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Comunism VS Capitalism Vol.1

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Postby AspirinE » Nov 13th, '05, 21:38

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During comunism ppl didnt have to worry about food on their table
and starving to death... it was 100% gauranteed... everyone had a job

Its about the morality of ppl....
If the world would ever wanna end war it would have to endorse a socialist regime


Damn, you can't be serious!!!
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In the beginnin of 20th century peasants in Russia were literally starvin to death 'cuz reds were takin their food "for the needs of revolution", and if someone denied to give the last things they had, them creeps took the oldest male family member to concentration camp, if there were no grown men in the family they took kids. Can you imagine a concentration camp with barbed wire full of 8-10 year old kids??

As for havin a job you could be put into jail for simply not having one

for parasitism, you know..


man u talking about the beggining
of course it was hard in the beggining of the revolution
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 13th, '05, 21:43

I mean like cmon its a turnover how could it be easy
and about the job thing.... good ppl should learn to work
and stop lounging about complaining
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Postby SkylZ » Nov 13th, '05, 21:51

As for 2nd World War, don't you know that Stalin and Gitler were like "best friends" right before the beginnin. They were sending greeting telegrams to each other.. about infinite friendship of the Soviet and German people. When Gitler invated Western Poland, Stalin invated Easern Poland. In a couple months they swapped and the whole Poland came under control of USSR in exchange for somethin else. The USSR was no better!!!! And During the war Soviet people had to wage against both Gitler and Stalin 'cuz it was Stalin who executed the whole command of Russian army searchin for betrayers, damn he killed nearly everyone who knew how to wage wars and turned millions of ppl into cannon fodder. He ordered to give carabines to soldiers while german soldiers had automatic weapon 'cuz otherwise they'd "waste too many bullets in battles". In the end of the war soldiers were comin back home, they were heroes, but once again they were put into concentration camps but at this time it was soviet concentration camps, not nazi!!
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Postby SkylZ » Nov 13th, '05, 21:53

ASPIRINE wrote:stop lounging about complaining


I don't get what you mean
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Postby SkylZ » Nov 13th, '05, 22:03

What about the soviet motto
"Сегодня слушает джаз - завтра родину продаст"
(If today he listens to jazz, it means that tomorrow he's gonna betray his fatherland)
I saw an old video clip of soviet propaganda. It was about an imaginary girl named Olga or Dasha who loved Rock'n"Roll. A male voice was sayin' somethin like "Her friends must explain her that she must have a family, she must raise her children. They must tell her that she make a great mistake choosin this Rock'n'Roll"
What you think they'd say about your love for hip-hop?

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oh, always forget to say that I like your Max Payne avatar much better
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 13th, '05, 22:05

Yes hard mesures gotta be taken sometimes
but it all depends on the way u look at it...
my family was 100% comunist and they lived happy as long as u stick to the rules.. its capitalism that encourages u to break them ,,,,,,,

comunism killed ppl yes but cpaitalism kills way more everyday
its moral standarts....

IM not saying that comunism is 100% good
im saying its better than capitalism .. just look at the amount of corruption it brings
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Postby SkylZ » Nov 13th, '05, 22:09

What about China? Every year they execute by shooting currupt officials and it still doesn't help.
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 13th, '05, 22:14

SkylZ wrote:What about the soviet motto
"Сегодня слушает джаз - завтра родину продаст"
(If today he listens to jazz, it means that tomorrow he's gonna betray his fatherland)
I saw an old video clip of soviet propaganda. It was about an imaginary girl named Olga or Dasha who loved Rock'n"Roll. A male voice was sayin' somethin like "Her friends must explain her that she must have a family, she must raise her children. They must tell her that she make a great mistake choosin this Rock'n'Roll"
What you think they'd say about your love for hip-hop?


if i was raised in those times id definately not listen to it
and neither would i endorse materialism ... but its addictive and society nowadays is very much pushing to buy stuff and like stuff u would have never without influence

but wat about american propoganda it is fucking outrageous
like them "godless comunism" comics

u cant blame the propoganda those days
and tell me that ur parents didnt listen to rock in the 70s
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 13th, '05, 22:18

SkylZ wrote:What about China? Every year they execute by shooting currupt officials and it still doesn't help.


well china has its problems and americans ARE tryna corupt it
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i think corrupt officials should be shot anyway coz its those kinda schemes that leave ppl starving
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Postby SkylZ » Nov 13th, '05, 22:24

u cant blame the propoganda those days
and tell me that ur parents didnt listen to rock in the 70s

That's what I'm talkin about!! I'm not sayin it's bad to listen to Rock, I'm
sayin it's bad when goverment bullshits to people and brainwash 'em.


but wat about american propoganda it is fucking outrageous
like them "godless comunism" comics


I ain't seen those comics, but I came to Sunday school a couple times a year ago(I quited after 2nd or 3rd lesson) and I do know perfectly well that none of priests would never use the word "comunism" without "godless".
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Postby SkylZ » Nov 13th, '05, 22:29

i think corrupt officials should be shot


I think that no one should ever be shot. Not 'cuz "Only God has the right to take lives", but 'cuz there's a line, you know.. you gotta stay human, I guess
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Postby SkylZ » Nov 13th, '05, 22:38

like you said
u cant blame the propoganda those days


It was the war, maybe 'cold', but still war. I don't think there were good or bad sides in this dumb conflict. I just think that there was a wrong side and the side that was even more wrong and the US was the wrong one.

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It's ridiculous that 2 Russians are arguing about it =)
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 14th, '05, 16:12

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It's ridiculous that 2 Russians are arguing about it =)


LOL yeah but i been enspired by hatred this year ... prolly the most corrupt year of all years to come
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