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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jun 21st, '07, 15:51

signed cashis

signed creekwater

created encore

fucked over royce

pistol poppin verse (i still hold it disrespectful to proof)

favoruing some artists over other on shady records(he dont put enough work into obie)

trying to be from the south

having 80% of the re-up being shitty music but thinking it was of such a high standard it had to be released commercialy as a album (money grabbing motherfucking whore)

forgetting what he was and turning into a sell out


i think im done :y:
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby Nick419 » Jun 21st, '07, 15:58

u guys may think 50's a mistake but business wise it was probably the best and you guys are retarded if you dont see that. Em made millions off 50's first album along with the massacre. i dont like 50 that much anymore either but fuck thats one of his greatest career moves in my opinion. (and yes i am aware of how 50's been dropping wack tracks but money's money :y: ) and no i'm not saying he was good for hip hop or that the music is about making money but i'm speaking in BUSINESS terms...and i love royce but he couldn't pull in numbers like that i'm sorry. i think he'd be successful by obie trice standards but thats it. Unless em and royce restarted "bad meets evil" then it would sell cause people would only buy it to hear Em which is fucked up but the truth.
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby aleXander » Jun 21st, '07, 16:12

I'll concentrate on the good things he done. :D ;) Won't critic him. :happy:

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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jun 21st, '07, 16:17

eminemfan419 wrote:u guys may think 50's a mistake but business wise it was probably the best and you guys are retarded if you dont see that. Em made millions off 50's first album along with the massacre. i dont like 50 that much anymore either but fuck thats one of his greatest career moves in my opinion. (and yes i am aware of how 50's been dropping wack tracks but money's money :y: ) and no i'm not saying he was good for hip hop or that the music is about making money but i'm speaking in BUSINESS terms...and i love royce but he couldn't pull in numbers like that i'm sorry. i think he'd be successful by obie trice standards but thats it. Unless em and royce restarted "bad meets evil" then it would sell cause people would only buy it to hear Em which is fucked up but the truth.



if eminem put the time and money into obie as he did into 50 cent, then obie could sell the same numbers, if eminem put in the time and money into Royce as he put into 50 cent, royce could pull in then numbers with great hip hop music and not shitty club songs :y:
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby Nick419 » Jun 21st, '07, 16:29

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eminemfan419 wrote:u guys may think 50's a mistake but business wise it was probably the best and you guys are retarded if you dont see that. Em made millions off 50's first album along with the massacre. i dont like 50 that much anymore either but fuck thats one of his greatest career moves in my opinion. (and yes i am aware of how 50's been dropping wack tracks but money's money :y: ) and no i'm not saying he was good for hip hop or that the music is about making money but i'm speaking in BUSINESS terms...and i love royce but he couldn't pull in numbers like that i'm sorry. i think he'd be successful by obie trice standards but thats it. Unless em and royce restarted "bad meets evil" then it would sell cause people would only buy it to hear Em which is fucked up but the truth.



if eminem put the time and money into obie as he did into 50 cent, then obie could sell the same numbers, if eminem put in the time and money into Royce as he put into 50 cent, royce could pull in then numbers with great hip hop music and not shitty club songs :y:

not exactly, yes true they may pull in more numbers with more time,money,etc. but the truth is the majority of hip-hop litseners these days are litsening to club songs. We cant control that its just the truth. When u turn on MTV or BET what kind of rap vids do u see most? club songs. what do u hear being played on the radio? club songs.......its more of OUR fault as fans then the actual artists. cause if we keep buying shit like that more will come. cause if the artist see's what hes doing is workin then hes going to continue that method or style of music.
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby AspirinE » Jun 21st, '07, 16:37

u guys
may think 50's a mistake but business wise it was probably the best and you guys are retarded if you dont see that.

The only people that are retarded are the people putting money in eminems and the monkeys pocket by listning to trash music.


Em made millions off 50's first album along with the massacre. i dont like 50 that much anymore either but fuck thats one of his greatest career moves in my opinion. (and yes i am aware of how 50's been dropping wack tracks but money's money :y: ) and no i'm not saying he was good for hip hop or that the music is about making money but i'm speaking in BUSINESS terms...

The fuck do you do you care about there business? I mean really? Do you get a solid boner from seeing all the sexy sales charts.. *ohh ohh... ohh my god*

Stop being an idiot.
and i love royce but he couldn't pull in numbers like that i'm sorry. i think he'd be successful by obie trice standards but thats it. Unless em and royce restarted "bad meets evil" then it would sell cause people would only buy it to hear Em which is fucked up but the truth.

boo hoo, obie and royce wouldnt sell 10 million to dumb people who dont even like hip hop....

How would u know if royce wouldnt sell? 50 was eminems first protege and the eminem groupies jumped right on him coz they needed a monkey looking motherfucker who talks about guns, because they started listning to hip hop and they felt rebelious and "street" lol.

Royce has 10X the lyrical and musical skill fifty has, he'd sell, matter of fact if more rappers like royce were signed wack rappers that are now in the charts would have to big up they game or retire in all. Monkeys like 50 lower standarts..


wont sell lol.. . you all should really stop getting wet for record sales, record sales do nothing to the music, music has no price. If someone cant understand that then they obviously aint no music fans, industry puppets.
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby AspirinE » Jun 21st, '07, 16:44

not exactly, yes true they may pull in more numbers with more time,money,etc. but the truth is the majority of hip-hop litseners these days are litsening to club songs. We cant control that its just the truth.

"Club song" doesnt constitute a dumb ass track, there was party hip hop before you and i were born. Epmd shit rocks the parties better than 50 cent will ever, Rakim does too, Pete rock did too... but as hip hop is sold, you wont hear hip hop. "club songs" that are cheesy like they are now, are not hip hop, its stereotyped gibberish. And artists arnt artists no more so they arent doing shit to change it, buch of fucking sellouts.


When u turn on MTV or BET what kind of rap vids do u see most? club songs. what do u hear being played on the radio? club songs.......

Mtv plays wat they want u and millions of other dumb americans to play.

its more of OUR fault as fans then the actual artists. cause if we keep buying shit like that more will come. cause if the artist see's what hes doing is workin then hes going to continue that method or style of music.

Its both partys fault.

Record companies dont let good rappers on top so they could get demand coz that would make their little pet-monkey-rappers with grills and brains the size of a peanut useless. In other words, music industry martial law.

people have no choice. The reason big artists sell is coz they have money, money to print cds and place 5000 of them in each store, the rest cant print that much or promote themselves, not that competing companies would want them too.

Hip Hop is not a business, its not a competion either.
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby Tash8 » Jun 21st, '07, 16:50

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i agree with you :) thanks for backing up a point that i made :p
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby shady_aftermathzz » Jun 21st, '07, 17:56

aleXander wrote:I'll concentrate on the good things he done. :D ;) Won't critic him. :happy:

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fair enough :D
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby DrRapid » Jun 21st, '07, 18:15

I don't give a shit about the fuck ups Eminem did but I just can't think about the fuck ups they are going to do
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby AspirinE » Jun 21st, '07, 21:42

@ Tru.

50 didnt breathe life into mainstream rap at that time, eminem did, and it was because 50 was eminems protege' in his golden age that he was famous. And nobody copies 50cent rhymewize, he was a one year fad, now being 50cent means ur a joke, rightfully so.

50 cent being a complete joke, makes shady/aftermath look worse, i dont see how he still is a positive thing rather than a fuck up. Turning hip hop into a clown show is not positive. I feel ashamed when somebody gets get introduced to a marvelous genre that is by essense creative through 50cent and that hip hop is frowned upon and stereotyped because of him. Kind of like the point that eminem fans always bring up against vanilla ice. That some people are still protecting that leech shit worth of a rapper monkey is beyond my understanding.

And i dont see how theres no rappers to be excited about.. :S you should check a few more artists that dont get mtv spots.
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby westpsyco » Jun 21st, '07, 21:50

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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby Lady_S » Jun 21st, '07, 22:11

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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby AspirinE » Jun 21st, '07, 22:21

said this excludes you :tounge2:

I respect ur opinion, but when my common sense alarm goes off and ive just finished smoking my cigarette, i cant resist but reply.

and what i said regarded the general public. like i've said, i don't think you liked 50 much to begin with, but the general public did. and you may be excited for new albums, but the general public doesn't feel that way. maybe downloading has to blame for that, but look at the charts, the general public doesn't seem to care about hip hop now. the last album that the general public were sorta excited for was jay z, and he turned out to be a disappointment to most people, did he not?

The charts dont reflect general public, BET has been exposed for setting up charts, MTV is without doubt doing it and always will be. Jayz disappointed coz he is not acting up to standart, because ironically during 3 years of total degeneration in hip hop community many see how rappers with money simply started slacking. The reason as to why people care less about hip hop now is also ... 50 cent the amazing rapping gorrilla, its eaten too many bananas and slacking while being king of the jungle charts.
critically, 50 can be argued about, but i stand by what i said about breathing new life into MAINSTREAM hip hop. you can't sell millions of records and have millions of people singing your song, and not make some sort of impact on MAINSTREAM hip hop, or MAINSTREAM music, in general.

The fuck is the difference between mainstream music and ordinary music? none, there should be none, when artists "breathe life into 'mainstream'" ... they fuck up music, thats not really impact that sheep hording. The term itself should be abolished it has destroyed creativity in general, when real musicians play in underground tunnels.

if you're talking about me specifically, i don't listen to much hip hop now, whether it's mainstream or underground. :sweating:

well, people who care for hip hop music music despise the impact of the likes of 50 cent, sometimes someones ultra fame really carries a lot of responsibility to the genre.
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Re: Lets List All Of Eminem's Fuck Ups

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jun 21st, '07, 22:24

@ tru, how can you debate about a artists effect on hip hop music when you just openly admitted you dont even listen to it :unsure:

so your basically saying your one of the thousands that got into hip hop coz of eminem and now dont listen to anything apart from him, half the shit you debated about in the past makes no sense now :unsure:
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