Eminem And Proof

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ok i just sorta thought about something, does anyone think eminem is being a dick for the way he is handling proof's music ?

coz think of it so far

- he hasnt kept iron first (proof's record company) alive
- he has released one disrespectful song (pistol poppin)
- he also let the track "murder murder" on re-up witch is also disrespectful

im also guessing that proofs album will be released of shady records right ? (eminem pockets the profit if it is)

again im guessing that eminem is the core source behind the movie (witch eminem profits money from)

i may be wrong with the last 2 points, but the fact he would rather spit a verse about pistol poppin and even mention proof in that verse before he has spat a verse in memory of his best freind is just...odly strange to me

the reason i think this is strange is if it was the other way about i could see proof taking control of shady (in a sense) and making sure eminem's unreleased stuff got out and make sure shady records didnt die ya know

and everyone knows eminem has enough money were he could have pumped a couple of million into Iron fist and kept it alive even made it better, hire a couple of people to help run it, promote the artists that were on it even more..he has the power to do that, but he didnt

anywae whats all ya'll thoughts ?

[slim sherif]

I agree with you about the "pistol poppin" thing and how that was so inappropriate, but I dont agree with you about the part that eminem is just trying to make money out of proof cuz em doesnt need that money and he did help proof's family with money through the T-shirt selling thing and I simply think that he loves him so much that he would never do something like that.

[AspirinE]

Well as far as iron fist goes... do note that Eminem doesn't control anything, there are CEO's in the offices that control labels and make Artists an authority figure symbols for posters. Iron fist is not related to Shady records in no way and i believe i read that iron fist is having an argument with the shadyrecords team.

Not right, but not too one sided either, i wouldn't throw out blames on people.


As for tracks, they just doing business, thats what hip hop is today and the management demands shit like that from them, but they not man enough to sacrifice management of major record label for freedom of expression in a smaller indie label.


not disrespect, but still bad decisions, which i myself don't fully condone but at the same time don't give a fuck about, it's his friend and his life, i know if my friend died like that I'd do shit differently.

[slimtrop1]

I think maybe putting pistol poppin' in the album was a lil bit innapropiate...However, we as fans know how Eminem goescrazy sometimes. Also a lot of the songsfrom D12 and Eminem himself are dedicated to guns...So I think he just wanted to show people that he stills thinks the same, even when his best friend got kill.

[deon]

eminems saving all his good shyt for his album... if anyone in the rap game can capture as much emotion on a track then em can then...they' be a genius 2....so jus shut up and wait for the em cd in november

Like hes gona waste a good track dedicated to proof on someone else's record.. it'd mean more if he put it on his own record..which i know hes going 2 do and in pistol poppin... that was cashis's rhymes about the pistol...eminems talkin about 2 friends being shot at one died(r.i.p proof) and he said he doesnt wanna be in beef no more..he jus wants all the bubble gum rappers like benzino n all those pussies 2 keep his name out their mouth...

[Nick419]

i dont see how pistol poppin is disrespectful at all cause em's verse is the complete opposite of Cashis's. Em's verse is talkin about how hes tired of the beef and now a days everybodys got guns. He even says before the chorus " just dont wanna see anymore /pistol poppin"...Also Em has no control what so ever over Iron Fist and for all we kno maybe he did give them money.

[Tomega]

die

[joelle]

How is he being a dick?
Would Proof want Em's whole career/life/music to be consumed with the loss of Proof? Honestly, I think it's best Eminem not dwell on Proof's death. It doesn't mean he isn't mourning, it doesn't mean he doesn't miss him, but he's probably blocking a lot of it out, in ways. If he did stop rapping about guns completely, I'm sure people would be calling him a sell out. Like, guns aren't taboo, until his friend gets shot?..that's not right either. Eminem lost a main influence in his life, and no one can tell him how to handle that..

[Tash8]

well, I just want him to release an amazing ill song for the memory of proof.. That will shut me up and probably will shut all of us up.. but at this rate, eminem gonna be one of the worst in the rap game.

[KeeLo]

i totally DIS AGREE, em is not using proof to make money out of him proof was ems BEST frend and he is not being disrespectful to him at all he misses him like shit and is using his rhymes to express this

[yoshi]

well to be honest.. Proof's his friend and it's his life. why should he keep Iron First? he's got his own business and if he had taken Iron Fist over, people would prolly say that he's tryin to get some profits from Proof's death. yes, they would - just think about it.


and to be honest, i don't really care about the songs. obviously Eminem, as Proof's friend, didn't find them offensive or disrespectful in any way, so he released them.

just let him do what he wants to do, it's his friend, his life, his business.

[twistx3m]

Eminem did not made nothin for his very best friend

[darealslimzlady]

well to be honest.. Proof's his friend and it's his life. why should he keep Iron First? he's got his own business and if he had taken Iron Fist over, people would prolly say that he's tryin to get some profits from Proof's death. yes, they would - just think about it.


and to be honest, i don't really care about the songs. obviously Eminem, as Proof's friend, didn't find them offensive or disrespectful in any way, so he released them.

just let him do what he wants to do, it's his friend, his life, his business.

I agree with that, especially first part.

Em obviously doesnt think he's bein offensive or disrespectful or whatever the hell you wanna say bout it. Alot of rappers only rap bout guns etc. Ems rapped bout guns in the past, why should he stop now. He shouldnt just dwell on the one subject of Proof. He probably wants to put all that shit behind him. It was a bad thing that happened. And just because he puts it behind him don't mean he's stopped caring about it. Also he mentions how he misses proof in the song too.

I don't think he's bein disrespectful at all. And I think ya'll are just lookin real deep into it. It's one song by an up and coming artist. Damn!

[Kez]

Maybe he just dosen't give a shit about Iron Fist?

Just because it's Proof's label dosen't mean Eminem had anything to do with it.

And yeah i do think him still making songs about murder and shit is inappropriate, but i don't think he should be forced to stop doing what he wants because of the arsehole who shot Proof. I don't think it's neccessarily disrespectful to Proof (these songs).

[SajN]

well to be honest.. Proof's his friend and it's his life. why should he keep Iron First? he's got his own business and if he had taken Iron Fist over, people would prolly say that he's tryin to get some profits from Proof's death. yes, they would - just think about it.


and to be honest, i don't really care about the songs. obviously Eminem, as Proof's friend, didn't find them offensive or disrespectful in any way, so he released them.

just let him do what he wants to do, it's his friend, his life, his business.

I agree with that, especially first part.

Em obviously doesnt think he's bein offensive or disrespectful or whatever the hell you wanna say bout it. Alot of rappers only rap bout guns etc. Ems rapped bout guns in the past, why should he stop now. He shouldnt just dwell on the one subject of Proof. He probably wants to put all that shit behind him. It was a bad thing that happened. And just because he puts it behind him don't mean he's stopped caring about it. Also he mentions how he misses proof in the song too.

I don't think he's bein disrespectful at all. And I think ya'll are just lookin real deep into it. It's one song by an up and coming artist. Damn!

I agree with both of you...
Couldn't agree more!