New Album... Excited?

[AspirinE]

you can call him what you wanna call,

you need to get a sense of humor.

but he was right. i just say that I'm not sucking any dick.

ok fine, i respect ur opinion.

[meinem]

meinem, AspirinE called you a nazi... welcome to the club I know we are not but ASP knows better!

but you was goddamn right about Em

glad someone see's it same way i do lol and well i been called a lot worse but it goes in one ear and out the other or does it mean that him calling me a nazi is a mega compliment lol

[ashady27]

IM EXCITEd

y all yall bichews hatin on em on a eminem foeum

any em song i here gets me hyped!

[meinem]

IM EXCITEd

y all yall bichews hatin on em on a eminem foeum

any em song i here gets me hyped!

exactly and thats how it should be its the only way to show him the respect true fans have for him.

he lives for his family and fans why cant his fans return the respect to instead of all this hatin on him just cuz theres the odd 1 or 2 tracks ya dont like

at the end of the day your all sayin ya want another sslp or mmlp if all his albums was the same as those 2 then his music would be predictable each album is completely duifferent that shows real talent and thats what counts not that some tracks aint as good as others!

[AspirinE]

IM EXCITEd

y all yall bichews hatin on em on a eminem foeum

any em song i here gets me hyped!

exactly and thats how it should be its the only way to show him the respect true fans have for him.

he lives for his family and fans why cant his fans return the respect to instead of all this hatin on him just cuz theres the odd 1 or 2 tracks ya dont like

at the end of the day your all sayin ya want another sslp or mmlp if all his albums was the same as those 2 then his music would be predictable each album is completely duifferent that shows real talent and thats what counts not that some tracks aint as good as others!

Not liking some tracks these days means you 'hatin' eminem'?


this is exactly what im talking about, i would respect your oppinion if you'd respect an oppinion back.

[Crossova16]

im excited for hisn ew album ....im excited ot hear all the tracks on proof and all da stuff hes been going through with kim and all..!

[4D]

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[AspirinE]

Godamnit fordie, how many times do i have to say that i dont "diss" eminem for encore. I state my opinion, since i was honestly disappointed about the album in whole. I can't change the way i feel about and just because there are idiots in this world that love to hate doesn't mean i skew my opinion to appear in the same category. Don't speak for my opinion or how its meant to be interpreted.
If i diss a song its beacuse of the way i feel about it, and the way i feel entitled to a standard when an artists lives of the money i pay for his/her CD's.

By my own personal judgment i don't even credit albums that are below average, such as most of the trash released in consecutive years to 2003. Me saying "i don't like encore" doesnt mean im saying that its not decent in the averages of good albums, but when people reply they certainly do attempt to credit it with more than that, which results in clash of opinion and even with respect to opinions of certain people that know how discuss and dont just talk out they ass i would feel that one side can't be ultimately right.
Post like these persuade me to explain it over and over again, when you try to devalue another's opinion, which consequently makes me devalue theirs since almost none of the people on this board have nothing constructive to say.

[4D]

I`m not trying to devalue you opinion man, I`m just tryin to get you to see that the album isn't as bad as you sometimes say it is, that's all. I think we can all respect peoples opinions, but we wouldn't be human if we didn't try and convince them that their opinion sucks and we're right, lol. It's just part of our make-up, we want people to agree with us, you're the same man, you respect people's opinions, but you do try and also convince them that they're wrong.

[AspirinE]

I`m not trying to devalue you opinion man, I`m just tryin to get you to see that the album isn't as bad as you sometimes say it is, that's all. I think we can all respect peoples opinions, but we wouldn't be human if we didn't try and convince them that their opinion sucks and we're right, lol. It's just part of our make-up, we want people to agree with us, you're the same man, you respect people's opinions, but you do try and also convince them that they're wrong.

I said nothing bout "bad" ... i just don't consider it an artistic album. It was like listening to a formulated album with no topic, with apologies to something he didn't really need to apologize for, with songs about how he doesn't give a fuck about what he writes. Its like a painter painting this big picture with realistic looking people and in the back he draws with a pen in terrible stick figure art.

In essence i mean that he did a few good songs and "filled" the album, i don't personally respect that and never will since this commercial single based technique kills music, it stabs it right in the back, murder in conscious cultural development of art, art that is called hip hop.

Not bad, just compromised. I'm saying this for the sake of people who listen to music, not to change their opinion but I'm explaining (now) for people that don't understand the disappointment of some people that didn't like it much, so they don't jump on the "ohh he's a hater, I'm right because he's a hater" bandwagon.

[4D]

I`m not trying to devalue you opinion man, I`m just tryin to get you to see that the album isn't as bad as you sometimes say it is, that's all. I think we can all respect peoples opinions, but we wouldn't be human if we didn't try and convince them that their opinion sucks and we're right, lol. It's just part of our make-up, we want people to agree with us, you're the same man, you respect people's opinions, but you do try and also convince them that they're wrong.

I said nothing bout "bad" ... i just don't consider it an artistic album. It was like listening to a formulated album with no topic, with apologies to something he didn't really need to apologize for, with songs about how he doesn't give a fuck about what he writes. Its like a painter painting this big picture with realistic looking people and in the back he draws with a pen in terrible stick figure art.

In essence i mean that he did a few good songs and "filled" the album, i don't personally respect that and never will since this commercial single based technique kills music, it stabs it right in the back, murder in conscious cultural development of art, art that is called hip hop.

Not bad, just compromised. I'm saying this for the sake of people who listen to music, not to change their opinion but I'm explaining (now) for people that don't understand the disappointment of some people that didn't like it much, so they don't jump on the "ohh he's a hater, I'm right because he's a hater" bandwagon.

Well I don't think I ever called ya a hater, but I know what you're sayin'. ALthough I think it does kind of come together as a kind of one-piece work of "Art", because I think one of the themes of the album was the death of SLim Shady. Like Toy Soldiers starts it off, and the other crazy songs like puke, Rain Man, Big Weenie, My 1st Single and Ass Like That, seemed to me like he was over-indulging in the Slim Shady character so that he could kill him off, and no longer do those tracks, which he also clearly indicated in "When I`m Gone". That's what I thought the theme of the album was, and though I also agree that this affected the album as a whole, I still feel it's a very good album.

[aleXander]

I still feel it's a very good album.

*supports Fordie*

[meinem]

I still feel it's a very good album.

*supports Fordie*

also supports fordie

i do wanna say though that some peeps can be over critisizing when it comes to new material no im not saying that you are aspirin as i respect your opinion aswell but the album is a good overall album it all depends in which way you look at it.

it is no better or no worse lyrically than sslp and mmlp they are all equally as good lyrically with good and bad tracks but he has just altered the way he puts his message accross at the end of the day rap is about getting your message accross in a skilled lyrical way the beat/tunes are just an extra with rap its the lyrics that count therefore i feel that although some tracks not as good as others they are all lyrically as good as each other when understood in the correct context and meaning

[Hadez]

I still feel it's a very good album.

*supports Fordie*

also supports fordie

i do wanna say though that some peeps can be over critisizing when it comes to new material no im not saying that you are aspirin as i respect your opinion aswell but the album is a good overall album it all depends in which way you look at it.

it is no better or no worse lyrically than sslp and mmlp they are all equally as good lyrically with good and bad tracks but he has just altered the way he puts his message accross at the end of the day rap is about getting your message accross in a skilled lyrical way the beat/tunes are just an extra with rap its the lyrics that count therefore i feel that although some tracks not as good as others they are all lyrically as good as each other when understood in the correct context and meaning

ok then wut was the correct context and meaning of "Rain Man"?

[meinem]

well as that is a good example:

its about how the media take him for a mug as if he was stupid and think he wont notice what he is doing - rain man being a thick stupid person blind to reality.

it also then refers to how everyone is trying to battle him creating unwanted beef and hows it not needed and totally pointless

and how he is always being critisized for saying what other people aint got the guts to and that its wrong that they should take offence to reality

it questions the reality of what is and is not acceptable in life and makes a point of saying what right does anyone have to say that what another person does is right or wrong (excluding serious crimes ect..) and why do they keep making an example out of him just because he made it big and has the guts to speak out on reality

but this has all been done in a stupid sort of weird mucking around fun way