by kkaniff » Aug 9th, '14, 08:56
1. MMLP, like Take Care, has a Metacritic score of 78, you can't really call that enormous critical success.
2. Take Care has lots of hit singles, cool, Recovery has 2 Diamond singles which are among the 100 (IIRC) best selling songs of all time.
3. I wouldn't contest your point that Kanye and Drake made being openly emotional acceptable in mainstream rap- even though I don't agree with it- because it is irrelevant to the point being discussed.
4. I'm sorry, what trend of artistic, grand scale production?
And as for artists making more personal, introspective albums? C'mon fam.
MBDTF was released the same year as Recovery IIRC, and you know which was more personal.
I obviously don't have to remind you of MMLP and TES which were released almost a decade earlier.
5. GKMC wasn't influenced by MBDTF, neither was Take Care, NWTS, MCHG or Channel Orange.
I was actually expecting you to say Fun.'s Some Nights (allegedly) and Adele's 21 (didn't influence it, she was just listening to it)
I haven't seen any interviews by these artists saying MBDTF influenced their works and I have listened to almost all the above records and I haven't heard anything.
5. I have no idea what MBDTF's featured artists have to do with anything.
6. If I want, I could argue that MBDTF isn't a classic, the same way I can argue that MMLP isn't.
That's the entire point I was making, the word "classic" is arbitrary as fuck, there aren't any actual indices, any actual group of strict requirements, that need to be met before an album is declared classic.
All it needs is enough people saying it is in a loud enough voice.
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