Not at all. Hyponomy means it falls UNDER the same idea.
Humans and Mushroooms are both Living organisms. Are we both the same thing? HOWEVER if you wish to put them together, then you vote on wordplay and NOT nameplay, never vice versa. Just as you would not judge a singer on whether they can hit high notes over their vocal range.
One can perform a wordplay without it being a nameplay, but not vice versa, thus logic dictates WP > NP.
i know what it means. again your saying the category should be called worplday, on here its been named nameplay...why ? i dont know it just has been, but they are getting judged by the same skill, witch is ultimately wordplay, it should be called wordplay but it hasnt been again i cant tell you why coz i dont know why, thats just the way its been and no one has ever brought it to the light, but you must agree that you can give out 2 point for the same skill, witch is why i stated wordplay as not being a category.
^So why not include it a category? Oh and i nearly forgot to include in the above point, NP is also a sub type of Personal. You cannot say personals are the covered by punches man. It doesn't work like that.
you got to understand im not, not inculding it as a category no one has ever asked for it to be a category but we cant have each member using different breakdwon categories we have to have a set amount of categories to break down, also yeh Np is a strong part of having personel punchlines and overall a personel drop, judgind nameplay and personel punchlines in a category caleld personel is a good idea. like i said members have never came and asked for these things and i dont have the right to change the categories all the time or else it gets confusing so if people think we should have a personel cat to single out nameplay and personel punches, so be it.
Hmm.. maybe my love of old 5%er mathematics makes confused here, but
Knowledge / Understaning / Wisdom
are different things, and different levels, wit knowledge being the lowest. hence why vast knowledge is not the same as high iq.
And to go by your "knowing fewer words" that is also bullshit. I can't remember the english language theorist who proposed the idea of deficiency, in that, kids from a wealthier background who knew more words (This was ages ago) could understand things better because they had the words to describe it... guess that kinda falls in with the sapir-whorf hypothesis too.. but the point i'm trying to make is that's pure bullshit.
If i describe a colour as "transluscent turquoise"... or i describe it was being "something in between the blue midday sky being reflected on a clear lake as i look through glasses the colour of envy"
which shows a greater grasp of the language? which is more descriptive.
My friend it's not the size of a sword, but how one uses it. Thus a dagger can be used to defeat 3 armour clad claymour wielding oafs, in the deft hands of a skilled warrior.
Perhaps you should consider parrallels in the real world, or other simple anecdotes before you jump to such a conclusion. Because someone who uses no words longer than 6 letters who can tell me a fantastic story in his rhymes, is far more interesting and talented than one who tells a conscise tale using the minimum words necessary, and attempting to flaunt his vast lexical range without engaging me.
I mean for real, some of the best poems are the most simple.
your sorta goin off track, i agree with what you said, but i stand by someone who has attempted to show more vocabulary deserves the point over someone who hasnt attempted it. your examples and methods you mentioned are all right but on a much higher level than needed in this battle, the mind frame you speak off is above what was on show so i never needed to think like it when voting in this specific battle.
the flow is judged generally by how easy it is to read and how the rhymes flow"
-aka how they are structured
"the multi's cat are rated on the standard of the multi rhyme not the flow of them"
-so if it's "I AM DAVID/MY HAND SWAYS WITH" vs "I AM JOHN/FIVE GRAND ROB"... aka which is structured more coherently and basically how they fit together
no becuase rhymes can be structured well, they are just bad rhymes, multi's can be structued well in the peice goin by there sylybles and were they come in on the line, but the multi themselves dont flow well. the rhymes are a big part in the flow but you can have to many words/sylybles bewtween the rhymes and this throws it of flow, then you next line can be structured completely different but flow better so the structure of your peice and the flow of it is getting seperated. the structure is the stability and how you stick to your rhyme structure and generally if you stick to a good constant rhyme structure it will flow well, but its not always the case depending on how good a writer you are, you can have a constant structure of rhymes that come in the same play every line, but 2 lines down you just have bad multi's that dont flow, the structure is still there but the choice of rhyme was bad and messed up the flow, these things all fit together in the overall peice and help each other out, but the reason for a breakdown is to see what parts you did well and what parts you did badly and thats the point in sperating these in the breakdown.
That's quite the turnaround from your previous:
"oh and dont ever question my knowledge again when im clearly justyfing the categories and votes"
But it's not a biggie, most people seem to question my ability at first, so I'm used to it. It's more fun to play the game when you haven't shown your cards yet, people don't know what to expect that way.
However, I'm only really interested in discussing new voting systems with those who i deem to have in depth knowledge, understanding and wisdom in concern to battling audio and text, as well as a few years under their belt, preferably as an admin on a site that is very emcee focused, as opposed to a fansite such as this (no offence, but i feel it is wrong to have an opinion on someone/something and not be man enough to voice it to them).
And i'm afraid you don't really meet my standards. However I will suggest a simple rubric which is generally accepted as being very good, yet basic.
questoning my knowledge has nothing to do with who structured the voting system on this site. i justified my votes in the breakdown and the categories are justified because all skills are taken into account.
and look your becoming a bit of an asshole now, like your all high and mighty, like i said im happy to make changes to the system, i didnt invent this system i only uphold it and try and improve on it, no one has ever made complaints of the category breakdown (witch is optional by the way) and if this site or the people on it dont meet you standard, witch im sure no one really gives a fuck about, why complain about the system we have running here ? either stick around and improve the site with your almighty knowledge you brag about, or leave. either way i dont care, once you started acting like you got a the silver spoon of text battling up your ass i lost intrest in anything you have to say.
