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Re: Best Concepts

Postby 4D » Oct 31st, '07, 23:12

Steve Spag wrote:One of my favourite's is still "Murder, Murder". The whole concept for the song was great, and just like "Kim" every line painted a great picture. I could see the whole thing just happening by listening to the song.

Obviously there's "Stan" and "Stimulate" is another good one. I like the backmasking in the song, very creative.


He also said in his book "Angy Blonde" that "Murder Murder" was the first time he tried to write a song that was just a story from start to finish, so he's kinda proud of that one too. To me the concept isn't sensational, as it's basically just him robbing a store and getting caught by the cops, but the way he tells it, and without sacrificing complex lyrics to make it easier, he still kept the rhymes great, and the story was funny, interesting, entertaining, and as you said painted pictures with every line. Definitely one of his great tracks.
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby Slimm » Oct 31st, '07, 23:40

i never heard murder murder.. can anyone upload?
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby sammac » Nov 1st, '07, 05:53

I think that t.i track eminem vs slim shady they talked about for em's new album sounds like it could be the most ill song ,concept wise he's done
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby 4D » Nov 1st, '07, 09:30

sammac wrote:I think that t.i track eminem vs slim shady they talked about for em's new album sounds like it could be the most ill song ,concept wise he's done


Actually conceptually that's not an original idea, Canibus has a song called "Bis Vs Rip", which has his two alter ego's (Rip The Jacker and Bis [short for Canibus]) having a back and forth, it's very good and i`ll upload it if people wanna hear it. Also, Murder Murder is on the way. :8)
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby 4D » Nov 1st, '07, 09:43

Slimm wrote:i never heard murder murder.. can anyone upload?


Murder Murder

Lyrics:

http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/eminem/rm_bside/murdarmx.mnm.txt

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http://www.zshare.net/audio/459173287f4c5e/
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby 4D » Nov 1st, '07, 09:59

4D wrote:
sammac wrote:I think that t.i track eminem vs slim shady they talked about for em's new album sounds like it could be the most ill song ,concept wise he's done


Actually conceptually that's not an original idea, Canibus has a song called "Bis Vs Rip", which has his two alter ego's (Rip The Jacker and Bis [short for Canibus]) having a back and forth, it's very good and i`ll upload it if people wanna hear it. Also, Murder Murder is on the way. :8)


Fuck it I want you to hear it, so here ya go. :D

Canibus - Bis Vs Rip

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http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/canibus/mic_club/bisvsrip.can.txt

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Re: Best Concepts

Postby Slimm » Nov 7th, '07, 14:25

4D wrote:
Slimm wrote:i never heard murder murder.. can anyone upload?


Murder Murder

Lyrics:

http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/eminem/rm_bside/murdarmx.mnm.txt

Download:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/459173287f4c5e/


bit late but thanks man, downloading it now
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby Slimm » Nov 7th, '07, 14:30

ohhh this one.. I used to have this on a tape with unnamed eminem tracks had a lot of dope songs i never heard before on it.. iPod broke and never found the tape again that sucked, props for the track.
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Nov 7th, '07, 16:34

i got to say its the way eminem does the concepts that makes them great, none of the concepts (exepect for stan and kim) were very ground breaking, it was what he sayed in the concepts that made them as good a songs as they are. i think it was nas that sayed

"its not what you do its how you do it"

but as for this topic my fav concept is stan
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby 4D » Nov 7th, '07, 19:06

,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:i got to say its the way eminem does the concepts that makes them great, none of the concepts (exepect for stan and kim) were very ground breaking, it was what he sayed in the concepts that made them as good a songs as they are. i think it was nas that sayed

"its not what you do its how you do it"

but as for this topic my fav concept is stan


Exactly man, you've hit the nail right on the head. That's why i`m such a big fan of Eminem's music. I really don't give a shit about the content in a lot of his rhymes, but it's the way he does it, that's a bit special. Bonnie & Clyde is conceptually a more original track than Kim, nobody has ever told a song like that talking to a baby about killing the kids mother, the way he used all the little baby language was ingenius. But it was the way he delivered "Kim" that was ingenius, never has a rap story been told wth more conviction and anger, gave me shivers up the spine listening to it the first few times.
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby <Stiiccy> » Mar 2nd, '08, 22:48

4D wrote:For me it's "Kim", easily the darkest hip-hop song i've ever heard, every line paints a picture, it's very vivid lyrically. I agree with Truemfan, but have to also acknowledge Stan, Guilty Conscience, My Fault, Brain Damage, Who Knew, Sing For The Moment, Lose Yourself, Mosh, Yellow Brick Road and When I`m Gone. If anyone wants me to elaborate on why any of the above are good concepts, no problem.

umm dont mean to sound like a dick,,
but kim is deffintaly a dark song
but it is NOT the darkest
just listen to that underground wicked shit\
that stuff is hella dark bro
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby Evan C. » Mar 3rd, '08, 08:16

"Halie's Song" :8)

Em's verse at the end is so genius.
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby D0llyShady » Mar 3rd, '08, 19:58

Lmfao. Navysealkid killed it :y:
I'm sure nobody minds anyone posting in here since firstly it ain't that old... and secondly, it's a unique thread not news that would confuse people and make a mess if bumped.
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby albumbase11 » Mar 4th, '08, 01:13

one thing is he doesnt dumb down his lyrics when he tells a story
which takes average songs and makes them amazing and different even if its not a new concept
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Re: Best Concepts

Postby yoshi » Mar 4th, '08, 15:13

Chet wrote:Please don't post to old topics :smoking:


it's a topic that still can be discussed so please shut up?
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