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should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

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Postby AspirinE » Nov 10th, '05, 20:04

$0 R3@L wrote:the problem with people today is we get dictated too much for my liking.

dont do this ,dont to that.Do this and this.

we should let people do what THEY wanna do and How they wanna do it.No one can truly judge a person but that persons own judgment.

again just my two cents :D .


Well when u get a 14 year old girl pregnant and she is forced to make an abortion .. that is murder and u ordered the kill!

and u dont say OK go murder someone if u want to do u?
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Postby $0 R3@L » Nov 10th, '05, 20:15

^^^ erm obiviously not....its situations like that of course.Im talking bout stuff like abortions where people see having a abortion as something wrong.Only that person can judge if its wrong who the fuck are we to tell them it is.
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 10th, '05, 20:20

$0 R3@L wrote:^^^ erm obiviously not....its situations like that of course.Im talking bout stuff like abortions where people see having a abortion as something wrong.Only that person can judge if its wrong who the fuck are we to tell them it is.


Well who the hell is a mother to kill her baby?


and my point is... if u dont want ur 14 year daughter to comit MURDER
u will teach her not to go fuck around when she is 14or under 18

but if she is older than 18 she would have to keep her child seeing as she is a responsible adult and she new that this could happen
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Postby $0 R3@L » Nov 10th, '05, 20:21

basically the people need to learn about condoms and common sense.The end. :happy:
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 10th, '05, 20:23

$0 R3@L wrote:basically the people need to learn about condoms and common sense.The end. :happy:


I think the only condition to make an abortion should be rape
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Postby $0 R3@L » Nov 10th, '05, 20:44

exactly :worship:

but condoms aint 100% what happens with accidents??? :unsure:
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Postby yoshi » Nov 10th, '05, 20:44

um.. i think that abortion shouldn't be allowed unless mother's life is in danger, she was raped and um.. yup, that's everything. If her life is in danger and she might die, what with baby then? If she was raped she should have choice.. And yeah, if she's under age.. What's the point in having baby if you are 15? Whole life fucked up, not only her, but her baby too - I wouldn't want to have mother 15 yrs older than me..
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Postby Tomega » Nov 10th, '05, 21:01

^--- Dont agree
Mothers may choose, after all there the ones to bring up the children.
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Postby Renegade » Nov 11th, '05, 03:49

Angie wrote::-k yes... heres why...
ppl have a choise.. kays.. whole constitution thing ppl!! we cant just pick and chose to ignore cetain right!!!
even though its not the lil ones fault.. what if the mother or father arnt fit to have a child? what if their 12!!!! :zipped: noppers!!! well thats what i think
if you're not fit to raise a child don't kill it, put it up for adoption after the birth, i'm tired of this "it's the girls body" thing anybody who wants an abortion that wasn't raped should be shot after the baby is born, if there actually is an afterlife and all religions are true the baby will not have been baptised and go to hell, would you rather have your kid grow up with people who will love and take care of them or would you want them to die before they even get to see any of the world at all


and Yoshi, my mom was 14 when i was born, i wasn't aborted, and our lives were not ruined at all
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Postby yoshi » Nov 11th, '05, 17:35

^ well, i didn't mean to hurt anybody, you're lucky that now it's ok for u and your mom, but mostly ppl are not happy if their daughter is pregnant while studying in high school..

ok, that's my opinion, i just told you what i think about it :p
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Postby Curious » Nov 13th, '05, 13:59

Renegade wrote:
Angie wrote::-k yes... heres why...
ppl have a choise.. kays.. whole constitution thing ppl!! we cant just pick and chose to ignore cetain right!!!
even though its not the lil ones fault.. what if the mother or father arnt fit to have a child? what if their 12!!!! :zipped: noppers!!! well thats what i think
if you're not fit to raise a child don't kill it, put it up for adoption after the birth, i'm tired of this "it's the girls body" thing anybody who wants an abortion that wasn't raped should be shot after the baby is born, if there actually is an afterlife and all religions are true the baby will not have been baptised and go to hell, would you rather have your kid grow up with people who will love and take care of them or would you want them to die before they even get to see any of the world at all

and Yoshi, my mom was 14 when i was born, i wasn't aborted, and our lives were not ruined at all


Renegade, you're so lucky that you had a mom who was able to take care of you even though she was just a child when she had you - she must be an amazing person and very strong. I know there are a lot of people out there like your mom, but also that a lot of children born to teens aren't as lucky as you, some of these kids can't provide for their children materially, and some don't have the emotional reserves to do so - because they're just kids, and you can't expect them to be adults, even though they may have made the choice to have sex (or were "forced" to do it because they thought it was expected from them...).
I don't care about religious arguments, but ethically I agree that in the ideal world there would be no abortions - adoption is a much better option, also considering that there are so many couples out there who for some reason can't have children and whose greatest wish is to become parents. On the other hand I do think that abortion should be allowed until the 12th week of pregnancy as it is here in Denmark now - and here I have to trust the scientists on the time limit. Since it's the mother's body and, ultimately, responsibility it should be her choice. It's very easy to say that people should've thought about the risks before having sex, but in real life accidents do happen, and I don't think it's fair that a teen should have her entire life turned upside down just because of a moment's stupidity.
No matter if people decide to get an abortion or get the child it's a decision which has enormeous consequences not only for themselves but also for the child - and for a lot of girls, the decision to get an abortion is by no means easy and is something that haunts them for the rest of their lives. So the last thing they need is other people judging them or making life even harder for them - they're already judging themselves.
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Postby lyriks i got » Nov 13th, '05, 15:59

Oh my gosh this is a very good question. I have pondered about this questin for quite some time. I think abortion period is unhealthy, and wrong. If there is an alternative parent that can raise the child then maybe the child should live. But in general taking its life is wrong. So all "mistakes" should be exterminated at its earliest chance of convienience??


I am adopted maybe thats why my opinon is such this way.
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Postby ines » Nov 15th, '05, 13:34

if you have no other choice then you can aborted, but otherwise not.i am against aborted.i don't like it at all.but when you are raped, then the changes are different, but when you are pregnant from a one night stand, not agree with
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Postby Curious » Nov 16th, '05, 22:20

Sarah wrote:
Curious wrote: abortion should be allowed until the 12th week of pregnancy.


i agree, but anything after that i think is wrong


Could you explain yourself - what do you mean by "anything after that"? Anything else in my statement or you disagree with the subsequent posters?
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 17th, '05, 17:37

Sarah wrote:like, anything further after 12 weeks is wrong, um..i don't think i disagree with anything you said :-k , lol i don't remember :happy: , but my point is it should be allowed cos accidents happen and 12 weeks gives the mother time to think about it, like if she really wants to have this baby or not



So having sex is an accedent ... everyone knows it can happen ... but they do anyways


Sometimes ppl just have to take responsibility for their actions
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