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Postby 604pn0i » Nov 7th, '06, 01:01

im catholic,,,

so 1st: fuck anyone who says fuck god or any of that shit, yur just fuckin jealous that you have nothing to look forward to when you die.

2nd: i dont care if you dont belive in a religion, but i do care when someone burns a holy book, and if you do keep that shit to yur self dont fuckin put it on the web.
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Postby beccababe2 » Nov 7th, '06, 01:27

604pn0i wrote:im catholic,,,

so 1st: fuck anyone who says fuck god or any of that shit, yur just fuckin jealous that you have nothing to look forward to when you die.

2nd: i dont care if you dont belive in a religion, but i do care when someone burns a holy book, and if you do keep that shit to yur self dont fuckin put it on the web.


i hate arguing and i just look at it this way (i'm a christian) if i'm wrong when i die i just rot and nothing happens but if they're wrong when they die they burn in the lake of fire for eternity...not saying that that's the only reason i believe in jesus because i have personal experiences and have strong convictions but that's just what i think of it as
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Postby 604pn0i » Nov 7th, '06, 01:31

beccababe2 wrote:
604pn0i wrote:im catholic,,,

so 1st: fuck anyone who says fuck god or any of that shit, yur just fuckin jealous that you have nothing to look forward to when you die.

2nd: i dont care if you dont belive in a religion, but i do care when someone burns a holy book, and if you do keep that shit to yur self dont fuckin put it on the web.


i hate arguing and i just look at it this way (i'm a christian) if i'm wrong when i die i just rot and nothing happens but if they're wrong when they die they burn in the lake of fire for eternity...not saying that that's the only reason i believe in jesus because i have personal experiences and have strong convictions but that's just what i think of it as


exactly :worship:
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 7th, '06, 01:37

Coccoa wrote:There hasnt been a single war about religion, and u talk to a certified historician.

The Crusades and the following moslem Jihads used the religious excuse as a way to attack and/or defend. The objective was to earn wealth in the Holy Lands. Both moslems and christians fought for gold, silk, weed, coffee and wine.

The Garland Wars between Aztecs, Toltecs and Mayans was about human slaves, not religion (altho many prisoners were sacrificed in the "legendary" Aztecan altars).

U still want more?


a religion is a belief about something all wars are based on belief's.
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 7th, '06, 02:00

ASP wrote:

Want to believe?


yea u don't want to believe theres a God just like I don't want to believe there isn't one

What is this, x-files? it either exists or it doesnt. Lets kill all the christian morons while they are "saved by god" so they can get to heaven right away.


right but u can't prove it dosen't exist just like I can't prove it does exist



religion was created to earn money of someones fear, to USE people and their fear to do something they wouldnt normaly do - kill.


well if thats wat u wanna believe go ahead and believe it but not all church's are like that. At least I know mine isn't cause' there's only 20 members and the Pastor had to take money out of his own pocket to pay some of the church bills. Half the people don't even put anything in the offering and the people that do only put in a doller and some just put in change. And I would know because I'm the Usher at the church and I collect the offering. I don't even get paid for my job because they can't afforad it. My Pastor and his wife live in a beat down appartment in Holyoke Massachusetts. And they drive a beat up truck. Even though my pastor has a job as a court officer he dosen't have money to spend because all the money he gets from his job he uses to take care of the church.

Burning a bible gives me satisfaction, and if i can get 100 people to do the same and be satisfied then ill achieve my goal.. Coz I believe that burning this harmfull nonsense book will solve problems.


Burning a book gives u satisfaction. Ok look u talk about the Bible harming people but yet u listen to Eminem who's music has actually influenced people to kill. That makes no sense if ur gonna burn the Bible then burn every Eminem CD and all the other people CD's, Magazines, Movies, T.V. Show's, etc.. that influence people to kill or commit suicide or rape some1 etc..


Religion = Daydreaming.
Atheism = Universal realist acception


right and again thats wat u believe but not everybody will believe the same as u.


U force Mythic characters on me, i force real life on u.

to u it's Mythic Characters because u haven't witnessed a merical where as to me I have so it's reality to me. But again it's ur belief and I'm not trying to force u to believe otherwise. I'm just stating my opinion as u have stated ur's



Atheism is not religion its a realistic approach to life without social acceptance of mythic bible characters


a religion is a belief and u believe there is no God.

U dont need to believe in the bible to believe in god, god does not need some dumbasses in 2000 bc writing stories about him.


nobody said u had to believe in the Bible to believe in God. There's alot of people who believe in God but not in the Bible. It's peoples choice to believe in the Bible.
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Postby beccababe2 » Nov 7th, '06, 02:13

EmptyPromises wrote:
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well if thats wat u wanna believe go ahead and believe it but not all church's are like that. At least I know mine isn't cause' there's only 20 members and the Pastor had to take money out of his own pocket to pay some of the church bills. Half the people don't even put anything in the offering and the people that do only put in a doller and some just put in change. And I would know because I'm the Usher at the church and I collect the offering. I don't even get paid for my job because they can't afforad it. My Pastor and his wife live in a beat down appartment in Holyoke Massachusetts. And they drive a beat up truck. Even though my pastor has a job as a court officer he dosen't have money to spend because all the money he gets from his job he uses to take care of the church.

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this is probably off the subject but that sounds exactly like me. my dad is the pastor and we have this hole in the wall church, and the people don't want to pay my dad...we practicly starving. we live in a small apartment in long beach and my dad has to pay everything when they know we don't have it, i had to say that.

all the other things you said i agree
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Postby HAYZI » Nov 7th, '06, 04:41

ASP wrote:




I belive in a persons personal belief, but people should keep beliefs to themselves.


then asp sed:

The bible is a buch of fables, some are even violent, u can either learn a lesson from them or u can be a moron and belive in fairy tales.


Fuck god, fuck his mother, and his baby jesus, im glad he "died for my sins"


Religion is WRONG



Religion - mindless worship, propoganda, books, forced views.



take your own advice and keep your own fuckin beliefs to yourself then you hypocritical nazi!
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 7th, '06, 05:52

HAYZI wrote:
ASP wrote:




I belive in a persons personal belief, but people should keep beliefs to themselves.


then asp sed:

The bible is a buch of fables, some are even violent, u can either learn a lesson from them or u can be a moron and belive in fairy tales.


Fuck god, fuck his mother, and his baby jesus, im glad he "died for my sins"


Religion is WRONG



Religion - mindless worship, propoganda, books, forced views.



take your own advice and keep your own fuckin beliefs to yourself then you hypocritical nazi!


No.

I state opinion, to me,all religion is wrong, jesus is a bitch.
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 7th, '06, 06:15

yea u don't want to believe theres a God just like I don't want to believe there isn't one


No, im just not a drone that believes in a religion that is passed on through generations as a Cultural difference. I dont have to "want" to believe god is real because.. god does not exist and u cant prove it. U want to believe because its something u cannot prove.


right but u can't prove it dosen't exist just like I can't prove it does exist

I dont have to prove something that doesnt exist to exist. If u believed in santa claus as a kid, i wouldve prolly never been able to prove its non-existance to you.


religion was created to earn money of someones fear, to USE people and their fear to do something they wouldnt normaly do - kill.


well if thats wat u wanna believe go ahead and believe it but not all church's are like that. At least I know mine isn't cause' there's only 20 members and the Pastor had to take money out of his own pocket to pay some of the church bills. Half the people don't even put anything in the offering and the people that do only put in a doller and some just put in change. And I would know because I'm the Usher at the church and I collect the offering. I don't even get paid for my job because they can't afforad it. My Pastor and his wife live in a beat down appartment in Holyoke Massachusetts. And they drive a beat up truck. Even though my pastor has a job as a court officer he dosen't have money to spend because all the money he gets from his job he uses to take care of the church.


What a waste of money church is. Your pastor Does believe in what he teaches no doubt, but when religions were formed they were created to win wars and to get money. Still, religion earns millions every year, be it christianity or some other nonsense.


Burning a book gives u satisfaction. Ok look u talk about the Bible harming people but yet u listen to Eminem who's music has actually influenced people to kill. That makes no sense if ur gonna burn the Bible then burn every Eminem CD and all the other people CD's, Magazines, Movies, T.V. Show's, etc.. that influence people to kill or commit suicide or rape some1 etc..


No magazines and books are something the LAW allows. The bible teaches its own law based on the humanly first laws and gives moral "redemption" to murderers

right and again thats wat u believe but not everybody will believe the same as u.


People also believed in gods that required sacrifice every time the sun rizes, they believe in allah and fucking seven headed gods. I do not believe have any religion, i believe in completely other things. People should believe and worry about well being of man, not about jesus and his bitch mother.


to u it's Mythic Characters because u haven't witnessed a merical where as to me I have so it's reality to me. But again it's ur belief and I'm not trying to force u to believe otherwise. I'm just stating my opinion as u have stated ur's

Miricles dont happen.. the further the time goes after the B.C. the less miracles there are and the more aliens, yeti, loh ness monsters emerge. It really doesnt matter what u believe.

a religion is a belief and u believe there is no God.

Religion -a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny; "he lost his faith but not his morality"

No, i DO NOT HAVE a religion. I have belief and opinion in more important things than god.

nobody said u had to believe in the Bible to believe in God. There's alot of people who believe in God but not in the Bible. It's peoples choice to believe in the Bible.


each bible in this world teaches, that their bible is the only and no faith in gods word will get u to hell. It is either u accept the bible as 100% right or 100% wrong. The more people learn the less people trust the bible.
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Postby Coccoa » Nov 7th, '06, 10:52

ASP wrote:
HAYZI wrote:
ASP wrote:




I belive in a persons personal belief, but people should keep beliefs to themselves.


then asp sed:

The bible is a buch of fables, some are even violent, u can either learn a lesson from them or u can be a moron and belive in fairy tales.


Fuck god, fuck his mother, and his baby jesus, im glad he "died for my sins"


Religion is WRONG



Religion - mindless worship, propoganda, books, forced views.



take your own advice and keep your own fuckin beliefs to yourself then you hypocritical nazi!


No.

I state opinion, to me,all religion is wrong, jesus is a bitch.


U dont state your opinion. You bitching. If i say that Comrade Brezniev was a bitch, so i state my opinion??
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 7th, '06, 13:19

ASP wrote: Miricles dont happen.. the further the time goes after the B.C. the less miracles there are and the more aliens, yeti, loh ness monsters emerge. It really doesnt matter what u believe.



Ok I saw miricals happen right in front of me. Hey ASP I know a profet u know some1 who tells the future and he said that in 2007 there would be a cure for AIDS I asked him how he knew and he said God told him so I'll tell u wat if it actually happens and there really is a cure for AIDS that's found in 2007 then that means theres a God so lets wait and see 2007 ain't that far away
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 7th, '06, 18:29

Coccoa wrote:
ASP wrote:
HAYZI wrote:
ASP wrote:




I belive in a persons personal belief, but people should keep beliefs to themselves.


then asp sed:

The bible is a buch of fables, some are even violent, u can either learn a lesson from them or u can be a moron and belive in fairy tales.


Fuck god, fuck his mother, and his baby jesus, im glad he "died for my sins"


Religion is WRONG



Religion - mindless worship, propoganda, books, forced views.



take your own advice and keep your own fuckin beliefs to yourself then you hypocritical nazi!


No.

I state opinion, to me,all religion is wrong, jesus is a bitch.


U dont state your opinion. You bitching. If i say that Comrade Brezniev was a bitch, so i state my opinion??


Comrade breznev.. WAS a bitch.

When i confront reliegion im ready to back up my opinion and debate. So it goes for any political leader that i hate ... eg Bush.
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 7th, '06, 18:35

danigantt wrote:on the miracle tip,



i saw someone about to get kicked out of their home, go to church with me and pray about it, and now they got a better house than mine... and a new car....



when u get kicked out of ur home u go to find work. Church gave a the person motivation. In a normal society a person should be morally capable of reconstructing his life. Ive seen people come up from nothing .. e.g my father, straight up from the gutters of russian siberia.


Ok I saw miricals happen right in front of me. Hey ASP I know a profet u know some1 who tells the future and he said that in 2007 there would be a cure for AIDS I asked him how he knew and he said God told him so I'll tell u wat if it actually happens and there really is a cure for AIDS that's found in 2007 then that means theres a God so lets wait and see 2007 ain't that far away


That is not even a prediction, its a straight up guess. As soon as stem cell researches (that christians dont wnat to happen) will progress and nano technology that has been a promise since its discovery are implemented who knows what kind of cures could be found.

these miracles u speak of are no more truth than alien abductions and sexual encounters with Bigfoot.
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Postby Coccoa » Nov 7th, '06, 23:02

ASP wrote:
Coccoa wrote:
ASP wrote:
HAYZI wrote:
ASP wrote:




I belive in a persons personal belief, but people should keep beliefs to themselves.


then asp sed:

The bible is a buch of fables, some are even violent, u can either learn a lesson from them or u can be a moron and belive in fairy tales.


Fuck god, fuck his mother, and his baby jesus, im glad he "died for my sins"


Religion is WRONG



Religion - mindless worship, propoganda, books, forced views.



take your own advice and keep your own fuckin beliefs to yourself then you hypocritical nazi!


No.

I state opinion, to me,all religion is wrong, jesus is a bitch.


U dont state your opinion. You bitching. If i say that Comrade Brezniev was a bitch, so i state my opinion??


Comrade breznev.. WAS a bitch.

When i confront reliegion im ready to back up my opinion and debate. So it goes for any political leader that i hate ... eg Bush.


That aint going like that.
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 8th, '06, 07:08

danigantt wrote:
once again, you just spoke on a situation you didn't understand. you didn't know if the person was unable to work... you didn't know, but you made your own assumptions.


same thing with christianity and how people use the bible. you just assume everyone uses the bible for evil, and therefore that justifies it being burned.


I could really care less about the condition of the miracle. Ive seen a 50 year old man cry and tell a story bout how he got a letter from god. Each religion has people claiming to witness and experience a miracle, because people see what they want to see. 3000 years ago, egyptians wanted to see men with heads of animals so they did, even further back in time the greeks wanted to see a hercules... they saw what they believed in. Theres a study called "metaphysics", i highly recommend reading some.


And i know enough about christianity, to not like it. The bible is used to brainwash, thus creating side effects. Millions of people already died from these books. When the old testament was written, people commited genocide for god... And ive explained enough times, about how people de-value their lives.
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