Em ghost writing

[Hadez]

is it true royce da 5'9'' sometimes used to ghostwrite for Em?

like Tash said its doubtful. but Royce did ghost write for Dre.

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There has always been plenty of speculation on Eminem ghostwriting for people, he was supposed to have written LL Cool J's rebuttal to Canibus in their feud. He did write all the lyrics for Guilty Conscience, which Dre was in, but there's no Proof either way to suggest he did on any other tracks. Only obvious one I can think of is "Forgot About Dre", Dre's lyrics on that track are amazin, outshining even Eminems (Which is something not even the best emcees can do), this in my opinion was Eminem's gift to Dre for bringing him into Rap. Those lyrics have Eminem's style written all over them, the multies, the flow and the kind of word rhyming that no other rappers do. As far as Ghost writing for 50 Cent goes, I don't agree about that, his verse on never enough is good, but not good enough to say it's Eminems, although Eminem's verse on that is nothing special either imho. There are some tracks on "Get Rich Or Die Trying" that Fifty uses multi-syllable rhyming, but he doesn't do it on tracks on his next album. This to me suggests that Eminem helped him out with the lyrics to make his debut album as successful as it could possibly be. And I remember 50 saying in an interview, that he would sometimes finish a track, and Eminem would then teach him ways to tighten up and make it flow better.

if it happened like you sayed at the end i wouldnt call it ghostwriting really, thats just a mentor helping his student but doin it on every track on every album then id call it ghostwriting

[AspirinE]

How do u guys know he ghostwrote for Dre? You guys have third eyes or something?

[Tash8]

no, but people claim that dre's verses was too much like eminem's style in forgot about dre that they figured eminem wrote it

[4D]

How do u guys know he ghostwrote for Dre? You guys have third eyes or something?

We don't know for certain, but we can weigh up the facts. Dre has always, by every rapper in hip-hop, being regarded as a producer first, rapper second. Even back in N.W.A, producer and rapper is what his talent was. But don't confuse rapper with lyricist, because they are two totally different things. Dre is one of my favourite rappers, for his voice and delivery, he's simply one of the best, cos as a producer he knows what sounds cool. But, anyone who knows something about writing rap lyrics, or writing complicated multi-syllable rhymes, can look at "Forgot About Dre" and think, okay, Dre has never written anything even 20% this lyrical before, and has never really done it since. He had just happened to sign Eminem that year, nice coincidence. Plus I watched Dre say in an interview that he has no problem having someone write some lyrics for him, because it's the same as him making beats for a rapper. So when we look at these points it's not hard to say Eminem might have wrote these verses for Dre, that's all we're saying.

[twistx3m]

is it true royce da 5'9'' sometimes used to ghostwrite for Em?

Hahahaha.. i cant believe any1 can say this ....

[SajN]

How do u guys know he ghostwrote for Dre? You guys have third eyes or something?

I think Em did ghostwrite for Dre .. Evene Wikipedia says that.. most of us dont trust wiki .. but I think that is true..

From Wikipedia:

Eminem is generally credited for writing both his and Dre's verses, as both follow the same rhyme scheme.

Has someone ever ghostwritten for Em ?

[mart85]

How do u guys know he ghostwrote for Dre? You guys have third eyes or something?

I don't have the 2001 album, but I think it's even written in the booklet that Eminem ghostwrote for Dre in Forgot About Dre and for those interested to know, Jay-Z wrote Still D.R.E, and Em wrote Dre's verses in Bang Bang, The Watcher and Let's Get High... according to the credits

[JMG]

I think hes credited for the watcher cuz hes in but if u listen to the lyrics I don't think em wrote dre's verses maybe a few lines

[mart85]

I think hes credited for the watcher cuz hes in but if u listen to the lyrics I don't think em wrote dre's verses maybe a few lines

yeah, well nobody really knows exactly who wrote which words/lines, but Eminem is credited as the only lyrics writer in this song... but I guess when one of Dre's ghostwriter comes to him and show him the lyrics they wrote, he changes them a bit to fit his flow/style... he probably added a lot of "n*****" in his lyrics when Em wrote them lol

[AspirinE]

How do u guys know he ghostwrote for Dre? You guys have third eyes or something?

We don't know for certain, but we can weigh up the facts. Dre has always, by every rapper in hip-hop, being regarded as a producer first, rapper second. Even back in N.W.A, producer and rapper is what his talent was. But don't confuse rapper with lyricist, because they are two totally different things. Dre is one of my favourite rappers, for his voice and delivery, he's simply one of the best, cos as a producer he knows what sounds cool. But, anyone who knows something about writing rap lyrics, or writing complicated multi-syllable rhymes, can look at "Forgot About Dre" and think, okay, Dre has never written anything even 20% this lyrical before, and has never really done it since. He had just happened to sign Eminem that year, nice coincidence. Plus I watched Dre say in an interview that he has no problem having someone write some lyrics for him, because it's the same as him making beats for a rapper. So when we look at these points it's not hard to say Eminem might have wrote these verses for Dre, that's all we're saying.

u dont know for certain, end of conversation. The rest is speculation and no matter how much people think they can "discover rhyme patterns" they can be wrong.

[mart85]

u dont know for certain, end of conversation. The rest is speculation and no matter how much people think they can "discover rhyme patterns" they can be wrong.

yeah, that's absolutely right, sometimes people are like "this line sounds like something Em wrote", or "this doesn't sound like Em", but we can't know for sure, the only people who know is those who were there when the lyrics were written...

but still ASP, read my other post The official credits for the album tell who "ghostwrote" for Dre lol...

or look at this:

http://www.dubcc.com/forum/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=4898

the guy took that from the 2001 Booklet

[JMG]

damn dre didn't write one song on his cd?

[AspirinE]

u dont know for certain, end of conversation. The rest is speculation and no matter how much people think they can "discover rhyme patterns" they can be wrong.

yeah, that's absolutely right, sometimes people are like "this line sounds like something Em wrote", or "this doesn't sound like Em", but we can't know for sure, the only people who know is those who were there when the lyrics were written...

but still ASP, read my other post The official credits for the album tell who "ghostwrote" for Dre lol...

or look at this:

http://www.dubcc.com/forum/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=4898

the guy took that from the 2001 Booklet

thats because they dont always need to add the original artists name in the titles since its his album.

[mart85]

damn dre didn't write one song on his cd?

lol it seems like it... but like Fordie said, Dre isn't a lyricist... Dre is not about writing lyrical stuff etc... he's more about production, so he knows what's sounds good, and I agree with Fordie, he's real good with flows/delivery etc... but writing isn't is thing I guess I don't know lol

I admit that I was kinda disapointed a bit when I learned that tho