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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby Him Shadow » Aug 26th, '14, 18:11

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OutlawƎ wrote:I haven't read about this song on other websites but I can imagine the comments already .

"Omg this is so gay"
"Not afraid 2?!?!?!"
"Zomg Eminem only works with female cunts nowadays"
"Recovery sucks"
"Everything after Lose Yourself sucks"
"Just retire."

Believe me, even people from StudioLeaks liked it. :y:


that guy who were bitchin' about the title tho :facepalm2
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby RFC1872 » Aug 26th, '14, 18:11

mdemaz wrote:I honestly fail to see how this is a Not Afraid 2. I am curious is to why he got so personal on a track for a motherfuckin' movie. Is he depressed, more than usual these days? TMMLP2 didn't really sell much, but everyone loved it. You'd think he'd be really happy. He seemed really happy during The Monster Tour, unless it's just a front to cover up his chronic depression.

Dude is bi-polar as fuck.

I'm going to guess that this song was recorded around the same time as Beautiful Pain, they're both collaborations with the same artist that sound very similar in tonality etc. Em did say last year that he recorded a LOT of material that never made it onto MMLP2 because it didn't fit the theme, GOF is probably one of those songs. There might be a few more on Shady XV like that.
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby mdemaz » Aug 26th, '14, 18:14

RFC1872 wrote:
mdemaz wrote:I honestly fail to see how this is a Not Afraid 2. I am curious is to why he got so personal on a track for a motherfuckin' movie. Is he depressed, more than usual these days? TMMLP2 didn't really sell much, but everyone loved it. You'd think he'd be really happy. He seemed really happy during The Monster Tour, unless it's just a front to cover up his chronic depression.

Dude is bi-polar as fuck.

I'm going to guess that this song was recorded around the same time as Beautiful Pain, they're both collaborations with the same artist that sound very similar in tonality etc. Em did say last year that he recorded a LOT of material that never made it onto MMLP2 because it didn't fit the theme, GOF is probably one of those songs. There might be a few more on Shady XV like that.

Well, even so, you'd think he would of reviewed the song before putting it out, you know? Just because you record something ages ago doesn't mean you don't change the lyrics and re-record some parts.
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby RFC1872 » Aug 26th, '14, 18:18

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RFC1872 wrote:
mdemaz wrote:I honestly fail to see how this is a Not Afraid 2. I am curious is to why he got so personal on a track for a motherfuckin' movie. Is he depressed, more than usual these days? TMMLP2 didn't really sell much, but everyone loved it. You'd think he'd be really happy. He seemed really happy during The Monster Tour, unless it's just a front to cover up his chronic depression.

Dude is bi-polar as fuck.

I'm going to guess that this song was recorded around the same time as Beautiful Pain, they're both collaborations with the same artist that sound very similar in tonality etc. Em did say last year that he recorded a LOT of material that never made it onto MMLP2 because it didn't fit the theme, GOF is probably one of those songs. There might be a few more on Shady XV like that.


Well, even so, you'd think he would of reviewed the song before putting it out, you know? Just because you record something ages ago doesn't mean you don't change the lyrics and re-record some parts.


Maybe he didn't want to? It would've felt a bit weird on MMLP2 (although I suppose Beautiful Pain didn't really fit in on that album either but whatever). Maybe he's been planning Shady XV for a while and he just wants to release this song in some capacity. The second single will probably be a lot different, just like Survival was the first thing we heard last year only for Berzerk and Rap God to go in completely different directions.

I love this song TBH but it is a bit depressing after a few consecutive listens, but I really like his flow on this.
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby Him Shadow » Aug 26th, '14, 18:19

mdemaz wrote:I honestly fail to see how this is a Not Afraid 2.


me neither... I think he just try to say he's enjoy makin' serious tracks more right now and he doesn't want to force himself to make another goofy song
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby Blackquill » Aug 26th, '14, 18:20

OutlawƎ wrote:I haven't read about this song on other websites but I can imagine the comments already .

"Omg this is so gay"
"Not afraid 2?!?!?!"
"Zomg Eminem only works with female cunts nowadays"
"Recovery sucks"
"Everything after Lose Yourself sucks"
"Just retire."


I've linked it to someone who refused to listen to it outright because there's "some whore on it". He still hasn't.
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby mdemaz » Aug 26th, '14, 18:20

Good points.

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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby Mr Evil » Aug 26th, '14, 18:21

If this was on MMLP2, I'd rank it around #12
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby Mathers » Aug 26th, '14, 18:21

mdemaz wrote:I honestly fail to see how this is a Not Afraid 2. I am curious is to why he got so personal on a track for a motherfuckin' movie. Is he depressed, more than usual these days? TMMLP2 didn't really sell much, but everyone loved it.

No it got a better response than his last 3 from critics but from fans it was still very mixed, outside this forum I mean.
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby mdemaz » Aug 26th, '14, 18:22

Mathers wrote:
mdemaz wrote:I honestly fail to see how this is a Not Afraid 2. I am curious is to why he got so personal on a track for a motherfuckin' movie. Is he depressed, more than usual these days? TMMLP2 didn't really sell much, but everyone loved it.

No it got a better response than his last 3 from critics but from fans it was still very mixed, outside this forum I mean.

I see...
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby RFC1872 » Aug 26th, '14, 18:27

Mathers wrote:
mdemaz wrote:I honestly fail to see how this is a Not Afraid 2. I am curious is to why he got so personal on a track for a motherfuckin' movie. Is he depressed, more than usual these days? TMMLP2 didn't really sell much, but everyone loved it.

No it got a better response than his last 3 from critics but from fans it was still very mixed, outside this forum I mean.

It's a album really only his hardcore fans can appreciate, as we pick little things up (like all the first MMLP continuations and throwbacks) that the 'Recovery-era' fans wouldn't. I know a couple of girls who only became fans after Recovery who hated MMLP2 because they didn't understand why he shot a dog on Parking Lot and why the album ended with the sound of a gay pervert (Ken) shitting. :D MMLP2 was clearly made with his original fan base in mind, and I'll forever be grateful to Em for having the balls to make that album.
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby mdemaz » Aug 26th, '14, 18:34

I clearly don't know what I'm talking about, but I try to understand this shit.

The music business is really complex.
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby Dorian » Aug 26th, '14, 19:08

I think he didn't want to base his album sales/tour sales on nostalgia, because he's retreating.

This might be the reason GOF didn't make the album cut and was released a day after the last show of the tour. He finished promoting MMLP2 and now he's announcing that he's gone.
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby RFC1872 » Aug 26th, '14, 19:11

mdemaz wrote:I clearly don't know what I'm talking about, but I try to understand this shit.

The music business is really complex.

It certainly is complex.

Sales really don't matter much to Em in a financial sense as he really won't earn much money from his music nowadays. MMLP2 sold something like four million copies worldwide, the bulk of which will go to Interscope as they'll have spent millions on the marketing and then Aftermath will make some. Then there's the royalties that need to get paid to Rubin and all the other producers etc. Between the album and the singles Em probably made a few hundred grand, but it's hardly life altering money for a guy who's net worth is something like $160 million. He won't make much money at all from Shady Records nowadays either. Em will make most of his money from performing these days, as he takes home about $1.5-2million a show. He must've earned a lot years back from royalties when he sold something like 65 million albums between SSLP to Encore and then there was obviously 8 Mile, the 50 Cent money from his first two albums, plus he toured a lot from 1999-2005. The guy's set up for life now, the only people giving a shit about his album sales nowadays will be Interscope and Paul. The music business is fucked nowadays, and despite the fact he doesn't sell close to what he used to Em is still one of the most commercially successful artists around.
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Re: Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

Postby Mike_88 » Aug 26th, '14, 19:13

Dorian wrote:I think he didn't want to base his album sales/tour sales on nostalgia, because he's retreating.

This might be the reason GOF didn't make the album cut and was released a day after the last show of the tour. He finished promoting MMLP2 and now he's announcing that he's gone.


He's not gone. Stop it.
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