Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

[AspirinE]

i don't know, look it up. i just heard this on tv remember

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that's nice.

thanx

again, how would a single father be capable of raising a daughter? and i think we cna agree that a man doesn't see motherhood the same way a woman/mother can, and yet, single fathers and mothers raise their children okay.

A single father wouldnt be aloud to adopt, at least wouldve been considered a less likely candidate. Single fathers can and do often cause problems in a childs life, u saying that they grow up to be okay is u using the best case scenario.

having a child, and depriving them of any type of family is much more horrible on the child.

Gay people are not family.

gay people can't show emotion toward he other sex? no, they just don't show intimate emotions. just like a woman resenting men wouldn't either.

A woman resenting men doesnt happen that often for once and she still does show intimate emotions towards a man by hating him, for breaking her heart when she loved him so to speak.

one less alternative for children

Less children are given away for adoption.

a male (in this case, a single father) did.

A hetero male father is in any case a better parenting candidate then a gay person would be.

how do you know having gay parents DO create a stressful life?

not having a mother figure and a father figure... wanting to have a real mother and father, not two clowns actin like they want to be women... like it was mentioned here before.. hate at school...loads of reasons.

and personally, yes, i do know, because i know people that were raised by gay people or associated with gay people and they turned out okay.

okay, but they are still deprived of parenthood. And one u know does not mean all are like that.

denying gay rights doesn't close an option for women. it closes an option for children.

for both.

"every little bit helps." "one step at a time."

capitalism isn't going to end anytime soon, so aside from fighting that battle, why not adopt a few kids while we can? if anything, it's helping them, and certainly not hurting.

U wouldnt need to adopt there children, if companies like GAP didnt pay 3cents a day to women that work 36 hour shifts to make clothes, and company owners making millions. It is so much easier to prosecute immoral corporations given the unlimited freedom after the slaves were free (when the companies jump in and said that a company was legally a person) then to adopt and raise a child.

but there is a HUGE amount of children that should have families, and not all straight people want them.

Dont promote homosexuality in ur society and maybe more men and women will want to be real women.

... we're going in circles. and it also doesn't help that our views on gay people being natural or choice aren't the same, which kind of makes it irrelevant to be debating since our arguments can't really stand by one another.

and i'm just tired of talking about gay people, and "giving them more attention" . good day

Good, me too, but im too god damn stuborn to give u the last word lol

[Kojack]

NO!


im goin to get hated on for being homo-phobic...i aint but if you think i am so be it

i hate gay people, female lesbians or gay males....hate them

they arent gay there attention seekers, should a child have to get brought into a fucked up lifestyle like a gay relasionship because these fucked up individuals want a kid HELL NO!!

Yes i hate you too

Just kidding

I say no because if Gay/Lesbian people been allowed to adopt a child, the Child wouldn't take the right education, the education that He/She would take if it was adopted by a straight couple, He/She would take the education of a Gay/Lesbian, i mean He/She would be a Gay/Lesbian just because His/Her Fathers/Mothers are Gay/Lesbian

There's only one reason i don't hate Gay People
More Gays, More Women For the Straight people
I Say that 'cause a Gay Goes with men, if that person was straight he would go only with women
Now He is a Gay and i take his Woman

Think of It

[Tash8]

guyys guys, we shouldnt have been talking behind kojacks back!

[LoCoScousa]

No.

Not if we want the human race to go on sanely. (Well to a certain degree.)

Am not that homophobic, i just don't like the idea of kid's being round shit stabbers and muff diving shit licker's, most must be perverted to bat for the other team and could get the adopted children involved in their sex acts.

[James R.]

Did you just lump all homosexuals with child molesters? Are you retarded? Yes. I think so. There are more straight parents raping, molesting, and scarring their kids than there are gay parents doing that... so what you just is completely and totally homophobic, closed minded, and moronic.

[joelle]

Of course they should be able to.
Kids don't need a mom and a dad. All kids need are parents that are happy. All kids need is love. And if kids that might end up in foster care for 18 years, or with alcoholic straight parents, or abusive straight parents, or moronic straight parents, but instead can go to two happy parents that love each other and will love the kid...hell, where's the issue?
I can't even argue this with people. It's pointless and people who compare homosexuals to child molesters, people who say that gays adopting kids will fuck the kids up (where there is NO evidence to prove as much), will never change their minds even though this will never affect them.

[baller4life]

6-0 for No

Great rhyme.

[vt_x_spider]

No, don't agree with this. Let just think for a sec...by the time any other kid has a mom, you have 2 fathers that call each other "honey" and kiss. You don't have a mother, you don't have a real father!

[LoCoScousa]

Did you just lump all homosexuals with child molesters? Are you retarded? Yes. I think so. There are more straight parents raping, molesting, and scarring their kids than there are gay parents doing that... so what you just is completely and totally homophobic, closed minded, and moronic.

Did i lable them all that way? No, i said its a possibillity.
Could was the key word before i said it, sides where are your statistics?

I don't give a toss if i am homophobic, men weren't made to shag men, women wern't made to shag women.
Simple as.

The idea of a child being round parents of the same sex sickens me, speacially if they are not the blood parents, meaning who ever in question turned gay after a straight relationship.
If you want a child, make your own. (if your gay, tough fucking luck.)

Gay people are retarded and plain perverted, I'm not gay so there for i can not be retarded.

[James R.]

Could was the key word before i said it, sides where are your statistics?

I'd like to pose the same question to you

I don't give a toss if i am homophobic, men weren't made to shag men, women wern't made to shag women.
Simple as.

And technically people weren't meant to fly, but I don't see you bitching about airplanes or helicopters

If you want a child, make your own. (if your gay, tough fucking luck.)

And I guess that's tough luck to the perfectly good parents who are sterile and can't have kids. You might as well say adoption in general should be completely illegal. It doesn't matter what orientation your parents are, all that matters is that they can provide for you and care for you. Do you think kids give two shits about what sex his parents are attracted to? No. They want to be fed, have clothes, have a home, feel loved and needed. A person can provide those things whether they're gay, straight, rich, poor, blind, or deaf

Gay people are retarded and plain perverted, I'm not gay so there for i can not be retarded.

Wow... you just said every gay person is retarded and to not be gay means you're not retarded. So I guess that's why Lance Bass (the N*Sync guy) is richer than you'll ever dream of being and there's plenty of straight kids that can barely form sentences. You've singlehandedly revoked every intelligent statement in this thread. Good job.

[LoCoScousa]

I'd like to pose the same question to you

You would like to but there is a difference, i didn't lable them, i said there is the possibillity and could happen, you know... theory? Where as you said more childern get molested by their own parents rather than adopting gay couples, either you have your statistics or you chatting shit and trying to turn it on me.

And technically people weren't meant to fly, but I don't see you bitching about airplanes or helicopters

Technically thats aided flight so has no relevance, what mechanical devices make people turn gay?
(without mentioning sex toys, as they also have no relevance.)

And I guess that's tough luck to the perfectly good parents who are sterile and can't have kids. You might as well say adoption in general should be completely illegal. It doesn't matter what orientation your parents are, all that matters is that they can provide for you and care for you. Do you think kids give two shits about what sex his parents are attracted to? No. They want to be fed, have clothes, have a home, feel loved and needed. A person can provide those things whether they're gay, straight, rich, poor, blind, or deaf

Did i say outlaw adoption? Did you try and put the words in my mouth? Yes, i said gay people, even if the can provide a great future.
Another point would be, the child adopted would be bullied and beaten if other youngsters found out in their school, its a fact it would happen as people/youngster that have never had contact with such a thing as being gay or having gay parents it largely opposed.
You can argue schools would have it sorted out, but you would be naive in thinking that as it would be on going as he/she is different in the parental way.

Wow... you just said every gay person is retarded and to not be gay means you're not retarded. So I guess that's why Lance Bass (the N*Sync guy) is richer than you'll ever dream of being and there's plenty of straight kids that can barely form sentences. You've singlehandedly revoked every intelligent statement in this thread. Good job.

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Well if gay people ain't retarded and i am?
Then what are gay people apart from gay?
What status does that leave humanity at?

(like i care about Lance Bass and his money, I'm happy as I am.)

Whats wrong? Don't you like homophobes?

[joelle]

You would like to but there is a difference, i didn't lable them, i said there is the possibillity and could happen, you know... theory? Where as you said more childern get molested by their own parents rather than adopting gay couples, either you have your statistics or you chatting shit and trying to turn it on me.

You might not have directly labeled them, but you DID lump them with child molesters. Btw, just because some guy molests a little boy, that doesn't make him gay. That makes him a pedophile. There's a big difference.

Technically thats aided flight so has no relevance, what mechanical devices make people turn gay?
(without mentioning sex toys, as they also have no relevance.)

You said same sexes weren't "meant" to be together (why this is up to YOU, I have no idea). Well, human beings weren't "meant" to fly. The analogy stands.

Did i say outlaw adoption?

no, what you said was since gay people can't biologically make a child, tough luck. News flash..sterile people can't biologically produce a child either. The analogy stands.

Another point would be, the child adopted would be bullied and beaten if other youngsters found out in their school, its a fact it would happen as people/youngster that have never had contact with such a thing as being gay or having gay parents it largely opposed.

Yeah, only if dipshits like you have kids and don't bother telling them there's nothing wrong with gay people.
Here's an idea..homophobes are no longer allowed to have kids or adopt. Intolerance is fucking up society way more than gay people are. Problem solved.

Well if gay people ain't retarded and i am?
Then what are gay people apart from gay?
What status does that leave humanity at?

(like i care about Lance Bass and his money, I'm happy as I am.)

Whats wrong? Don't you like homophobes?

I don't understand where homophobes/racists/sexists get the energy to hate for absolutely no reason. And I don't get your questions. I'd rather the "status of humanity" be about how we treat one another as opposed to what end we stick it in. But that's just me.

[James R.]

dipshit said:
You would like to but there is a difference, i didn't lable them, i said there is the possibillity and could happen, you know... theory? Where as you said more childern get molested by their own parents rather than adopting gay couples, either you have your statistics or you chatting shit and trying to turn it on me.

It's actually fact that there are more straight rapists and pedos and thats actually common sense. And my point is how can you demand statistics (which are made up more times than they aren't) when you havent provided any?

dipshit said:
Technically thats aided flight so has no relevance, what mechanical devices make people turn gay?
(without mentioning sex toys, as they also have no relevance.)

The point is that you're basing this discrimination because someone wasn't "meant to be" a certain way and thats ridiculous. Just like it would be ridiculous to bitch about flying or moving at more than 40 miles an hour because humans weren't necessarily "meant" to move that quickly

dipshit said:
Did i say outlaw adoption? Did you try and put the words in my mouth? Yes, i said gay people, even if the can provide a great future.
Another point would be, the child adopted would be bullied and beaten if other youngsters found out in their school, its a fact it would happen as people/youngster that have never had contact with such a thing as being gay or having gay parents it largely opposed.
You can argue schools would have it sorted out, but you would be naive in thinking that as it would be on going as he/she is different in the parental way.

Actually you said

If you want a child, make your own.

So technically people who are sterile can't make their own, which means it's

tough fucking luck.

for them just like it is for gay people.

And also that whole "the kid will get bullied" argument is trash. Kids will get bullied for being black in a majority white school, white in a majority black school, overweight, underweight, being poor, being biracial, shit you can get teased for having glasses. Kids are going to be teased no matter what, period, so the world needs to stop that argument.

dipshit said:
Well if gay people ain't retarded and i am?
Then what are gay people apart from gay?
What status does that leave humanity at?

Maybe they're people just like you and I and shouldn't be labeled any differently because they don't like the same things we do. Thats like saying someone is less of a person because they don't like pizza.

dipshit said:
(like i care about Lance Bass and his money, I'm happy as I am.)

And he's happy as he is.

dipshit said:
Whats wrong? Don't you like homophobes?

Actually no. They fall into the same category as racists. Racists go one way when they die, homophobes go the other. Racists in Compton, Homophobes in Massachusetts.

[$0 R3@L]

James r and the other people, this isnt a argument about whether you personally 'accept' gayness or not its whether they should be allowed and are capable of giving a child a stable and secure safe life to grow within.Gay people leave all there reproductive possibilites to the sidelines when choosing to have intercourse with the same sex,therefore i dont believe they are capable or should be able to raise children.

[joelle]

James r and the other people, this isnt a argument about whether you personally 'accept' gayness or not its whether they should be allowed and are capable of giving a child a stable and secure safe life to grow within.Gay people leave all there reproductive possibilites to the sidelines when choosing to have intercourse with the same sex,therefore i dont believe they are capable or should be able to raise children.

They "choose" to have intercourse with the same sex?
True enough. But they did not choose to be gay. Acting on those emotions is just self-acceptance. Why should they be any less capable of raising a child, just because they can't produce one? There's no logic behind that statement. Why aren't they capable of giving a child a secure and safe life to grow within? Because they love someone of the same gender? How does that affect their parenting skills in any way? Again. No logic.