Gay naturally or Gay by choice?

[Golden]

And u know that cuz? U have alot off experience with kids? You can clearly see there personality allready at 5/6/7.And maybe they don`t undrstand whats wrong or right., and alot off `em changes when they get older.

I don`t know how meny gay people u know? But i can say that every gay people i know that they didn`t choose to bee gay. And why would they lie about that? Why would proud gay people lie about choosing it? I can agree with u that prob. is something in the head.But nobody can proove it.And it`s natural. In my opinon atleast. It`s the same with retared people, they are different, hell yeah, but i think its natural in the way that i think it`s great theyre alive.And they have the same rights as any other person.Whats so fucking great with a world that everybody are the same?


So in ur opinon everbody is metally unstable? or what? u mean women shouldn`t work? I din`t fully understand that...And does Gay animals i was talking about ain`t in captive. Maybe somethings wrong with `em both u can`t blame it on that.

agreeing that its a metal disorder MAYBE. But we don`t know that. and if its is, then they still are human beeings just like retarted people! and alot off them actually got gene faults.
And still thinkin` it`s normal.I


Yeah..but u didn`t anwer what i asked..u said that that was the only reason gay people kill `em self cuz the regrett choosing to bee gay.My only point is that u can`t pretend to know what everyboy goes true/Thinks and so on

Nobody knows if they are born with it, just like they didn`t know with autisme for 5-10 years ago.But now they know.

I know I`m a little to intrested in shitt like this, hehe..i`ts just that i like knowing weird things..

Don`t know about that..never heard off a gay dog..

Ok. I don`t know..it was a hell lot off people anyways. and all kinds off people..young,old,,yeah,,
They didn`t look like skinheads anyways..but don`t know if they look like they used to?

Haha..don`t know about that..13 and willing to..strange thing do..we have a famous bisex adovocate that were saying he had sex with older men when he was 12 and loved it, But personally i think thats fucked up.But in the way that 13 year old kids don`t know whats best for em.


"Homosexuality falls in the same category of psychiatric disorder as pedophilia, necrophilia, zoophilia. An unnatural fetish. I can also argue that pedophiles can be pedophiles at age 6.. just like u did for gay people." Didn`t understand all words..but my point is this pedo people do thing to children, and most often they don`t want to, and if the kids want to, they often end up having a hell lot off problems later on in life.necrophilia people have sex with persons who can`t say if they want to or not. Don`t no much about that..they dig up people or what? thats clearly wrong

But two persons that mean they love eactother and are both grown up, Why is that so sick? Just cuz they do stuff in bed we dont like?

And what about unfaithful people? Meny poeple say that`s sick and thats wrong..but if u look back in time, thats the most normal thing. Men spreeding there seed..heh..
anyways. sorry for my fucked up english.

[AspirinE]

And u know that cuz? U have alot off experience with kids? You can clearly see there personality allready at 5/6/7.And maybe they don`t undrstand whats wrong or right., and alot off `em changes when they get older.

Personality at 6 years old =/= sexuality at 6 years old. Period. Hormonal development is not finished at that period. Sexuality is a natural gift from mother nature. Personality is developed from the people around them.

I don`t know how meny gay people u know? But i can say that every gay people i know that they didn`t choose to bee gay. And why would they lie about that? Why would proud gay people lie about choosing it?

Because they want to be sexually perverted and exploit the kindred of ultra-liberals. What they say about them being born like that is of no matter, since if they are have a sexuality confusing mental disorder they won't understand it themselves.

I can agree with u that prob. is something in the head.But nobody can proove it.And it`s natural. In my opinon atleast. It`s the same with retared people, they are different, hell yeah, but i think its natural in the way that i think it`s great theyre alive.And they have the same rights as any other person.Whats so fucking great with a world that everybody are the same?

I love the world were everybody is the same, but im not letting a retard adopt my kid for example. I can honestly say that it is of no matter to me what they turned out to be in their confusion, but i argue that its not a natural thing from prospective sociology. To some degree everything in this world is natural, but homosexuality tends to be a choice or outcome of societies morals. Its not genetic, i think most will agree with me on that, then its the way u see the world, naturally im implying that society can be morally ill enough to have influenced homosexuality in society, because they cut out a natural goal.

Even if societies do become immoral(once again i clarify that im saying "immoral" from the perspective of natural selection.), i don't consider it to be "evil", it just takes time to balance out. In this millenium in many countries we almost eliminated the need for war thus somewhat demoralizing our instincts... the outcome - an outbreak of phsychological disorders, that next generations are bound to adopt to and will find a new reason to continue existance.

So in ur opinon everbody is metally unstable? or what? u mean women shouldn`t work? I din`t fully understand that...And does Gay animals i was talking about ain`t in captive. Maybe somethings wrong with `em both u can`t blame it on that.

Well as far as women go, i believe they are equal to man in all aspects as I am socialist, but i wouldnt want women to go to war or threaten their own life as they are mothers of children, but its up to them.

There is no such thing as "gay animals" if there are ones that ocasionally do some dumb shit like dryhumping another male dog for example- its coz of sexual frustration, not all dogs have the freedom to run around and select sexual partners.

agreeing that its a metal disorder MAYBE. But we don`t know that. and if its is, then they still are human beeings just like retarted people! and alot off them actually got gene faults.
And still thinkin` it`s normal.I

i replied to a similar question earlier.

Yeah..but u didn`t anwer what i asked..u said that that was the only reason gay people kill `em self cuz the regrett choosing to bee gay.My only point is that u can`t pretend to know what everyboy goes true/Thinks and so on

Then how do you know a person killed themselves because he was gay? and even that he was born gay and couldnt live with the fact that he was "born gay". He could have been normal and then became mentaly unbalanced.. thats all im implying, that the reason could be abstract.

Nobody knows if they are born with it, just like they didn`t know with autisme for 5-10 years ago.But now they know.

I don't discriminate challenged people. Outism has distinct genetic traces i suppose and it affects a person physically. Homosexuality is a mental state, the person is healthy but has obscure mentality i suppose... so it seems to me at least... this is my opinion of course since we're just discussing.

Ok. I don`t know..it was a hell lot off people anyways. and all kinds off people..young,old,,yeah,,
They didn`t look like skinheads anyways..but don`t know if they look like they used to?

jeans or army pants, black jackets, shaved or short haircut or with hats.. best way to describe them, they are very violent and populant in cities like St. Petersburg and Moscow, they are basically the the the replacement to gang scum in modern day russia, especially with all this ideology change that confuses dumb kids that refuse to get an education.

Haha..don`t know about that..13 and willing to..strange thing do..we have a famous bisex adovocate that were saying he had sex with older men when he was 12 and loved it, But personally i think thats fucked up.But in the way that 13 year old kids don`t know whats best for em.

Well here u have my argument, im merely saying that a kid who might think they 'like'
the same sex might end up liking the same sex in that cofusing period of hormonal "attacks" if he is led to believe it is what he's supposed to do.

Didn`t understand all words..but my point is this pedo people do thing to children, and most often they don`t want to, and if the kids want to, they often end up having a hell lot off problems later on in life.necrophilia people have sex with persons who can`t say if they want to or not. Don`t no much about that..they dig up people or what? thats clearly wrong

Im not saying they are right, just bringing examples, but those people are categorized as mentally ill by many and homosexuality is given a green light. thats all im saying, today its gay people, in the next generations the pedophiles will tell us they are normal too an deserve rights.

But two persons that mean they love eactother and are both grown up, Why is that so sick? Just cuz they do stuff in bed we dont like?

its sick to me, coz their relationship ain't going no where, they cant continue species. If they did have such a relationship i wouldnt arrest them for that, its there problem. But no adoption lol.

And what about unfaithful people? Meny poeple say that`s sick and thats wrong..but if u look back in time, thats the most normal thing. Men spreeding there seed..heh..
anyways. sorry for my fucked up english.

Unfaithfullness is natural selection in action, the female or male will always want a better man by instinct. Cruel, uncool, but thats why we men have to work and support our women so feel the appreciation and need for us.

And dont worry about the english man, always like a good debate no matter how bad the english

[Golden]

I never said they knew there sexuality at 6 years old, but i said that they can be feminin and maskulin allready when theyre so young, some off the feminin boys end up gay some dont. Understand what I am trying to say?
But meny mental disorders are there from they were born, so if beeing gay is a mental disorder, why cant they bee born like that?


Ok. But i still think we know too little about genes and the human brain in general to just say it`s not that or this..feel me?
And i still don`t get how people raist in the same inviorment and stuff can turn out to bee so different?No offcourse u wouldn`t let a retard adoupt ur kid. In a "perfect" wordl it wouldn`t be kids to be adopted.

But thats like people thought about retarted people before..if i got ur opinon right..can u try to put in in a easier way?
"Even if societies do become immoral(once again i clarify that im saying "immoral" from the perspective of natural selection.), i don't consider it to be "evil", it just takes time to balance out. In this millenium in many countries we almost eliminated the need for war thus somewhat demoralizing our instincts... the outcome - an outbreak of phsychological disorders, that next generations are bound to adopt to and will find a new reason to continue existance. "

Ok. I understand, and agree with u fully there, but think about the wayes the treat women before, look back..and how meny people ment that the world would go under if women would be equal too men.


Wrong.Don`t remember were or what i was. But they were gay. I think it was dolpfhins or somethin.
Anyways..don`t know too much about it..i can try to find it.


Yeah offcourse, my point exactly. I didn`t meen that i have all the answeres i just think it`s wrong, and unfair to say that the only reason u hate ur self cuz u choose to be gay,.
sure..we don`t know if it`s the truth..that they killed em self cuz they were born gay, But the statitc says it cleraly..a hell lot off gay people have tryed to commit suicideAnd it`s a huge diffrence to be mentally unstable and have a disorder

A..autisme hasn`t anything to do with genes like downs, Its all in the brain. And autisme can be so diffrent. some people are normal in all ways exept from having relationships with other people, They don`t know how, And others are retarede..in the way..less smart then others..cant dress em self, cant talk ect.
I could go on about that shit forever.(I`ts my job) But its a little off topic.hehe


Ok. look just like they just to here.But does people look pretty normal to me. But prob some/alot off em were skinheads.

So in ur opinon what do u think a parent should do if they think theyre 14 old kid is gay?


Well thats the same argument they used when Black people were standing upp for themself.


Ok. so a couple who choose not to have kids are sick? just cuz they dont wanne continue the species?
Ok. That adoption shitt is complycated.In my opinon..if it suppose to be like that,,then treat everybody the same. Dumb people, dont get to have kid, junkies,people with desisces that there kids can have shouldn`t have kids, people who can`t hear shouldn`t have kids, people living in wars ect. Theres alot more worse stuff going on then that. All does people having kids that don`t desurve it..
Like i said. In and ideal world it wouldn`t be kids to adopt.

My opinon about unfaithfull people..uhm..u see..before..way back..men didn`t have only one women, the had sex with everybody they could to procreate(?)Like meny animals are today..and now a days that looked uopen ass a action..a chooice..u see what i meen?

Thanks. Yeah me to

[AspirinE]

I never said they knew there sexuality at 6 years old, but i said that they can be feminin and maskulin allready when theyre so young, some off the feminin boys end up gay some dont. Understand what I am trying to say?
But meny mental disorders are there from they were born, so if beeing gay is a mental disorder, why cant they bee born like that?

1) u cant determine IN NO way at age 6 if the child is going to be gay, they have no interests in sexuality at that point, them acting masculin or feminine is a there characteristics given from there parents.

2)Mental disorders are inherited or caused by something, homosexuality is not a physical preference, ur body is not gay, not until u suddenly grow ovaries and a vagina out of the blue. If they were born like that it would be even worse for the homosexuals especially if the reasons are found, it will be considered a desease and it would be treated.

Ok. But i still think we know too little about genes and the human brain in general to just say it`s not that or this..feel me?

indeed, but consider logic. What purpose does being gay serve to ur natural survival? None really, ur basically sick from natures point of view...It just makes more sense that this is a mental disorder caused by mixed society.

And i still don`t get how people raist in the same inviorment and stuff can turn out to bee so different?

Even twins have different characters since each man on this planet perceives everything in abstract. They can act according to what they learn in their own way.

Ok. I understand, and agree with u fully there, but think about the wayes the treat women before, look back..and how meny people ment that the world would go under if women would be equal too men.

But homosexuals are not a sex or gender they are confused with there sexuality if anything. What is it they have to prove?

If u are flaming homosexual with an in your face "i love cock and im proud of it" attitude, and i know many will admitt that homosexuals are very flamboyant... who will hire em? why are they insisting that they have to have same rights wen they are so desperate to be different?
I think its kind of ridiculous when they draw a line trying to connect homosexuality with race or sex.

Wrong.Don`t remember were or what i was. But they were gay. I think it was dolpfhins or somethin.
Anyways..don`t know too much about it..i can try to find it.

Just coz someone scientist said they are gay doesnt mean the are, since u still cant prove homosexuality to be natural sexual preference.

Yeah offcourse, my point exactly. I didn`t meen that i have all the answeres i just think it`s wrong, and unfair to say that the only reason u hate ur self cuz u choose to be gay,.
sure..we don`t know if it`s the truth..that they killed em self cuz they were born gay, But the statitc says it cleraly..a hell lot off gay people have tryed to commit suicideAnd it`s a huge diffrence to be mentally unstable and have a disorder

A lot of people with paranoia tried to commit suicide to. It in no ways relates to the naturality of homosexuality, infact if it was natural humans wouldnt be depressed about being such and others wouldnt keep away from them.

A..autisme hasn`t anything to do with genes like downs, Its all in the brain. And autisme can be so diffrent. some people are normal in all ways exept from having relationships with other people, They don`t know how, And others are retarede..in the way..less smart then others..cant dress em self, cant talk ect.
I could go on about that shit forever.(I`ts my job) But its a little off topic.hehe

Its all in the brain, but when a child is born with Down's for example, you know it right away. Homosexulity? im not convinced that 6 years olds for example can have a homosexuality preset before they know what sexuality is.

Ok. look just like they just to here.But does people look pretty normal to me. But prob some/alot off em were skinheads.

So in ur opinon what do u think a parent should do if they think theyre 14 old kid is gay?

Their 14 year old cant be gay in my opinion. if they chose that trend at such an earl age its up to them. Im not arguing for a "solution" to homosexuality, for all i care, its more women for me and better yet more bisexual women .. but adoption... nah.. i wouldnt let them. There are some values that deserve some conservatism(with exclusion of bullshit bible teachings), like Parenting.

Well thats the same argument they used when Black people were standing upp for themself.

Black people didnt choose their color. for the matter Black people are even more natural then us white people. Homosexuals are not a race or a sex. If we give homosexuals are green light we might as well let people fuck animals too, coz u know... they might "have real feelings for them".

Ok. so a couple who choose not to have kids are sick? just cuz they dont wanne continue the species?

Are u saying that theres a higher reason in life than to have kids? Im talking animal level here, coz u do believe we are just as much animals as other creatures dont you? unless ofcourse ur a christian .

Ok. That adoption shitt is complycated.In my opinon..if it suppose to be like that,,then treat everybody the same. Dumb people, dont get to have kid, junkies,people with desisces that there kids can have shouldn`t have kids, people who can`t hear shouldn`t have kids, people living in wars ect.
Theres alot more worse stuff going on then that. All does people having kids that don`t desurve it..
Like i said. In and ideal world it wouldn`t be kids to adopt.

I explained my view in the adoption thread.

My opinon about unfaithfull people..uhm..u see..before..way back..men didn`t have only one women, the had sex with everybody they could to procreate(?)Like meny animals are today..and now a days that looked uopen ass a action..a chooice..u see what i meen?

But most of us still do have more than one sexual partner in our lives If u look at it from a right direction we are as much animals as we use to be, only we are plagued with a sickness of intelligence.

[Golden]

6 years old have very much intrest in theyre own sexuality. They "play" with them self and other kids.You can`t see if theyre gay, but u can see if they are masculin or feminin. And u can`t keep saying that theyre character is all parents "fault" yeah they have alot influence but not that much.And if u talk too parents some can say they thought they were gay allready at that age..but u prob gonne blame it on them again..hehe


Right now the propblem is too meny people, so why not have gay people rather then other things too keep population down

Now..ur arguing aganinst what u said..u say it` the parents that decide theyre character and now u saying it`s the kids that termin how they are


Now thats the propblem right there. People who are hidebound(?) they think that all gay people are the ones that act like girls and have that attitude ur saying, but they would be suprised if they knew how meny gay people that arn`t like that at all. In fact it`s alot more off the "normal" gay then the princess gay people. It`s just that we don`t see `em!

Well. i found somthing else, the zoologist museum here had a display about Gay animals. I`ll try to translate it:
Interwiev..
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[AspirinE]

6 years old have very much intrest in theyre own sexuality. They "play" with them self and other kids.You can`t see if theyre gay, but u can see if they are masculin or feminin. And u can`t keep saying that theyre character is all parents "fault" yeah they have alot influence but not that much.And if u talk too parents some can say they thought they were gay allready at that age..but u prob gonne blame it on them again..hehe

Masculine and feminine? u cannot, since at that age they are not fully developed.. i can repeat that as many times as needed.

Right now the propblem is too meny people, so why not have gay people rather then other things too keep population down

Why not use condoms and teach ur daughters about fucking at 16 and Fixing poverty. Better solution.

Now..ur arguing aganinst what u said..u say it` the parents that decide theyre character and now u saying it`s the kids that termin how they are

Both do.

Now thats the propblem right there. People who are hidebound(?) they think that all gay people are the ones that act like girls and have that attitude ur saying, but they would be suprised if they knew how meny gay people that arn`t like that at all. In fact it`s alot more off the "normal" gay then the princess gay people. It`s just that we don`t see `em!

Just like we dont see pedophiles.

Well. i found somthing else, the zoologist museum here had a display about Gay animals. I`ll try to translate it:
Interwiev..
S

[Golden]

you said that black and gay weren`t the same:
I`m not saying it`s the same..im just giving u facts about peoples argument and opinons.( from earlier days)
you said black people didn`t choose to be black:
And you don`t know if they choose to bee gay.If they don`t then it`s the same thing.
you said that fucking animals would bee the next thing cuz the love animals or somethin:
Then again. Animals don`t know how to say no and maybe they don`t understad whats happening..and they don`t Love the folks back..so thats not any good argument.


Ok. ur not getting my point on that. I said..for some post ago. That u can see theyre personality allready at that age, masculine ect. I did not say that they are like they are in the age off 6 and will stay that way.


Condems don`t always work.Kids don`t listen to theyre parents.

"Just like we dont see pedophiles."
I aint even gonne answer that


not 100% off all animals off that type off monkey.
Don`t know if its propoganda or not, but it would bee weird cuz our country arn`t famous fo that


No. u said if a it was normal to be gay then he wouldn`t bee depressed.Alot off gay people arn`t depressed.
I just argued that its normal to be depressed.

Hehe..my point ex. You cant say it`s NOT cuz u can`t prove it. And thats what they belived other thing were before. Like autsime. they belived it were the parents fault.
Look at what they know now.Science..we got a long way to go.
And for the pervert and attension seeking stuff, you should look at my answer in the other post. Want you don`t see.

Again..im not saying u should have a sullotion. im saying you said that it was the parents fault, that led them too belive they were gay. And im asking you, what would u do? do have a perfect balanced home? say it`s not natural? say he/she is sick? Be supportive? Don`t care?

And whats rights outta line? Too not be beatin up? Too get jobs? To live theyre lifes as they wanne? to live were the want to?To not be called perverts?

[AspirinE]

you said that black and gay weren`t the same:
I`m not saying it`s the same..im just giving u facts about peoples argument and opinons.( from earlier days)
you said black people didn`t choose to be black:
And you don`t know if they choose to bee gay.If they don`t then it`s the same thing.

Nope its not the same thing, black is color, homosexuality, naturall or not is a mental disorder.

you said that fucking animals would bee the next thing cuz the love animals or somethin:
Then again. Animals don`t know how to say no and maybe they don`t understad whats happening..and they don`t Love the folks back..so thats not any good argument.

There are people on this planet who legally married dolphins, u can argue anything that cannot be proven 100%.

Ok. ur not getting my point on that. I said..for some post ago. That u can see theyre personality allready at that age, masculine ect. I did not say that they are like they are in the age off 6 and will stay that way.

Masculinity and femininity is not a decisive factor for homosexuality. Just like guys with a babyface are no different from other men.

Condems don`t always work.Kids don`t listen to theyre parents.

They dont have to be 100% efficient. kids dont listen to their parents because the current laws restrict parenting. A few asswoppings with a belt at 13 and ull learn to abide ur parents. Many people have been through it and turned out to be better people.

"Just like we dont see pedophiles."
I aint even gonne answer that

Don't then.

not 100% off all animals off that type off monkey.
Don`t know if its propoganda or not, but it would bee weird cuz our country arn`t famous fo that

Its not a country, its pseudo scientists, that make up bullshit propaganda. "Creation scientists" call themselves scientists too, but they are utterly retarded and believe in a cult, taken the word of some book literally.

No. u said if a it was normal to be gay then he wouldn`t bee depressed.Alot off gay people arn`t depressed.
I just argued that its normal to be depressed.

But u said a lot of them commit suicides?

Hehe..my point ex. You cant say it`s NOT cuz u can`t prove it. And thats what they belived other thing were before. Like autsime. they belived it were the parents fault.
Look at what they know now.Science..we got a long way to go.
And for the pervert and attension seeking stuff, you should look at my answer in the other post. Want you don`t see.

Fetishes are pervertedness. Sticking a dick in ur ass is not normal, its even harmful. Its a fetish gone popular. And if u wanna tell me that gay people "love" each other .. u gonna have to prove that theirs other motivation to love then making children.

Again..im not saying u should have a sullotion. im saying you said that it was the parents fault, that led them too belive they were gay. And im asking you, what would u do? do have a perfect balanced home? say it`s not natural? say he/she is sick? Be supportive? Don`t care?

Support from parents and rehabilitation. Im from a poor background of a single mother parent that died when i was 8, many people get imbalanced by their life, including me, ive had my share of treatment and i know how to control my own emotions, depressed homosexuals who want to be perverts should learn to deal withthemselves too. No they are not gonna have kids, so they should stop asking or adoptions, they should learn to love women, they can, i they dont they can do wat they want but there mental sickness should not aect others.

And whats rights outta line? Too not be beatin up? Too get jobs? To live theyre lifes as they wanne? to live were the want to?To not be called perverts?

Get jobs, stop being something they are not (women), and get treatment from there perverted fantasies, the same kind o treatment pedophiles would get.

[hotcopper]

Homosexuality hasn't been considered a mental health disorder for quite some time- it was removed as a mental health diagnosis in the 1970's I think. I don't think that it was removed because of any sort of political pressure or social policy- if homosexuals had that kind of political clout the issue of gay marriage and adoption by gay couples would be moot issues by now- it was removed because the academic research into homosexuality didn't find any support for the notion that it was deviant behavior that needed to be treated.

I'm not completely familiar with the academic literature regarding any possible correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia- a pedophile will usually have a preference for gender and age for their victim but I don't think that their sexual orientation dictates that choice. Some male pedophiles who choose boys as their victims will be able to maintain an otherwise healthy, heterosexual relationship- that relationship may be a long standing, fully committed relationship; the pedophile may even have children of his own who may or may not become his victims. Pedophiles are made- they don't choose to molest children; usually they were molested themselves and use that experience as their pattern when they begin to victimize children.

Personally, I think that homosexuals should have all the rights and privileges that heterosexuals do. My personal observation is that because of ignorance regarding the homosexual lifestyle, social stigma has been attached to it, so no one would choose to be a homosexual. They have to face the possibility of discrimination in their community, on their job, and from their family, and serious physical harm simply because of who and what they are- i don't think anyone would choose to face that every day.

Again this is personal observation but homosexual couples seem to be more monogamous than heterosexual couples- once they settle down with someone they stay in it for the long haul. This could be because of circumstances, lack of opportunity, etc, or it could be because they have to consider their choice in partner more carefully so they put more time and thought into it. They also seem to be more financially and emotionally stable than heterosexual couples.

Bottom line . . . a person is born homosexual, they usually know their sexual orientation by the time they are in their early teens the same way a heterosexual person knows.

Bisexuality is the sexual lifestyle that is chosen- there's nothing perverted or deviant about that either

[AspirinE]

Homosexuality hasn't been considered a mental health disorder for quite some time- it was removed as a mental health diagnosis in the 1970's I think. I don't think that it was removed because of any sort of political pressure or social policy- if homosexuals had that kind of political clout the issue of gay marriage and adoption by gay couples would be moot issues by now- it was removed because the academic research into homosexuality didn't find any support for the notion that it was deviant behavior that needed to be treated.

Its not considered a mental disorder because of social pressure, there would be ultra-liberals pressing buttons if anyone ever even expressed a different opinion.

I'm not completely familiar with the academic literature regarding any possible correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia- a pedophile will usually have a preference for gender and age for their victim but I don't think that their sexual orientation dictates that choice. Some male pedophiles who choose boys as their victims will be able to maintain an otherwise healthy, heterosexual relationship- that relationship may be a long standing, fully committed relationship; the pedophile may even have children of his own who may or may not become his victims. Pedophiles are made- they don't choose to molest children; usually they were molested themselves and use that experience as their pattern when they begin to victimize children.

Are you kidding me? No pattern? Pedophilia is a chosen sexual fetish for children, because they "like them better" just like homosexuals like same sex better. It doesnt matter what the pedo's are and why they are worse then homosexuals, the bottom line is both of them are a chosen fetish and one could are that its a mental disorder.

Personally, I think that homosexuals should have all the rights and privileges that heterosexuals do. My personal observation is that because of ignorance regarding the homosexual lifestyle, social stigma has been attached to it, so no one would choose to be a homosexual. They have to face the possibility of discrimination in their community, on their job, and from their family, and serious physical harm simply because of who and what they are- i don't think anyone would choose to face that every day.

Homosexuals should get all their civilian rights, but they should not have adoption rights since they are not a healthy parenting combination.

Again this is personal observation but homosexual couples seem to be more monogamous than heterosexual couples- once they settle down with someone they stay in it for the long haul. This could be because of circumstances, lack of opportunity, etc, or it could be because they have to consider their choice in partner more carefully so they put more time and thought into it. They also seem to be more financially and emotionally stable than heterosexual couples.

Well thats just your observation, my observation is they cant find enough fags to choose from, so now they try to induce their flamboyancy and "culture" other people so they have more homosexuals to choose from later.

Bottom line . . . a person is born homosexual, they usually know their sexual orientation by the time they are in their early teens the same way a heterosexual person knows.

Proof? You are making statements like... "born homosexual" , but then u see so many people in this world choosing to be homosexual, then people also say that pedophiles know what they are doing and they choose to be what they are due to their fucked up childhood and pervertedness, but homosexuality ... no... ummm ok.

Bisexuality is the sexual lifestyle that is chosen- there's nothing perverted or deviant about that either

Theres nothing normal about it either.

[Kojack]

Fucking a man is the most Disgusting thing
Fucking a woman is the most Exciting(only in the first time) and Natural thing

When you see a man/woman with the down's syndrome you say he/she borned with that problem
When you see a Gay/Lesbia you should say the same thing

Being Gay/Lesbia is exactly the same thing like Being......... a human with the down's syndrome

I'm not a Ratcist, i just say my opinion they are people too and they deserve to live..................................................................................................................................................................i mean the people with Down's Syndrome

Gay People Let them die from starving