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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 8th, '07, 12:00

the way I am trying to accept the fact that maybe all White people have a pinch of racist in them


i stopped reading after dani posted that.Makes sense why she kept going on about race is the other thread.

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Postby Vettori » Feb 8th, '07, 12:25

We have to take this into aknoledgement...People have these feuds for specific reasons.The past is a way for alot of people to make up excuses
Have you ever been Robbed from someone and talked down to like ur nothing feeling powerless to do something from a situation from a person(s) from another race...Well ill tell you my story....I was Jacked in a city i find to be well known to myself. and i can even make a good judgement of character. (this isn't to sound racist) but a black guy and his friends approach me. and basically ask me for my shit, or i get shot etc etc.. w/e threats they like to use....But after all this was over...The anger inside me was enough to probably pull a columbine mind the sevarity of the situation, im just giving an example.....This had probably happened to one person who then took into there time to write the message tha you have shared with us all....To express his feelings on which had just happened. we may never no the reason but it's a slight posibility..


Danigant had said :

Who ever said calling anyone a name was okay? I'll leave it at that and not even type the hundreds of years of destruction of the civilizations of people of color. Your ancestors weren't called these names as they worked in the fields or immigrated across the ocean to find a better way of life. Calling anyone a name is wrong, but our words come out of retaliation. Where does yours come from?

Well that was degrading to basically alot of white people. most in which wont take offense like me, But The last part sorta caught my attention...You call it retaliation....Well if you think about it so Do we...Some people will up and do things for no reason....But the Society of today is honestly going threw hell because of what our ancestors choe to do...Were the wrong people sufering from the damages.....anyways I dont think he/she was in the right or wrong...There were some things said truthful, and alot which should have been left out.
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Re: Who cares....I am a fucking racist, my *****.

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 8th, '07, 12:32

danigantt wrote:#1. If you agree with any of the things that were said, you ARE a racist. If you're a minority and agree with any of it, you probaly have some deep inner hatred. You need to accept that as a part of your personality the way I am trying to accept the fact that maybe all White people have a pinch of racist in them, even those that listen to hip-hop. A close friend of mine, who's fucking Italian :confusion: , posted this on his wall. I am trying to figure out what the fuck is in you people that makes you think you're better than everyone or that some how, you're getting cheated in life? :confusion:





You call me "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey", "Gringo" and you think it's OK.

...But when I call you Kike, sand *****, rag head ,Towelhead, WOP, Camel Jockey, Gook, *****, slant eyes or Chink you call me a racist.



Who ever said calling anyone a name was okay? :confusion: I'll leave it at that and not even type the hundreds of years of destruction of the civilizations of people of color. Your ancestors weren't called these names as they worked in the fields or immigrated across the ocean to find a better way of life. Calling anyone a name is wrong, but our words come out of retaliation. Where does yours come from?

-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?


Ghettos are dangerous because White america makes them that way. Anywhere in the world where there's a lack of good education, there is going to be crime. Read "Savage Inequalities" by Kozol (a white man) before agreeing with such an ignorant statement.


-You have the United Negro College Fund.


of the FEW black people that recieve a decent education to go to college, they probaly can't afford it. there are hundreds of scholarships that favor White households... can we have this ONE fucking scholarship? Can we have something.. anything?

-You have Martin Luther King Day.

-You have Black History Month.

-You have Cesar Chavez Day.

-You have Yom Hashoah

-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi


EVERY FUCKING DAY IS WHITE DAY. Can we get a day.. a month? What is Thanksgiving? A celebration of the end of the Native American culture. Columbus Day? Columbus raped Native Caribbean women. The whole tribe died from diseases and syphilis. We learn White history EVERY DAY. I was forced in school to know shit about White people in other countries, but you cry about ONE MONTH.. ONE DAY.. of learning about others' history.

-You have the NAACP.


Yes! As a result of your never ending terrorism and hatred. Who else would stand up for Black people in the court system? Not you.


-You have BET.


Yes! We have BET. There is also a Latino MTV too. YOU HAVE EVERY OTHER STATION!! There are like 10 black shows on tv, and most of those either show a negative image of Blacks or is a show where the Blacks act White. What's wrong with us getting ONE, FUCKING, DEGRADING, and MEASLEY station?

-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.


What do you call ALL OF TELEVISION?! It is WET.


-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.


What's the point of a White Pride Day when you've made it PAINFULLY obvious that you think you're better than every other race. EVERY DAY IS WHITE PRIDE DAY!
-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.


YOU HAVE A WHOLE FUCKING YEAR!!! You have everyday!

-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.


ADVANCE TO WHAT? YOU OWN EVERYTHING, EVEN B.E.T.! There is no need for an advancement of the white race. Besides, isn't that what the KKK is? Isn't it for the advancement of the White race?!!!

-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.


You do! Just because it doesn't specifically state "white's only," doesn't mean that a Black person can win it. Daughters of the American Revolution have a essay scholarship contest..... Minorities NEVER win. Have they been sued about it... ? No... are white people complainin about it? no.

-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.


What rights are Whites missing? There is no need for any of the shit you're suggesting other than that you want to be hateful!

-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.


Because... you aren't doing these things out of a need for one. You're doing them because minorities are doing them. There is a NEED for things like this. You don't understand what it's like to be a person of color in a crowd of whites, especially ones that think as racist as this.

-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.


WHEN U ANNOUNCE UR WHITE PRIDE, YOU'RE USUALLY WEARING A WHITE HOOD AND BURNING A CROSS ON SOMEONE'S FRONT YARD!


But, you call me a racist.


I call u a racist because of this ignorant shit you agree with.



right wait a minute i dont give a fuck on class or shit but thats all basically wrong

everyday is a white day what sort of bullshit is that, so coz its tuesday and not a black holiday i jump into the town grab the black people and say " get back in your house this is a white day" BULLSHIT!!! everday is a normal day NORMAL!!! your turning stuff that isnt even fucking there into something,

every channel is a white channel :confusion: last time i checked CBBC, MTV, BBC NEWS, SKY NEWS, SKY ONE, SKY SPORTS, CHANNEL 1 ,2 ,3 ,4 ,5 , all have black people on them EVERY DAY, every channel is a NORMAL CHANEL you making shit out of nothing again

on BET there probly white people IDK i dont get it, i got the shit free package,

the days black gets are also NORMAL days with just a black celebration goin on, i agree with the guy that about whites getting classed as racists, but in different sense, we get classed coz what generation before us did, they all fucking dead now,

@asp, i aint a fucking nazi my family aint nazi no one in mt town is nazi not all white people are nazi, if we were why the fuck did we fight them to the extent we did, GERMANY was full of nazis countries sorounding germany were , every other fucking country wanted to stop them and even now there hatred towards nazi more than there is pro nazi, idk why nazi even got brought up its somehting that happened years ago it got shit to do with what would happen or how shit does happen now, if there was WET it wouldnt be pro nazi just coz its ran by whites, ( unless channel 5 ran it coz they always got shows bout nazis :p ),

but i dont see why we need it making stuff such as BET is making a LINE saying this is black this i not white that encouraes racism, if you look at stuff and think racism you are by fact the racists, if you look and go there a black or white or chinese person goin down the straight you are the racists coz its a PERSON goin down the straight not a race colour raligioun a PERSON


@dani, you nd loads of other people got to stop thinking the generations of now are puting black people down back in slaves yes they did everyone knows the fuckers were wrong now lots of black charity funds to help south arficans are ran by whites, fuck im half south african myself, whites dont put black epople down as much as you think, yes theres racists theres always gonni be racists the same as there always gonni be wars goin on, the point is to look over and above these racists and stop giving themr eason to argue, "your a N****" head up walk, we are better than that now a days to care when sick fuckers go o about that shit,

theres whites in ghettos we just dont publify it, you think there isnt ? ill use scotland since thats were i know, you think round here everyone has a silver spoon in there mouth loads of cash and a fucking porshe ? ive never lived in a back and front door , all my freinds and everyone i know live in bad areas this place got more bad than good, we got poverty here aswell we got homeless people, we got kids were tere mums are crackheads and they cant get fed GUESS WHAT THERES WHITE GHETTOS TO, so we know what the fuck its like to feel as if the system is puting you down, ive had to live with it my whole life, im 16 and only starting to get a life,

you need to stop thinking every white is puting blacks dwn and that everyhting is white just coz it ran by a board of white poepe dont ean its racists it mean there aint no blacks working on the panel, if you say yeh but there a black cleaning the trash, maybe just maybethe guy didnt do right in his life, then you say he didnt get a chance of education, every black on scotland get the same shcools as whites they get the same chance

, if a black is working a bad job its coz society made them, if a white is working a bad job its coz they are bums

^ thats on the sense i agree with the guy

and im done , some people here just aint looking at the full scale and some are looking at the picture to big there goin back 100's of years in the past
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 8th, '07, 12:47

Logann wrote:Alright but who's giving the white poor trailor trash people scholarshipz lulz


and that is actually a good point, i dont see know funds or anything coming to the white people i see struggling growing up, but we dont think about it we take it on the chin dont blame everyone else and try make a better life with what we got
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Postby Vettori » Feb 8th, '07, 12:49

Ouch danigant i just read the rest of what you said.....It seems to me ( sorry for judgement) but you have alot of tension, and hatred for white people...But the way you make it sound is that black people dont get a chance...they get chances But some just like it the way its being run Not to many complain...Either way a specific race no matter what would like to feel dominant.. But i think its a matter of where yu live......Do you think its racist that More white people over populate blacks in certain countries...?..its really not by fault...And todays society can only be somewhat blamed..But ur throwing the hole system down....Think tho it takes 2 to start a fight
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Postby Vettori » Feb 8th, '07, 12:51

The white people of today have sacrificed a lot as well to keep the black communities going...Weve even gotten to equelling out the way we live....Alot of forighners that come to say canada..They get a free check and Job opertunities. They gte more money then a normal white canadian citisin...It's the small things that add up...Theres just only so much people can do
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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 8th, '07, 12:55

Faith99 wrote:Ouch danigant i just read the rest of what you said.....It seems to me ( sorry for judgement) but you have alot of tension, and hatred for white people...But the way you make it sound is that black people dont get a chance...they get chances But some just like it the way its being run Not to many complain...Either way a specific race no matter what would like to feel dominant.. But i think its a matter of where yu live......Do you think its racist that More white people over populate blacks in certain countries...?..its really not by fault...And todays society can only be somewhat blamed..But ur throwing the hole system down....Think tho it takes 2 to start a fight
That should be the logo for war and racist Actions

IT TAKES 2 TO START SOMETHING


i agree with alot of that,well put dude.

Also time to face the facts that white people have apologised for our ancestors history.We cant change the fact what happend happend but it s changed today.The majority of idols in the music charts and some powerful people in the world are black.Race hate is becmoing if not become a thing of the past now.The only people keeping it alive is people like danni who still hold hate and act like they got a massive chip on they shoulder.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 8th, '07, 12:56

Faith99 wrote:The white people of today have sacrificed a lot as well to keep the black communities going...Weve even gotten to equelling out the way we live....Alot of forighners that come to say canada..They get a free check and Job opertunities. They gte more money then a normal white canadian citisin...It's the small things that add up...Theres just only so much people can do


yup, we change our laws we change the way we speak we change our phrases so they have a happier life here, ( in uk ) , but alot of them still shout racists as soon as they can to get even more shit, and like danni as soon as there a white perosn with a little wait a minute here and question the system she goes RACISTS RACISTS as if every white perosn is racists, i aint racists my dad was born in south african he aint black but i got the rights to imigrate or play for the south african soccer team, im part of that country legally, but danni seriosuly get a fucking brain check, soemone sayed they havent met a black racists, you dont watch news i heard of black gangs killing white boys shouting "honkey honkey" while doing it, and danni is proving she got a racists theme in her with alot of hatred for what the whites did back in slave trade, danni look whites now a days aint those people open your eyes and look around you, go to a homless shelter probably alot are ran by whites, look aorund and see what whites do to help black people and not just at the arseholes who live in the past
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Re: Who cares....I am a fucking racist, my *****.

Postby AspirinE » Feb 8th, '07, 13:04

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@asp, i aint a fucking nazi my family aint nazi no one in mt town is nazi not all white people are nazi, if we were why the fuck did we fight them to the extent we did, GERMANY was full of nazis countries sorounding germany were , every other fucking country wanted to stop them and even now there hatred towards nazi more than there is pro nazi, idk why nazi even got brought up its somehting that happened years ago it got shit to do with what would happen or how shit does happen now, if there was WET it wouldnt be pro nazi just coz its ran by whites, ( unless channel 5 ran it coz they always got shows bout nazis :p ),


Ohh wouldnt eh? I'm not generalizing 100% of the people, it just so happens that majority of people in all countries will resort to a racist rant whenever the issue turns up. Thats just how it is. Russians arent nazi's either. But as soon as propaganda about how slavics were true "arians" came along with some old dude in a village preaching religious symbolism that is supposingly related to the nazi etymology... the hate groups spured, because of attention and misunderstanding of society. You need to understand class difference to see this, its not even about the morals or what country its just about majority and scape goats.

but i dont see why we need it making stuff such as BET is making a LINE saying this is black this i not white that encouraes racism, if you look at stuff and think racism you are by fact the racists, if you look and go there a black or white or chinese person goin down the straight you are the racists coz its a PERSON goin down the straight not a race colour raligioun a PERSON


BET is a shitty ass channel anyway, were most of this "artists" like Lil wayne portray their own race with disgrace. Not only should we not care, but we should let them figure it out themselves. nobody said it aint gone take time, u cant just cahnge everybodies mindstate at the same time. BET has little relevance to actual racism. I personally don't even believe in "racism" race is just a generalization. Its about losers that cant find a job and the people who have the money and dont wanna share, quarreling.


@dani, you nd loads of other people got to stop thinking the generations of now are puting black people down back in slaves yes they did everyone knows the fuckers were wrong now lots of black charity funds to help south arficans are ran by whites, fuck im half south african myself, whites dont put black epople down as much as you think


I to some extent agree, but once again. Race has nothing to do with this - class does. And the lower class IS being kept in the ghettos and shitty areas, because money backs cut back job spots just so they can save more for another mercedes.


theres whites in ghettos we just dont publify it, you think there isnt ? ill use scotland since thats were i know, you think round here everyone has a silver spoon in there mouth loads of cash and a fucking porshe ? ive never lived in a back and front door , all my freinds and everyone i know live in bad areas this place got more bad than good, we got poverty here aswell we got homeless people, we got kids were tere mums are crackheads and they cant get fed GUESS WHAT THERES WHITE GHETTOS TO, so we know what the fuck its like to feel as if the system is puting you down, ive had to live with it my whole life, im 16 and only starting to get a life,

you need to stop thinking every white is puting blacks dwn and that everyhting is white just coz it ran by a board of white poepe dont ean its racists it mean there aint no blacks working on the panel, if you say yeh but there a black cleaning the trash, maybe just maybethe guy didnt do right in his life, then you say he didnt get a chance of education, every black on scotland get the same shcools as whites they get the same chance

, if a black is working a bad job its coz society made them, if a white is working a bad job its coz they are bums

^ thats on the sense i agree with the guy

and im done , some people here just aint looking at the full scale and some are looking at the picture to big there goin back 100's of years in the past





by saying all that ^ ur basically being as racist as the guy that made the bulliten. Black people, white people, purple people, who the fuck cares. Just coz u hear more a bout black people complaining doesnt mean u gotta take on their race in return. It isnt about race. If u want to use ur commomn sense for a cause, educate people, dont try to "retaliate". Coz racism is how white people "retaliate" at black people these days...


as i said, people who dont like the capitalist system that decides the fate of what class ur gonna be born into, should start changing their political views, aint shit gonna change by people getting offeded by being called "crack.ers" and retaliate screams of remarks such as "i have the right to call you "n.igg.er".


- You dont need a WET to retaliate for BET
- You dont need to prove that whites live shitty too to justify that ur not a BUM to some idiots
- You dont need to drop an N-bomb ever black guy that calls u a cr.acker
- You dont need to make bulletins to "show that ur not racist but you dont like black people for doing this, that and this."






edit: and i agree with about 90% of what danigantt says, that includes white people being keen to racism, partly the reason is i am half-armenian which means in russia i am part of a hated minority(well not so much a minority seing as how real russians with russian origins are on all time low), but what helped me understand these kind of situations more is the motivations people like Karl Marx... or Lenin... life without race, and without a position to blame someone else, coz blaming is just too easy.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 8th, '07, 13:16

- You dont need a WET to retaliate for BET
- You dont need to prove that whites live shitty too to justify that ur not a BUM to some idiots
- You dont need to drop an N-bomb ever black guy that calls u a cr.acker
- You dont need to make bulletins to "show that ur not racist but you dont like black people for doing this, that and this



thats what im tryna say, i wasnt trying to prove that whites have shitty lives to but danni goes on as if black people have this bad life and white people have this great life and shunn down on blacks without helping the ones in need, like you said its a class, white help backs in need, blacks help whites in needs, asian arab we all help each other in need, but some people dont open there eyes and see that like dani,

she closes her eyes at the good things and sleeps, opens her eyes at the bad and shouts her mouth off, she basically just whent on a rant against white people, im not saying i disagree with what she sayed she was right but she words and projects it in the completely wrong manner

and im goin out my league here, my knowledge on this stuff is that of simple im only saying what i see happening in my community and some of what i learned through study in school, but danni needs to come in here and admits she is projecting this the wrong way, she is trying to show a different point than she is creating, saying all white people have a bit of racism in them, come on, i dont have a reason to even be racists, i never had a bad experience with black people i worked with lots in school i talk away with them in the shops they laugh and joke with my love for hip hop, but she saying all whites have a bit of racism is saying i have when i dont and never will
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 8th, '07, 13:30

thats what im tryna say, i wasnt trying to prove that whites have shitty lives to but danni goes on as if black people have this bad life and white people have this great life and shunn down on blacks without helping the ones in need, like you said its a class, white help backs in need, blacks help whites in needs, asian arab we all help each other in need, but some people dont open there eyes and see that like dani,


White people own 90% of this world, america was founded taken over by racist priciple. It IS to some point set up. The whole idea behind saying that white people oppress minorities is not based on nothing, yes minorities do have a chance, but because of the way it all started they have it harder, in general.


she closes her eyes at the good things and sleeps, opens her eyes at the bad and shouts her mouth off, she basically just whent on a rant against white people, im not saying i disagree with what she sayed she was right but she words and projects it in the completely wrong manner

depends how u are reading them words.

and im goin out my league here, my knowledge on this stuff is that of simple im only saying what i see happening in my community and some of what i learned through study in school, but danni needs to come in here and admits she is projecting this the wrong way, she is trying to show a different point than she is creating, syaing all white people have a bit of racism in them come on, i dont have a reason to even be racists, i never had a bad experience with black people i worked with lots in school i talk away with them in the shops they laugh and joke with my love for hip hop, but he syaing all whites have a bit of racism is saying i have when i dont and never will


But its true to an extent, white people founded capitalism which created money and land ownership.... which created land exploitation, inevitably creating racism. That is the way it is regardless how each individual see's it. I never been racist either... but if u or me were rich bastarts living on a piece of land our grandfathers bought we'd be in some way racist too, proclaiming land as ours and then saying that there are people who come to our country and do nothing to deserve the "fredome" given, freedome which doesnt technically exist since we all own each other unless we are on top of the foodchain.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 8th, '07, 13:36

But its true to an extent, white people founded capitalism which created money and land ownership.... which created land exploitation, inevitably creating racism. That is the way it is regardless how each individual see's it. I never been racist either... but if u or me were rich bastarts living on a piece of land our grandfathers bought we'd be in some way racist too, proclaiming land as ours and then saying that there are people who come to our country and do nothing to deserve the "fredome" given, freedome which doesnt technically exist since we all own each other unless we are on top of the foodchain.


agreed, still doesnt take the fact away dani and other people blame pople of today like myself for what they did, we cant go back and change what the people did back then, but we try help the poeple who are still down because off what they did, nothing more we can do other than help them
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Postby Inzanity » Feb 8th, '07, 15:55

Mr. Nation wrote:I stand on what I said....fuck whities.......almost all of them


how r u gonna say fuck white's when ur favorite rapper is white
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Postby Vettori » Feb 8th, '07, 21:31

The way That ive noticed, Black people Can't let go of racism, If theres a problem they bring it back up..For them making BET to try and stand out more...Thats a racist attempt.....Th way i see it Black people are keeping the racism going...and the reason some white racists still exist, is because they cant stand to be dominated.......This thread was really nice to learn from....But It wont change any lives...Maybe one but thats good enuff i guess
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Postby Vettori » Feb 8th, '07, 23:42

Sorry I shouldnt have Selected one race....I mean to say...Every race can't let go of it,, The white people have tried...From what i have learned, and read....But it was mainly Black on white that was the problem back then..
If im wrong leme no...Cause i would really like to learn more, and correct the way i think if im wrong..
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