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Race/Religous culture affecting other Cultures ?

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Race/Religous culture affecting other Cultures ?

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 6th, '07, 21:42

The Debate so far ( some posts will be repeated in quote ill post it as it happened )

sinemm wrote:
$0 R3@L wrote:worlds slowly slippin into chaos.....i mean schools over england are gonna have to lern 'islam' as a lesson soon!!!!!!

there coming to our country they should learn english!!!! not us learn there lanuage!!!!

:angry:


i dont understand whats so annoying bout it.we here in the religion lessons learn sth bout other religions too thats no bad..thats even good..we learn more stuff..it makes you have an idea of sth more..thats not bad..plus be more respectful plz..

there coming to our country they should learn english!!!! not us learn there lanuage!!!!

ur bein rude.. :(
plus you think ppl only go to england or somewhere like that? ok then lets learn jus english no spanish no german no french? thats not right either..
alot of tourists comin to islam countries too..thats not bout it..!




Bar wrote:
sinemm wrote:
$0 R3@L wrote:worlds slowly slippin into chaos.....i mean schools over england are gonna have to lern 'islam' as a lesson soon!!!!!!

there coming to our country they should learn english!!!! not us learn there lanuage!!!!

:angry:


i dont understand whats so annoying bout it.we here in the religion lessons learn sth bout other religions too thats no bad..thats even good..we learn more stuff..it makes you have an idea of sth more..thats not bad..plus be more respectful plz..

there coming to our country they should learn english!!!! not us learn there lanuage!!!!

ur bein rude.. :(
plus you think ppl only go to england or somewhere like that? ok then lets learn jus english no spanish no german no french? thats not right either..
alot of tourists comin to islam countries too..thats not bout it..!


i think so real is more on the point that, this religion bombed our country because there god sayed so, then we have to learn there language to make there religions life here eiser, its not the race hes annoyed about, :sweating: well i think anywae :sweating:



sinemm wrote:lol talk bout the old wars n stuff?

in years everything changes..in history many years many ages ago some countries were enemies but friendly now or the opposite.but talkin bout it n tryin to get its revenge isnt wise at all..i mean i can tell alot of things like that too but theres no use doin this..talkin bout the wars or sth..

ppl say we need peace in the world..but they dont act like that i guess..

i think people need eachother..peace is what we need..nothing more..



Clarky wrote:@ Sinemn

Fuck Muslims.

England would be better if there were none at all. Simple as.



C-Game wrote:
Clarky wrote:@ Sinemn

Fuck Muslims.

England would be better if there were none at all. Simple as.


dude if u hv a problem with muslims i dont mind..
and trust me thr are some muslims in dis board who are really kool ...
and they dont deserve ur swearin at them...
so dont take everyone as a SET just because some terrorists fucks up da system...



sinemm wrote:i guess people think all the bad or stupid ppl are just muslims smh

there are millions of terrible people on the earth from all the religions..killing people..making wars..but over some irresponsible people we dont blame the whole countries or religions or people..that would be just so stupid!

im not gonna say anything more!!



$0 R3@L wrote:
i dont understand whats so annoying bout it.we here in the religion lessons learn sth bout other religions too thats no bad..thats even good..we learn more stuff..it makes you have an idea of sth more..thats not bad..plus be more respectful plz..


sort it out gurl im not mad at any race im mad at a religion...total difference.

why should i learn there religion.This country is NOT a muslim state.Is it not enough we let them practice there religion without persecution,we give them jobs,we give them freedom of speech,we give them our welfare...now they are sayin muslimes are 'being treated like jews in ww2' to quote a local muslim preacher from birmingham.

Its freakin pathetic and before long there is gonna be a civial war over religion.



sinemm wrote:ok there r muslims live in england
but there are english ppl live here too..

then wut shud we treat them like you do?

they live here we let them..give them jobs n etc etc

but lets treat them like that or their religion


is that wise?




Sophie wrote:
sinemm wrote:
$0 R3@L wrote:worlds slowly slippin into chaos.....i mean schools over england are gonna have to lern 'islam' as a lesson soon!!!!!!

there coming to our country they should learn english!!!! not us learn there lanuage!!!!

:angry:


i dont understand whats so annoying bout it.we here in the religion lessons learn sth bout other religions too thats no bad..thats even good..we learn more stuff..it makes you have an idea of sth more..thats not bad..plus be more respectful plz..




wow..u learn about other religions?

in R.E all we learn about is Christians :unsure:


if you think about it...all the wars have been due to religion

The only reason that we got so many immigrants & stuff in england [im not sayin all muslims are immigrants, or that theyre the only religion here] is cos our countries the only one that lets them in..&, they're the only people that take the jobs that nobody else wants.

it's kinda..idk..i know what i wanna say i just..Idk how to put it. :unsure:



$0 R3@L wrote:
sinemm wrote:[color=violet][b]ok there r muslims live in england
but there are english ppl live here too..

then wut shud we treat them like you do?

they live here we let them..give them jobs n etc etc

but lets treat them like that or their religion


is that wise?


if english people live there its due to choise,many muslims come here to avoide persecuation.

i got no beef wit them coming to avoide pre-historic regimes in many middle east countries is just wen they start tryin to change our laws and en-danger our way of life i got a problem.We aint exactly coming to any countries and enforcing our religion on people are we?.

Now muslims are killing us for there 'religion' and sayin they want sherea law to be in-place in our country.

Its one thing to live in a country its another to think you control it.



sinemm wrote:
$0 R3@L wrote:
sinemm wrote:ok there r muslims live in england
but there are english ppl live here too..

then wut shud we treat them like you do?

they live here we let them..give them jobs n etc etc

but lets treat them like that or their religion


is that wise?


if english people live there its due to choise,many muslims come here to avoide persecuation.

i got no beef wit them coming to avoide pre-historic regimes in many middle east countries is just wen they start tryin to change our laws and en-danger our way of life i got a problem.We aint exactly coming to any countries and enforcing our religion on people are we?.

Now muslims are killing us for there 'religion' and sayin they want sherea law to be in-place in our country.

Its one thing to live in a country its another to think you control it.


i get you..if i was you in the same situation id think the same thing maybe..

they jus u know the black sheep of the family smh..wut they do is jus polluting the religion's name..nothing more..i dont like this kinda ppl too..

but wut i try to mean its too mean to consider all muslims like those stupid ones..



$0 R3@L wrote:i hear u,i got tons of muslim friends so i know all muslim people are not bad people.Many have brought alot of good to our country.

However the once 'few' are now becoming the 'majority',meaning the views of these totally wrong muslims are infectin the mosques and places of worship and now more and more people are thinknig the same way.

As our goverment have no balls they cant do nuttin about it especially with each and every muslim shouting 'racists and nazis'every time that it is mentioned.

Like i said a few posts back its all gonna boil up into a religious civial war in areas like my hometown ,birmingham.We had something similar happen hear just last year but that was more a race war between the indian community and black,so everyone is already on edge.



shads03 wrote:i didnt want to get into this topic, because it annoys me, but, in a way im with Clarky.

Sinemm wrote:ok there r muslims live in england
but there are english ppl live here too..

then wut shud we treat them like you do?

they live here we let them..give them jobs n etc etc

but lets treat them like that or their religion


is that wise?


people arnt just living hear though, muslims and that are changing the way we have to live out lives.

muslims, and other races have come over to our country and really fucked things up, i mean were not allowed to call christmas lights as it offends muslims......we have to call the Season lights. - FUCK THIS, THERE CALLED CHRIMAST LIGHTS AND CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS

we have had to abboned the Nativity Play. that our young kids/sisters/brothers would participate in around christmas about jesus and everything, which they did every year! for ages, but we have had to abolish that because it offends "muslims". -last year my sister had to do a play about pirates instead. - FUCK THIS THE NATIVITY PLAY WAS SOMEHTHING THE KIDS ENJOYED DOING AND WAS PART OF A CULTER/RELIGEON.

i read in the paper the other day, a mualim worker was taking a company to court because it had pictures of the pig out of Winne The Pooh on there wall, and they deemed that as offensive. ITS A FUCKING CHILDS CARTOON!

i believe its mainly muslims, but there are other races that have been coming into the country and changing the way we have to look at things.

believe me when i say this, if wedid half the stuff people have done in your home country we would get our hands chopped off.

i mean when i was at school, we had a subject called R.E (Religeous Education) were we learnt about ALL the different religeons and beliefs. And then we had a subject called Languages. were we learn French Or Spanish. now islam and/or japanese are gonna become compuslory.

now in the goverment we got over paranoid white people changing our country, to suit other religeons, coz god forbid we upset people who have ther country for ours. - its fucking crazy

now im no racist, i have muslims friends and many othe friends.

for example theres these group of kosivans who live and work round the corner from my house, who have fled there country and come to ours for a better life. but what they have done, is they started there own car wash business, they are there EVERYDAY working from 6-10 washing cars earning money, and believe me they get alot of customers. they work hard for it, but they have adjusted to our country, and making a better life for them selves.

but people who come over here, start spongeing money off all us, changing our belifs and shit. making us live how they want the country to be run. its just not fucking on.

this thing fucking bothers me big time, hear it on the news, and in the papers. its getting fucking ridiculous. its not all of them, its the majority of them!

bah, ive had my say, and Clarky..... :king:

im out.



sinemm wrote:thats not cool i know..i told ya..those jus polluting our names too..
not gonna say anythng else cuz this topic keep improvin turned into a religion thread..me as a person always been hated talkin bout religions or beliefs..i dont feel comfortable when we talk bout it now..i jus wanted to say that..i agree wit u in some matters but you know thats my religion too im muslim too thats not exceptable to me..im bein offended..you know..i see some of you explain wit your reasons..not like clarky..that wut got me down..it was rude..

anyway..wish people were more responsible n cared bout it more..wish everybody lived in peace and respect...

hope everything turns into a different and a better way..as i said before every1s gonna die some day..theres no usin hurtin or harmin eachother..peace is all we need..



Bar wrote:
sinemm wrote:thats not cool i know..i told ya..those jus polluting our names too..
not gonna say anythng else cuz this topic keep improvin turned into a religion thread..me as a person always been hated talkin bout religions or beliefs..i dont feel comfortable when we talk bout it now..i jus wanted to say that..i agree wit u in some matters but you know thats my religion too im muslim too thats not exceptable to me..im bein offended..you know..i see some of you explain wit your reasons..not like clarky..that wut got me down..it was rude..

anyway..wish people were more responsible n cared bout it more..wish everybody lived in peace and respect...

hope everything turns into a different and a better way..as i said before every1s gonna die some day..theres no usin hurtin or harmin eachother..peace is all we need..


i agree with shads03 n everything he sayed, i remember doing the nativity play in school and i loved it and i remember my gran coming watching me she loved it now somehting that was a strong tradition in all uk schools has stopped fo rpeople we are helping

and sinemm no one here thinks its all muslims or religiouns we know it isnt but its a dam lot of them, there beileiving a religoun that tells them to go kill inocent chirldren mothers broters fathers son...neeed i say more :zipped:


Killa wrote:
Clarky wrote:@ Sinemn

Fuck Muslims.

England would be better if there were none at all. Simple as.


dude try to actually get points across instead of saying FUCK this FUCK that aint the best way to go seen as its kinda against forum rules considerng that comes off racist.

but i agree to a extent... i dont mind ppl living here from over countrys but its as real and shads03 are saying,when your country is having to change because of it it def has gone to far. its like the changes shads03 stated makes the country laughable really. do you know arsenal have banned fans bringing in england flags because it offends ppl :sweating: wtf.



$0 R3@L wrote:a muslim school teacher sued the school because she refused to take of her vail infront of male children and school workers.yet the same women attended her interview for the job with her vail of and infront of a male interviewer....so why she happy to do it then and not now?

ill tell u why because they enjoy annoyin other communitys.Its almost became a fashion in the muslim community here to have a 'beef' with fellow religions

-_-


ASP wrote:Thats exactly why religion and politics should not under any circumstances be interlaced. Those who want to induce their belief into an economical system are not only ignorant, but deserve to be treated as criminals. Systems with no religion idolized have proven to have less discrimination and lowered crime rates. If religion is firmly detested by a social standard, we might finally start living like a smart civilization.

As for racism being labeled on those who detest religion, thats just plain dumb. Religion has nothing to do with race. Better yet if you're not racist yourself you'll see people as class... not ethnicity or a belief.

I feel sorry for England being taken over by this criminal agenda, I hope somebody will someday do something about it. get rid of that mind polluting shit for good. Would be great if such a great person would get rid of the other radical religious trash... Judaism, Christianity... etc. Shit has been nothing but trouble.


Sophie wrote:
ASP wrote:Thats exactly why religion and politics should not under any circumstances be interlaced. Those who want to induce their belief into an economical system are not only ignorant, but deserve to be treated as criminals. Systems with no religion idolized have proven to have less discrimination and lowered crime rates. If religion is firmly detested by a social standard, we might finally start living like a smart civilization.


This is why I think that most wars, actually probably all of them in some way, have been based on religion, due to the fact that if a person is a certain religion, another religion doesn't like the way that different religion does things. It's kinda stupid.



Sarah wrote:Ok I got sick of reading all these long posts :laughing:



But I'm on sinemms side on this...



I don't like when people put hate on everyone in a religion or even race just because of a few people doing bad shit. I hate when people think that all muslims are terrorists :shakehead:



Bar wrote:
Sarah wrote:Ok I got sick of reading all these long posts :laughing:



But I'm on sinemms side on this...



I don't like when people put hate on everyone in a religion or even race just because of a few people doing bad shit. I hate when people think that all muslims are terrorists :shakehead:


you should have read all sarah lol we arent saying all we are saying that there are soo many that it changing the we live our lifes snd stoped us being able to do stuff with our kids ( once we have them ) that our parents did with us like nativity plays ect

we accept them to our country buy from there shops but as soon as they get naything they can milk money from they do, not all but ALOT it used to be the miority but seriously now thy see what they can get its the majority, and they blame it on racism but it usually isnt its like this guy dd this i hate him not because hes black white yellow red indian chinease coz he did that

this should get started up in serious debate btw infact i will :8)




so thats so far

i wanne add a question sorta thingy :sweating:

if anyone watched big brother this year ( a uk show ) youll knowof the person in it who was lcaiming racial bullying if you watched it you would know it wasnt racism it was hatred fo a person not her colour or religon her as a person, now i say if that same argument thing had happened bewtween to blacks or 2 whites 2 asians arabs anything of the same race it would have just been another argument but coz it was 2 different races it was a big deal, now you tell me, dont you think the people who bring ot the fact that its 2 different races arguin and not 2 different people, do you beileive they are the actual racists ?

and i was bringing that up coz thats what happens in the uk, coz we say we dont wanne learn arab its like thats coz its another races laungage we are like no it isnt its coz we shouldnt have to learn it...sorta

anywe continue deabte discussion :8)
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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 6th, '07, 21:59

firstly,for the dumb nuts amongst us:

religion doesnt = race

if your gonna post an opinon concerning the posts above read all the above, half reading it will make you read outta context.

on the bb thing.I think they was total wrong to do it,and frankly any accuse to see jade loose her 'fame' i would have taken.I think shes a disgrace to u.k and to people like myself who dont have alot of cash.She got a lil fame from big bro and totally thought she was ahead of us all.

however i do think they overdone the racists card and just gave muslims etc etc to tell us all how the feel victimalised :whistle:
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 6th, '07, 22:04

$0 R3@L wrote:firstly,for the dumb nuts amongst us:

religion doesnt = race

if your gonna post an opinon concerning the posts above read all the above, half reading it will make you read outta context.

on the bb thing.I think they was total wrong to do it,and frankly any accuse to see jade loose her 'fame' i would have taken.I think shes a disgrace to u.k and to people like myself who dont have alot of cash.She got a lil fame from big bro and totally thought she was ahead of us all.

however i do think they overdone the racists card and just gave muslims etc etc to tell us all how the feel victimalised :whistle:


maybe but did you check that i forget her name the one that suposedly got bullied after it SMH

one magazine - i forgive jade i, she isnt racists, i forgive her"

next magazine - bullied in big bro house, " ill never talk to jade again"

seriously 4 magazines all different views form her, i agree i dont like jade shed a bitch but the way they went on about this when if you think back when a black guy was about to punch fuck out a white girl and the police got involved and nothing happened no big stories, coz they were both form UK, but coz the girl was form india the whole country was getting accused as been racists :confusion:
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Postby Sophie » Feb 6th, '07, 22:06

the whole BB thing..was kinda stupid..it was so big we even did something in English about it...it's like someone said in the house once, it's good to know that the government & the world outside don't have anything important to worry about...which I kinda agree with..that shouldn't have been headline news..they weren't being racist..shilpa even said that herself.. but they were jus bein the usual bitches they were, although people are overreacting a bit - Jo can't even go home cos shes gettin death threats from what she said in the house - she's blaming BB & wants it shut down, but it's not their fault - shes the one that said all that stuff.
I think the reason they overdone it cos of the fact that she was Indian, and had a different culture to them - if she was white, it wouldn't have been made a big deal of..


Yeah, no one's saying that all muslims are terroists, or anything like that - but what with all that you see on the news - like the london bombings, 9/11 & all that, they're not painting a good picture of themselves, or, the government/police aren't painting a good picture for them, cos all of the people that they've arrested are from a different culture other then white.


& i've forgotten what else I was gonna say.. :unsure: i'll come back. if i remember :sweating:
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 6th, '07, 22:09

Sophie wrote:the whole BB thing..was kinda stupid..it was so big we even did something in English about it...it's like someone said in the house once, it's good to know that the government & the world outside don't have anything important to worry about...which I kinda agree with..that shouldn't have been headline news..they weren't being racist..shilpa even said herself..they were jus bein bitches :sweating:
I think they overdone it cos of the fact that she was Indian, and had a different culture to them - if she was white, it wouldn't have been made a big deal of..


Yeah, no one's saying that not all muslims are terroists, or anything like that - but what with all that you see on the news - like the london bombings, 9/11 & all that, they're not painting a good picture of themselves, or, the government/police aren't painting a good picture for them, cos all of the people that they've arrested are from a different culture other then white.


& i've forgotten what else I was gonna say.. :unsure: i'll come back. if i remember :sweating:


yeh the bombings piss me off, i seriously think it should be like,

if you follow the religon were god tell you to bomb innocent people, you should get put in jail, really its harsh but your fllowing a religion thats telling you to kill innocent people, your a murderer in the waiting
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 6th, '07, 22:11

danigantt wrote:college has made hard and cold. it made me realize that the 1960s Civil Rights Movement didn't achieve the true equality that is written in the history books.

We made some gains, but I've come to realize that I'm living in a breathing racist society.

It's depressing to think about, especially when I'm reminded of it every damn day.





I was initially pissed that I had to learn Spanish. I felt like Americans made Africans learn English and stripped them of all of their African culture. Why haven't they done the same to the Hispanics? Now, however, I am happy for the Hispanics that have come to America. They are getting to keep some of their culture, and I get to learn about a new culture. :happy:


I want to fight for all who are being treated unjustly.


hey i feel ya, the english took away all scottish cultures when it comes to language, if you check we(as in scotland) should be talking galec
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Postby Sophie » Feb 6th, '07, 22:11

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Sophie wrote:the whole BB thing..was kinda stupid..it was so big we even did something in English about it...it's like someone said in the house once, it's good to know that the government & the world outside don't have anything important to worry about...which I kinda agree with..that shouldn't have been headline news..they weren't being racist..shilpa even said herself..they were jus bein bitches :sweating:
I think they overdone it cos of the fact that she was Indian, and had a different culture to them - if she was white, it wouldn't have been made a big deal of..


Yeah, no one's saying that not all muslims are terroists, or anything like that - but what with all that you see on the news - like the london bombings, 9/11 & all that, they're not painting a good picture of themselves, or, the government/police aren't painting a good picture for them, cos all of the people that they've arrested are from a different culture other then white.


& i've forgotten what else I was gonna say.. :unsure: i'll come back. if i remember :sweating:


yeh the bombings piss me off, i seriously think it should be like,

if you follow the religon were god tell you to bomb innocent people, you should get put in jail, really its harsh but your fllowing a religion thats telling you to kill innocent people, your a murderer in the waiting



Exactly...well, technically, being put in jail isn't harsh if you're gonna bomb innocent people. We have a working dog, who sniffs bombs & that - My dad had to go the places in London where they were bombed, with my dog, with all the bodies & stuff - it's not nice for people to see. The terroists are selfish, as well as..well..kinda pathetic.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 6th, '07, 22:15

Sophie wrote:
Bar wrote:
Sophie wrote:the whole BB thing..was kinda stupid..it was so big we even did something in English about it...it's like someone said in the house once, it's good to know that the government & the world outside don't have anything important to worry about...which I kinda agree with..that shouldn't have been headline news..they weren't being racist..shilpa even said herself..they were jus bein bitches :sweating:
I think they overdone it cos of the fact that she was Indian, and had a different culture to them - if she was white, it wouldn't have been made a big deal of..


Yeah, no one's saying that not all muslims are terroists, or anything like that - but what with all that you see on the news - like the london bombings, 9/11 & all that, they're not painting a good picture of themselves, or, the government/police aren't painting a good picture for them, cos all of the people that they've arrested are from a different culture other then white.


& i've forgotten what else I was gonna say.. :unsure: i'll come back. if i remember :sweating:


yeh the bombings piss me off, i seriously think it should be like,

if you follow the religon were god tell you to bomb innocent people, you should get put in jail, really its harsh but your fllowing a religion thats telling you to kill innocent people, your a murderer in the waiting



Exactly...well, technically, being put in jail isn't harsh if you're gonna bomb innocent people. We have a working dog, who sniffs bombs & that - My dad had to go the places in London where they were bombed, with my dog, with all the bodies & stuff - it's not nice for people to see. The terroists are selfish, as well as..well..kinda pathetic.


yeh selfish in all sense, they usually kill thereselves hundreds of other people, any age colour or religion , they then leave there famalies with nothing, and they dont care coz there "at one with there god"

dam i watched united 93 and i know its probly bias but it had it were the hijackers were praying to god while the planewas tumbling down to cras....sickens me
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Postby Sophie » Feb 6th, '07, 22:18

Bar wrote:
Sophie wrote:
Bar wrote:
Sophie wrote:the whole BB thing..was kinda stupid..it was so big we even did something in English about it...it's like someone said in the house once, it's good to know that the government & the world outside don't have anything important to worry about...which I kinda agree with..that shouldn't have been headline news..they weren't being racist..shilpa even said herself..they were jus bein bitches :sweating:
I think they overdone it cos of the fact that she was Indian, and had a different culture to them - if she was white, it wouldn't have been made a big deal of..


Yeah, no one's saying that not all muslims are terroists, or anything like that - but what with all that you see on the news - like the london bombings, 9/11 & all that, they're not painting a good picture of themselves, or, the government/police aren't painting a good picture for them, cos all of the people that they've arrested are from a different culture other then white.


& i've forgotten what else I was gonna say.. :unsure: i'll come back. if i remember :sweating:


yeh the bombings piss me off, i seriously think it should be like,

if you follow the religon were god tell you to bomb innocent people, you should get put in jail, really its harsh but your fllowing a religion thats telling you to kill innocent people, your a murderer in the waiting



Exactly...well, technically, being put in jail isn't harsh if you're gonna bomb innocent people. We have a working dog, who sniffs bombs & that - My dad had to go the places in London where they were bombed, with my dog, with all the bodies & stuff - it's not nice for people to see. The terroists are selfish, as well as..well..kinda pathetic.


yeh selfish in all sense, they usually kill thereselves hundreds of other people, any age colour or religion , they then leave there famalies with nothing, and they dont care coz there "at one with there god"

dam i watched united 93 and i know its probly bias but it had it were the hijackers were praying to god while the planewas tumbling down to cras....sickens me



Damn..I thought it was the same in all religions, 'Thou shall not kill,' it's kinda common sense if it's not...they have no reason to kill, i'm sorry to say it like this & stuff..but i'm not a religious person you know so yeah, but, I'm sure 'God' would like them better if they didn't kill but did good in their life - I don't get their reasons to kill innocent families, just because of them - I just don't get the point. Sure, kill themselves if they want to - but why hundreds of innocent people - I don't get it.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 6th, '07, 22:25

^ same i aint religous at all when we die i beileive there is a sort of karma pressence and we get judged for our deeds, but not the deeds but why we did the deeds, like shooting a robber to save a shopkeeper = good deed ( to my way off thinking), but if the robber was robbin coz he couldnt feed his kids he doesnt = bad ( in my way of thinking ) yes i have a fucked mentalilty, but religion is somehting proved fake by how many they are, so basically these guys are killing for no reason >_> it annoys me
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Postby Sophie » Feb 6th, '07, 22:30

^ exactly it annoys me too, & yeah i think like that too..yeah I believe in Karma big time - it just makes complete sense too me - religion has been around for hundreds of thousands of years - but people don't know if what they're following is true, or right or wrong, cos people weren't here hundreds of thousands of years ago - they've just got what was passed down to them, & books - which could be true/could not - can't really be proved with religion.
& in no religion does it say - 'kill innocent people with bombs', i'm sorry, it jus can't say that, sure i haven't read every freakin book to do with every religion - but, it's kinda logical & common sense.
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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 6th, '07, 23:24

danigantt wrote:college has made hard and cold. it made me realize that the 1960s Civil Rights Movement didn't achieve the true equality that is written in the history books.

We made some gains, but I've come to realize that I'm living in a breathing racist society.

It's depressing to think about, especially when I'm reminded of it every damn day.


I was initially pissed that I had to learn Spanish. I felt like Americans made Africans learn English and stripped them of all of their African culture. Why haven't they done the same to the Hispanics? Now, however, I am happy for the Hispanics that have come to America. They are getting to keep some of their culture, and I get to learn about a new culture. :happy:


I want to fight for all who are being treated unjustly.


ok but thats more a race thing we are talking religion.I guess your views do in someway tie in with the whole 'changing our way of life' in a lil way.

But i think your views on modern day life is kind of old fashioned.I dont think races are forced to change there culture anymore.Plus If you move into a new culture you have moved there for a reason.Whether you like it or not to fit into that culture you gotta be willing to become that culture.

Im not sayin strip yourself of your whole culture but you gotta at least embrace the new way of life otherwise there was no point in goin there in the first place.do you get what i mean?

its like some muslims,they come here and expect to live as though they were still in the middle east,and not even attempt to fit in with society.

fact is if you dont wanna be part of our society and accept the law and way of life,stay where you are.
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Postby D@vid » Feb 7th, '07, 01:01

we go through the same shit here in the US. everybody has to come here and make us change our laws to suit their needs. we had that same shit with the nativity scenes going on here in america.one was set up in an airport and all the jews complained to the airport that they wanted to put up their candle shit thing, whatever its called. i live right next to the second most populated city of arabs besides in the middle east. as long as they do what they want and not try to change the laws that america's founding fathers set, then they can stay. and as long as they at least try to learn english, they can stay. its not that i want every person to speak english in america, its the fact that most ppl don't even try. when most americans go on a vacation somewhere, just a vacation, they at least try tolearn a little bit of the language. but ppl who move here to the US, whether legally or illegally, don't even bother. how the hell are u supposed to get an american license when all the road signs are in english? they offer the license tests in several different languages, but every single road sign is in english. doesn't seem like they would be able to drive, now does it. i dunno if what i said makes sense, but i guess what im saying is that ppl need to not go to a foreign country and change the laws because they feel that they deserve the same rights that other ppl fought for.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 7th, '07, 02:15

bestestever202005 wrote:we go through the same shit here in the US. everybody has to come here and make us change our laws to suit their needs. we had that same shit with the nativity scenes going on here in america.one was set up in an airport and all the jews complained to the airport that they wanted to put up their candle shit thing, whatever its called. i live right next to the second most populated city of arabs besides in the middle east. as long as they do what they want and not try to change the laws that america's founding fathers set, then they can stay. and as long as they at least try to learn english, they can stay. its not that i want every person to speak english in america, its the fact that most ppl don't even try. when most americans go on a vacation somewhere, just a vacation, they at least try tolearn a little bit of the language. but ppl who move here to the US, whether legally or illegally, don't even bother. how the hell are u supposed to get an american license when all the road signs are in english? they offer the license tests in several different languages, but every single road sign is in english. doesn't seem like they would be able to drive, now does it. i dunno if what i said makes sense, but i guess what im saying is that ppl need to not go to a foreign country and change the laws because they feel that they deserve the same rights that other ppl fought for.


so to some it um in stupid laungage:-

whats the point, if you have 20 red balls and 2 blue balls, its esier to change the 2 blue balls red than it is to change the 20 red balls blue

i got it right, right ?
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Postby D@vid » Feb 7th, '07, 02:27

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bestestever202005 wrote:we go through the same shit here in the US. everybody has to come here and make us change our laws to suit their needs. we had that same shit with the nativity scenes going on here in america.one was set up in an airport and all the jews complained to the airport that they wanted to put up their candle shit thing, whatever its called. i live right next to the second most populated city of arabs besides in the middle east. as long as they do what they want and not try to change the laws that america's founding fathers set, then they can stay. and as long as they at least try to learn english, they can stay. its not that i want every person to speak english in america, its the fact that most ppl don't even try. when most americans go on a vacation somewhere, just a vacation, they at least try tolearn a little bit of the language. but ppl who move here to the US, whether legally or illegally, don't even bother. how the hell are u supposed to get an american license when all the road signs are in english? they offer the license tests in several different languages, but every single road sign is in english. doesn't seem like they would be able to drive, now does it. i dunno if what i said makes sense, but i guess what im saying is that ppl need to not go to a foreign country and change the laws because they feel that they deserve the same rights that other ppl fought for.


so to some it um in stupid laungage:-

whats the point, if you have 20 red balls and 2 blue balls, its esier to change the 2 blue balls red than it is to change the 20 red balls blue

i got it right, right ?




not really. i'm not saying they have to change, but at least try to learn a fuckin language b4 u move to or visit another country. its not that hard to do. if u made the choice to live with another culture, then adjust ur ways a little to fit in more with that culture. but i don't exactly mean change, it just comes out that way. i can't think of another way to say it.
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