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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 7th, '07, 02:30

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bestestever202005 wrote:we go through the same shit here in the US. everybody has to come here and make us change our laws to suit their needs. we had that same shit with the nativity scenes going on here in america.one was set up in an airport and all the jews complained to the airport that they wanted to put up their candle shit thing, whatever its called. i live right next to the second most populated city of arabs besides in the middle east. as long as they do what they want and not try to change the laws that america's founding fathers set, then they can stay. and as long as they at least try to learn english, they can stay. its not that i want every person to speak english in america, its the fact that most ppl don't even try. when most americans go on a vacation somewhere, just a vacation, they at least try tolearn a little bit of the language. but ppl who move here to the US, whether legally or illegally, don't even bother. how the hell are u supposed to get an american license when all the road signs are in english? they offer the license tests in several different languages, but every single road sign is in english. doesn't seem like they would be able to drive, now does it. i dunno if what i said makes sense, but i guess what im saying is that ppl need to not go to a foreign country and change the laws because they feel that they deserve the same rights that other ppl fought for.


so to some it um in stupid laungage:-

whats the point, if you have 20 red balls and 2 blue balls, its esier to change the 2 blue balls red than it is to change the 20 red balls blue

i got it right, right ?




not really. i'm not saying they have to change, but at least try to learn a fuckin language b4 u move to or visit another country. its not that hard to do. if u made the choice to live with another culture, then adjust ur ways a little to fit in more with that culture. but i don't exactly mean change, it just comes out that way. i can't think of another way to say it.


nah i get ya :sweating:
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Postby sinemm » Feb 7th, '07, 15:20

[color=violet]aw

still continueing?

im not in a right mood for it..im happy today..byes :wave:

but im still sayin there are rly alot of morons from all religions races..

and im still proud as im one of the real Muslims :) :flower:


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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 7th, '07, 16:12

sinemm wrote:[color=violet]aw

still continueing?

im not in a right mood for it..im happy today..byes :wave:

[b]but im still sayin there are rly alot of morons from all religions races..


and im still proud as im one of the real Muslims :) :flower:


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Postby AspirinE » Feb 7th, '07, 16:14

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sinemm wrote:[color=violet]aw

still continueing?

im not in a right mood for it..im happy today..byes :wave:

[b]but im still sayin there are rly alot of morons from all religions races..


and im still proud as im one of the real Muslims :) :flower:


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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 7th, '07, 16:15

sinemm i dunno why people so defensive of religion.remember when you need help god aint gonna be there to carry that weight for u its gonna be a friend a actual human.So we gotta learn to live to respect people not man made gods.

so when i hear muslims saying there god tells them to sacrafice there life via bombs and air jets it makes me wonder.
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Postby sinemm » Feb 7th, '07, 17:15

ah come on didnt i say the same thing at before posts?

ppl need eachother till the day we all die we need peace to live fine

so i agree wit ya bout it..

anyway i dont wanna talk more..

@ bar: isnt Bush a christian? :confusion:
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 7th, '07, 17:17

sinemm wrote:ah come on didnt i say the same thing at before posts?

ppl need eachother till the day we all die we need peace to live fine

so i agree wit ya bout it..

anyway i dont wanna talk more..

@ bar: isnt Bush a christian? :confusion:


i aint talking bout bush im talking bout normal ppl
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 7th, '07, 17:49

danigantt wrote:i been thinking about this.


the whole thing you're suggesting is totally :zipped: .


are you saying no one should migrate unless they want to speak the language of where the are moving? :confusion:


i don't agree. i'd rather the world be a tossed salad rather than a "melting pot."

besides, when i see asian girls wearing make-up, UGG boots, and they have blonde hair... I CRINGE! they look REALLY fake.


if Muslims went somewhere and tried to "blend in," people would be like, "they're trying to take over." i've seen this before.. :whistle:


no, we are saying that, when the come to stay in "our" country then "we" shouldnt have to change our laws and our traditions to suite them, they should just live with the way our country is run and ur traditions or else fuck off back to were they came from
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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 7th, '07, 18:36

danigantt wrote:i been thinking about this.


the whole thing you're suggesting is totally :zipped: .


are you saying no one should migrate unless they want to speak the language of where the are moving? :confusion:


i don't agree. i'd rather the world be a tossed salad rather than a "melting pot."

besides, when i see asian girls wearing make-up, UGG boots, and they have blonde hair... I CRINGE! they look REALLY fake.


if Muslims went somewhere and tried to "blend in," people would be like, "they're trying to take over." i've seen this before.. :whistle:


no we dont want them to be western in the way they look but in the way they think.

When you walking our streets you shouldnt hide behind a mask sheet,show your face and connect with the community.Uk has always been very flexible when concerning imagrants,we got out of our way to help people.Our biggest asset has now turned to our biggest downfall.

The trust we showed to them is slowly becoming warped,due to a large portion of the uk muslim community.

they dont want our laws,our way of life and instead want us to want theres.

Well sorry im not havin it -_-
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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 7th, '07, 23:09

^everything to you has to tie with racism....this is RELIGION! religon is not a race people Image
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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 7th, '07, 23:21

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$0 R3@L wrote:^everything to you has to tie with racism....this is RELIGION! religon is not a race people Image




thread title CLEARLY states "race/religion." :roll:



besides, if they were white, i personally don't think it would be a huge deal. but as i said before :zipped: .


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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 7th, '07, 23:46

yes, one-sided. while you type about how Muslims are "taking over" your country. Completely forgeting the fact that much of the comfortable lifestyle you enjoy is at the expense of Muslims in oil countries, which have been taken advantage of for years by the Western world


i live no comfortable lifestyle.Another point is you making this wholeeeee topic about race ,i dont liek that.You are being racist against western white people subliminaly.


forgetting the fact that a small part of the chaos in their native lands is a result of your country and other countries.


other countries being yours dani?


completely ignoring the possibility that they don't want to be around you either and that's why they reject conforming.


exactly our point.IF they did not want to be around us (meaning the religious beliefs) then they shouldnt.You making us all out to be racist.


yes. i'm VERY one-sided


yes...yes you are.Wake up its the 20th century.
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Postby Sophie » Feb 7th, '07, 23:49

danigantt wrote:
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$0 R3@L wrote:^everything to you has to tie with racism....this is RELIGION! religon is not a race people Image




thread title CLEARLY states "race/religion." :roll:



besides, if they were white, i personally don't think it would be a huge deal. but as i said before :zipped: .


yes continue your one sided views of modern day life Image



yes, one-sided. while you type about how Muslims are "taking over" your country. Completely forgeting the fact that much of the comfortable lifestyle you enjoy is at the expense of Muslims in oil countries, which have been taken advantage of for years by the Western world.


forgetting the fact that a small part of the chaos in their native lands is a result of your country and other countries.


completely ignoring the possibility that they don't want to be around you either and that's why they reject conforming.

yes. i'm VERY one-sided.



If muslims dont wanna be around us either then why do they keep comin 2 places lyk england? :unsure:
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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 7th, '07, 23:55

its people such as dani why the government refuses to take action on people messing with our way of life.They get backed into the 'racists' corner when anyone with an ounce of sense would realise that religion in not a race.

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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 8th, '07, 00:19

by the way... computer=comfortable... at least more comfortable then the lives these immigrant Muslims are living.


computer = worked for it

Which would you choose? Would you say, "well, i should stay in my country because in England, I can't wear my scarf." :confusion: NO. you'd be on the next camel (racial joke. :giggle: ) out of the place.

You saying that if they won't strip themselves of their cultural identity, they should go back. It's just not :unsure: "right" .


wow you really take me out of context dont u :confusion:

the 'scarf' thing was in the news over here for about 4 months.Basically a women refused to remove the scarf in her job due to the fact there was 'male humans in the room present'....she sed it was 'her religious beliefes' ...yet the same women when attending the interview for the job sed 'its was no problem to not where the scarf in the school to be able to connect easier with the children' not to mention the fact the person who interviewed her for the job was a male and she had no issues then.

she later sued the school claiming they didnt respect her religious beliefs.

ever since muslims have recieved heat from society since 9/11 it has became fashonable to hide behind there religious beliefs and disconnect themselfs from all other people within society.

The 'scarf' is no longer worn as a religious staement but as a political one by many muslims.

A muslim leader yesterday called out for 'all muslim people who join the uk army shud be be-headed'

If you cant see why we are so angry then you are just blinding yourself.


if it's time for ME to wake up... then you've definatley been about 100 years in need of a wake-up call.

What you're suggesting is for the Muslims to "go back where the came from." It's completely reminiscent of "The Trail of Tears," where America made all the Native American tribes move onto reservations. This worked back in the 1800s, but this is 2007. You should just accept it. They're there to stay. Suck it up and take it :console:


you took the line 'go back to where they came from' out of context.Youve made it a race issue when i was stating it as a religious one.Native american etc was a race issue this is not this is a religious one.suck that up and take it ;)
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