Em ghost writing

[AspirinE]

damn dre didn't write one song on his cd?

lol it seems like it... but like Fordie said, Dre isn't a lyricist... Dre is not about writing lyrical stuff etc... he's more about production, so he knows what's sounds good, and I agree with Fordie, he's real good with flows/delivery etc... but writing isn't is thing I guess I don't know lol

I admit that I was kinda disapointed a bit when I learned that tho

theres more to credits, the obvious dre parts are credited for dre, read the booklet and ull find that its gonna be said somewhwere that "all material by dre written ... etc etc."

[mart85]

thats because they dont always need to add the original artists name in the titles since its his album.

yeah, in the title they don't have to add the original artist's name, but that's the writing credits... they always write all the writers, including the original artist

take a look at the chronic credits for example, Dre wrote a few songs, and his name is there, and for some other songs (like nuthing but a g thang) he didn't write them, so his name isn't there

http://www.dubcc.com/forum/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=4908


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theres more to credits, the obvious dre parts are credited for dre, read the booklet and ull find that its gonna be said somewhwere that "all material by dre written ... etc etc."

in the booklet it says "all songs produced by Dre" but not written by Dre...

[AspirinE]

thats because they dont always need to add the original artists name in the titles since its his album.

yeah, in the title they don't have to add the original artist's name, but that's the writing credits... they always write all the writers, including the original artist

take a look at the chronic credits for example, Dre wrote a few songs, and his name is there, and for some other songs (like nuthing but a g thang) he didn't write them, so his name isn't there

http://www.dubcc.com/forum/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=4908


Edit:

theres more to credits, the obvious dre parts are credited for dre, read the booklet and ull find that its gonna be said somewhwere that "all material by dre written ... etc etc."

in the booklet it says "all songs produced by Dre" but not written by Dre...

the thing is, when they "write" a song, it doesnt nesseserally mean its lyrics written either it can mean that one rapper lays down a concept and a brief version of wat one should rap and they rap it out on their own.

Dre has been in the game for like 20 years, im pretty sure he can write decent verses, especially wen he takes like 7 years to write an album.

[4D]

Dre has been in the game for like 20 years, im pretty sure he can write decent verses, especially wen he takes like 7 years to write an album.

That's an exact quote of something you said to me before man, it's a good point, but not neccessarily proof that he can either. Time doesn't equal results, especially when Dre is not tryin to be a top Emcee, he just wants to release a critically accclaimed record that sounds great. He's not trying to be Eminem, but I still bet Eminem wrote all the verses on "Forgot About Dre".

So where's all the Madd [b]Rappers at?
It's like a jungle in this habitat
But all you savage cats, know that I was strapped wit gats
when you were cuddlin a Cabbage Patch[/b]

There is nothing in those lyrics that suggest Dre wrote them, except for it's a rhyme about Gats. The multies and flow are far superior to anything else he spits on 2001 or The Chronic. I don't know why you're so sceptical about this Aspirine, it's plainly obvious to most people, heck, when the rumours were goin around about Em ghost-writnig for Dre, the Doc didn't even deny it, he just justified why it would be okay if he was accepting other rappers lyrics as his own.

[AspirinE]

Dre has been in the game for like 20 years, im pretty sure he can write decent verses, especially wen he takes like 7 years to write an album.

That's an exact quote of something you said to me before man, it's a good point, but not neccessarily proof that he can either. Time doesn't equal results, especially when Dre is not tryin to be a top Emcee, he just wants to release a critically accclaimed record that sounds great. He's not trying to be Eminem, but I still bet Eminem wrote all the verses on "Forgot About Dre".

So where's all the Madd [b]Rappers at?
It's like a jungle in this habitat
But all you savage cats, know that I was strapped wit gats
when you were cuddlin a Cabbage Patch[/b]

There is nothing in those lyrics that suggest Dre wrote them, except for it's a rhyme about Gats. The multies and flow are far superior to anything else he spits on 2001 or The Chronic. I don't know why you're so sceptical about this Aspirine, it's plainly obvious to most people, heck, when the rumours were goin around about Em ghost-writnig for Dre, the Doc didn't even deny it, he just justified why it would be okay if he was accepting other rappers lyrics as his own.

I could reply with the exact same thing i said in my last post about this(about dre being more motivated to rhyme better with better rappers) but i wont. And i don't think its nessesary to shift credit around when people don't know how it really is.

[ashady27]

i think em may have wrote some of the lyriks for "lose my mind" off "buck the world

what yall think?

[twistx3m]

i think em may have wrote some of the lyriks for "lose my mind" off "buck the world

what yall think?

I think he didnt

[Tash8]

like dre said...

it's okay for people to ghost write for you, just like it's okay for someone to make a beat for you..

[vermin]

I'm sure Em ghostwrites. He wrote ALL of the good rapsongs. Cuz he's the best. He's the only. He's the king of rap. He ghostwrites to everyone, from Nas to MF Doom. He's just sending is lyrics across the world. And not just in the rap. EVERY good song is ghostwritten by Eminem. Cuz he's the best (idk if I haven't told you this). Eminemshadyd1250centeminem was my nickname but I have to changed because I heard Em don't like it. And I do anything for the one and only Eminem! What do you think about his divorce?

greetings form a Popcorn reader

[mart85]

Dre has been in the game for like 20 years, im pretty sure he can write decent verses, especially wen he takes like 7 years to write an album.

That's an exact quote of something you said to me before man, it's a good point, but not neccessarily proof that he can either. Time doesn't equal results, especially when Dre is not tryin to be a top Emcee, he just wants to release a critically accclaimed record that sounds great. He's not trying to be Eminem, but I still bet Eminem wrote all the verses on "Forgot About Dre".

So where's all the Madd [b]Rappers at?
It's like a jungle in this habitat
But all you savage cats, know that I was strapped wit gats
when you were cuddlin a Cabbage Patch[/b]

There is nothing in those lyrics that suggest Dre wrote them, except for it's a rhyme about Gats. The multies and flow are far superior to anything else he spits on 2001 or The Chronic. I don't know why you're so sceptical about this Aspirine, it's plainly obvious to most people, heck, when the rumours were goin around about Em ghost-writnig for Dre, the Doc didn't even deny it, he just justified why it would be okay if he was accepting other rappers lyrics as his own.

I could reply with the exact same thing i said in my last post about this(about dre being more motivated to rhyme better with better rappers) but i wont. And i don't think its nessesary to shift credit around when people don't know how it really is.

yeah, to be honest, I don't know why you're so skeptical about this ASP If you want more proof than the official credits, look on google or something, for interviews... Jay-Z wrote Still D.R.E, he said it in an interview back then, and I remember Nas giving an interview about it, saying that it didn't bother him that much anymore when some rappers used other people's lyrics, and he mentionned Puff Daddy and Dre as examples...

it's in French, but here's the interview

http://www.90bpm.net/interview/nas.htm


and here's what I read on wikipedia:

"As a member of N.W.A., The D.O.C. wrote lyrics for him while he stuck with producing (See D.O.C interview in references for details). When Young went to Death Row, Snoop Dogg took on a lot of the writing work for Dr. Dre, although it should be noted that Dr. Dre has never openly admitted or denied this. More recently, New York rapper Jay-Z ghostwrote lyrics for the 2001 single "Still D.R.E." (He is listed under the songwriting credits as "S. Carter", or Shawn Carter)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Dre

I know wikipedia isn't a reliable source, but they took this information from an interview D.O.C. made...

but by the way, I don't think "ghoswriting" is the right term in this case, cause (I think) it means writing lyrics for someone without getting credit for it... in those case, the "ghostwriters" get credits, so they're not ghostwriters, they're just normal writers...

[AspirinE]

Well damn, ok u have me there, im not a big fan of dre since like 2003 but its kind of thought wrecking to hear that. Even though i still think dre has some decency to atleast write lyrics together (as in consulting) not complete rip off.

[DOPE]

dre has some decency to atleast write lyrics together (as in consulting) not complete rip off.

he does

he gets different writers with him and accepts the best rap written and also asks them to add a few things or remove some words and shit like that

[mart85]

Well damn, ok u have me there, im not a big fan of dre since like 2003 but its kind of thought wrecking to hear that. Even though i still think dre has some decency to atleast write lyrics together (as in consulting) not complete rip off.

yeah no doubt, this doesn't mean Dre has no talent in rap or something lol... I'm sure he comes up with his own flow, and adjusts the lyrics to fit the beat more etc... he knows what sounds good...

[Tash8]

wahtever Dre is the king of beats, and eminem is amazing at lyrics, those two together were unstoopable at one poiint.

[4D]

Dre's magic is the overall music, he helped Eminem and Snoop with their delivery, places where there's some kind of kooky melody like that little singin thing Snoop does sometimes, that's all DRE. Dre is the ultimate producer, he can write lyrics, rap lyrics, create hooks, make kick ass head-rockin beats, and can even help the best rappers, be better than they would be without him. So my points were not a diss to Dre, I kow he didn't write the lyrics to some of his shit, that's because he's not lyrically talented to come up with that shit, but you can bet he came up with a lot of cool song concepts for Eminem & Snoop.