Mr. Porter & Eminem Haven't Spoken In Some Time

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mr porter sayed there was no input from eminem = eminem hasnt even been in the studio to talk about song concepts or anything

mr porter sayed he hasnt even spoke to eminem in months = eminem is basically ignoring d12

He's fucking busy on his own album, I'd rather he lay off D12 until his is done anyway if that's what it's gonna take for him to get full creativity back and create another class album.

well thats just selfish

[RoleModel]

Well not really it's not as if he's said he's not doing it. It's perfectly understandable if he's more concerned with his own album first, I would.

How can you call him selfish when he was the one who signed D12.

[darealslimzlady]

This really sucks. And I thought d12 was comin out before Em... I would prefer that cos it builds up to Em's stuff being released but whatever, either one is fine.

[AspirinE]

Just coz he didnt contact D12 for some months doesnt mean he's distancing himself. I havent seen my family in 2 years, doesnt mean i dont wanna be involved with them.

To be honest though i think the less eminem does for this album, the better for D12, The rest of the group needs their time to shine and they obviously are facing obstacles. Am not liking the delays though.

[$0 R3@L]

wouldnt it make sense for em to use the d12 album as a 'toe testing the water' soloution?

If they could drop another classic like Devils night or d12 world,the hype for em's album would do nothing but wonders for fans confidence in em and more importantly ems confidence in himself,which you tend to feel his lacking atm =/

[Tash8]

^ could work the essact op tho cos if he pulls the same shit as late then hes gunna lose more fans.

yea but he's working with d12, who i think will help him out... only proof was here he'd set em straight

[shady narcotics]

u guys all act like eminem owes u somthing wtf

[navysealkid14]

^Rofl great joke

Ca$his is better than everyone on shady or aftermath besides eminem and dre, fact

[4D]

I'd prefer hear a new Eminem album over a D12 one anyway. It's never gonna be the same without Proof, and would be enven worse without Eminem (Obie in or not). Eminem really needs to focus on releasing a great album. Which is made even harder by the fact that he knows it needs to be great. He has a lot more at stake than D12, if he rushes out an album by either himself or D12, and it's not up to par, his reputation might never recover from it. He could then go down the very slippery slope of failure.

Everyone knows the shit Eminem has been through in the last year or so, so cut him some slack. He hasn't stated that he's not gonna be on a new D12 album. So, just give it time, I would love a D12 album this year too, but not if EM's not gonna be on it, and not before an Eminem album.

Maybe Denaun and Eminem aren't that close. Eminem was always closer to Proof, and after the death of Proof, maybe there's not a lot for Eminem to be interested in. Maybe Eminem doesn't think there should be a D12 without Proof, if so, I tend to agree.

They should all go solo, fuck the group and take responsibility for themselves.

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you all just listen to D12 for eminem


thats bullshit groupie shit, whatever way you look at it


fact is D12 album is due to come out, D12 album has been known about for a year or so, everyone has been waiting on the D12 album, as soon as eminems album gets a hint the D12 album gets thrown out the window..thats bullshit

[Big Proof 4ever]

yeah u right there is a lot of people who listen d12 just because of em i am not one of them

[4D]

I`m not one of them either. But you can't take away the fact that Eminem and Proof are the two best rappers in the group, you take that away from any group, and it makes them bullshit. I know swifty is good, bizarre is weird and kuniva and Kon Artis aren't bad either. But, they're not interesting enough for me on their own. If you think they are maybe you're the fuckin D12 groupie, idiot.

[Big Proof 4ever]

i like then they sound like one unit..not solo artists

[4D]

^Idk da brigade and swifty stuff is pretty dope and bizzare formed a group (so not really solo but still same as brigade) is pretty dope

I`m not one of them either. But you can't take away the fact that Eminem and Proof are the two best rappers in the group, you take that away from any group, and it makes them bullshit. I know swifty is good, bizarre is weird and kuniva and Kon Artis aren't bad either. But, they're not interesting enough for me on their own. If you think they are maybe you're the fuckin D12 groupie, idiot.

i have to be 100% honest with you when this album first was talked about (proof still alive) they said they was gunna go for it without em. and that intrested me i thought they could pull it off and would show them as a great group on there own feet. but now proof is dead its lke im not really sure im looking foward to the album with or without em in it because proof always has seemed the flame that was keeping d12 d12 and im sure the group would tell u that to. but at the CURRENT stage eminem is at minus proof that leaves 3 pretty dope (when they put there all in) rappers and bizzare can be decent attimes. but idk its like a jigsaw with 2 peices missing the tracks seem unfinished without proof in once you know the whole foundation d12 was built on (One shot 2 shot,dont hate ft king gordy(new song)). and they have been missing ems creativeness for like 2 3 years now. Itss a pretty big double blow ad itd suprise me if they can carry a album themselves.

Yeah, good post man, everything you said makes sense. I remember it rumoured as an album without Eminem, but I wasn't a fan of that Idea, even though what you say is true about them finding their feet without Eminem, it would be cool to see. That idea would've probably worked with Proof, but without Eminem and Proof, it seems very unlikely. It would be very underground, and wouldn't sell very well, not that matters, but I bet it does to D12. They need Eminems fanbase to buy it for it to be a hit, but I also think they need Eminems songwriting skills to make it a good album. Swifty has a sick flow, and is a lyrically adept rapper, Bizarre has one of the coolest voices in hip-hop and one of the sickest minds, but lacks lyrical flair. Kon Artis is now an accomplished producer who has a pretty unique voice, and got some nice lyrical skills. Kuniva always seems to fade into obscurity on the albums, he just doesn't stand out enough, like the others. So there's Swifty, who's well worth a listen, Bizarre too, depending on your taste in hip-hop, Kon artis providing the dope beats and some nice verses, and Kuniva possibly getting some more limelight than usual (which would be good for him). I think it could work actually, but dunno if it would be given the go ahead without Eminem. I hope it would if Eminem is not gonna appear on it, but if it means waiting a while to have Eminem collaborate on the album, that my choice of how this should pan out.

[Big Proof 4ever]

thats fo sho