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Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Kali » Aug 27th, '14, 03:36

Do you guys remember The Warning? Do you remember Forever? Do you remember Drop The World?

These songs all feature vintage Eminem's return. Flow, content, and lyrics are all on point again. Following Relapse, Eminem in 2009 was back on top. He could have made an album on par with his first three. Hell, it could have been better than the three. These songs were all recorded in the wake of Relapse, and were genuinely great. No screaming, no stop and go, less terrible punchlines (still a few punchlines but they were pretty good).

I believe that when Relapse dropped to mediocre reviews, Eminem experienced rage he hadn't had since the late 90s. He was hungry again and had something to prove. He even tried pissing critics off. Relapse 1 and 2 were recorded in the same sessions. Refill, which had heavier accents, and cringier content was recorded in later sessions however. Why didn't Eminem record songs like The Warning, Forever, or Drop the World when he went into new sessions. He wanted to make it shittier. He knew the reactions critics had, and he used the things they hated more on Refill. He also wanted to prove he could still rape a mic, which is where The Warning, Forever, and his Drop the World verse came in.

After Refill, he got pressure from his label to change his voice, change his production, change anything Relapse related. He went poppy with Recovery based on this. When Love The Way You Lie blew up, Eminem was suddenly every teenage girls favorite rapper. That is when Eminem really started being widely accepted as having been the greatest. He rose to a higher level of fame. He wasn't hungry anymore, for the features following Recovery nor for MMLP2.

TL;DR: Eminem could have dropped a classic in December 2009, but deliberately chose not to.

P.S. If anyone knows of any dope freestyles released in 2009, post them below.
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby shadyblogger » Aug 27th, '14, 03:38

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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby mdemaz » Aug 27th, '14, 03:40

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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby James Deuce » Aug 27th, '14, 03:41

The Warning was actually not very good, sorry to burst your bubble.

The only reason people liked that song was because it was one of the first tracks Eminem put out since coming out of his deep depression era. People got excited about it because it made them feel like they were listening to the old Eminem, and not the mundane monotone Em; disregarding actual song quality and flow.
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Kali » Aug 27th, '14, 03:45

Menzo wrote:OH HEY! THIS THREAD!

Shoulda coulda woulda - didn't.


Read the post. Eminem deliberately didn't to piss critics off. This is my theory on how Eminem ruined his career.
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Kali » Aug 27th, '14, 03:46

James Deuce wrote:The Warning was actually not very good, sorry to burst your bubble.

The only reason people liked that song was because it was one of the first tracks Eminem put out since coming out of his deep depression era. People got excited about it because it made them feel like they were listening to the old Eminem, and not the mundane monotone Em; disregarding actual song quality and flow.


The Warning was and is great.
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Jaba » Aug 27th, '14, 03:46

Whats it matter? He came in 2013 with an amazing classic with verses miles ahead of those 2 songs... (The Warning can compete, that song is amazing, but the other 2...)
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Kali » Aug 27th, '14, 03:47

Menzo wrote:
James Deuce wrote:The Warning was actually not very good, sorry to burst your bubble.

The only reason people liked that song was because it was one of the first tracks Eminem put out since coming out of his deep depression era. People got excited about it because it made them feel like they were listening to the old Eminem, and not the mundane monotone Em; disregarding actual song quality and flow.


He was well out of his depression :unsure: not to mention top quality lyrics, flow, rhyme and everything else you could ask for from a diss song...


this pretty much
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Kali » Aug 27th, '14, 03:48

Jaba wrote:Whats it matter? He came in 2013 with an amazing classic with verses miles ahead of those 2 songs... (The Warning can compete, that song is amazing, but the other 2...)

Lol MMLP2 was not a classic, sorry to burst your bubble.
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Supershade » Aug 27th, '14, 03:49

:worship: The Warning
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby James Deuce » Aug 27th, '14, 03:50

Menzo wrote:
James Deuce wrote:The Warning was actually not very good, sorry to burst your bubble.

The only reason people liked that song was because it was one of the first tracks Eminem put out since coming out of his deep depression era. People got excited about it because it made them feel like they were listening to the old Eminem, and not the mundane monotone Em; disregarding actual song quality and flow.


He was well out of his depression :unsure: not to mention top quality lyrics, flow, rhyme and everything else you could ask for from a diss song...


I know he was out of his depression, I stated it was one of the first songs anyone ever heard since he chose to basically re-emerge in 2009.
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Jaba » Aug 27th, '14, 03:53

Kali wrote:
Jaba wrote:Whats it matter? He came in 2013 with an amazing classic with verses miles ahead of those 2 songs... (The Warning can compete, that song is amazing, but the other 2...)

Lol MMLP2 was not a classic, sorry to burst your bubble.

In my opinion it was. And in your opinion maybe not. :/
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Notalius » Aug 27th, '14, 03:54

OP, go back to ktt
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Chalky » Aug 27th, '14, 04:01

Yeah but he chose to ruin it by using accents, so...
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Re: Eminem could have created a classic in 2009

Postby Notalius » Aug 27th, '14, 04:04

Yeah, MMLP2 is def not a classic.

Neither is Relapse, not even a cult classic (whatever the fuck that is)
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