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Truth about stalin.

Postby AspirinE » Nov 24th, '06, 12:11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhKkZN1Ykns

found this video link on rapbasement, i think its great abstract view. Im sick and tired of the biased bullshit written in books these days.
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Postby yoshi » Nov 24th, '06, 18:56

^ i've learned 2 only. one from my book, second one from Asp and my dad. these 2 should establish a Stalin Fan Club :confusion:
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Postby Curious » Nov 26th, '06, 11:54

yoshi wrote:these 2 should establish a Stalin Fan Club :confusion:


lol a fan club with only 2 members :p

the truth is whatever you want the truth to be ;)
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 26th, '06, 12:24

Curious wrote:
yoshi wrote:these 2 should establish a Stalin Fan Club :confusion:


lol a fan club with only 2 members :p

the truth is whatever you want the truth to be ;)


The truth is truth, the truth is the solid facts that make the the shit told by western dickriders a myth.


people are quick to hate on something they don't understand.
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Postby Curious » Nov 26th, '06, 13:45

no the truth is subjective, facts can be twisted and interpreted the way you want to interpret them - history depends on who wrote it, the Russians present it one way, the West presents it another way, and the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle but you always have to be critical towards whatever a government says because they always have a particular agenda

i'm not gonna get into another argument with u about Stalin, we've already been down that road countless times... ;)
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 26th, '06, 13:51

Curious wrote:no the truth is subjective, facts can be twisted and interpreted the way you want to interpret them - history depends on who wrote it, the Russians present it one way, the West presents it another way, and the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle but you always have to be critical towards whatever a government says because they always have a particular agenda

i'm not gonna get into another argument with u about Stalin, we've already been down that road countless times... ;)



yes and in most cases u've used myths for arguments.
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Postby Curious » Nov 26th, '06, 14:04

ASP wrote:yes and in most cases u've used myths for arguments.


n u've used russian myths so the score is even - try all u want, but ur not tricking me into discussing this with u again :p
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 26th, '06, 14:11

Curious wrote:
ASP wrote:yes and in most cases u've used myths for arguments.


n u've used russian myths so the score is even - try all u want, but ur not tricking me into discussing this with u again :p



What myths? Most people on this board or on the board dont even know the story behind stalin and chrustiev.
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Postby Curious » Nov 26th, '06, 14:13

ASP wrote:
Curious wrote:
ASP wrote:yes and in most cases u've used myths for arguments.


n u've used russian myths so the score is even - try all u want, but ur not tricking me into discussing this with u again :p



What myths? Most people on this board or on the board dont even know the story behind stalin and chrustiev.


the story? they don't even know the names *sighs* ;)
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 26th, '06, 14:15

Curious wrote:
ASP wrote:
Curious wrote:
ASP wrote:yes and in most cases u've used myths for arguments.


n u've used russian myths so the score is even - try all u want, but ur not tricking me into discussing this with u again :p



What myths? Most people on this board or on the board dont even know the story behind stalin and chrustiev.


the story? they don't even know the names *sighs* ;)


westernized poor education is to blame for that.
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Postby Curious » Nov 26th, '06, 14:18

ASP wrote:westernized poor education is to blame for that.


ur stereotyping, in my country kids do learn about it in school - as for certain other countries, that's a different story
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 26th, '06, 14:20

Curious wrote:
ASP wrote:westernized poor education is to blame for that.


ur stereotyping, in my country kids do learn about it in school - as for certain other countries, that's a different story



Europe's education level still has a long way to go to soviet levels.
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Postby Curious » Nov 26th, '06, 14:26

ASP wrote:Europe's education level still has a long way to go to soviet levels.


myth, not fact - i highly doubt you know the education level in all European countries, in fact i highly doubt you know much about, let's say, Scandinavian politics and history, whereas Scandinavians learn about Russian politics and history
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 26th, '06, 14:35

Curious wrote:
ASP wrote:Europe's education level still has a long way to go to soviet levels.


myth, not fact - i highly doubt you know the education level in all European countries, in fact i highly doubt you know much about, let's say, Scandinavian politics and history, whereas Scandinavians learn about Russian politics and history


russian politics and history are important thats why.

I went from MODERN day russian education to english and it was exactly 2 classes back, i even finished school at 16.

And soviet education was the dominant at its time, whith the discovery of internet etc... it would be even more effective in the 21st century.

The amount of books people were required to read and the usefull strictness in schools that kept our youth moral ... is legendary.
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Postby Curious » Nov 26th, '06, 14:45

ASP wrote:russian politics and history are important thats why.

I went from MODERN day russian education to english and it was exactly 2 classes back, i even finished school at 16.

And soviet education was the dominant at its time, whith the discovery of internet etc... it would be even more effective in the 21st century.

The amount of books people were required to read and the usefull strictness in schools that kept our youth moral ... is legendary.


all countries' politics and history are important, world history and politics are important, no country is an island - my argument is that Danish kids receive a broad globally oriented education which is very valuable - without someone literally beating knowledge into them. i'm not saying soviet education isn't good, although i thoroughly disagree with the teaching methods used, i think a lot of russians (not all) are very well educated, but you can't just stereotype and say that all Westerners are poorly educated compared to russians when you don't know the education level in all Western countries
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