Til i Collapse or Renegade

[SayGoodbyeHollywood]

iite we all know that eminems 1st verse on renegade made it into the top 20 verses of all time. But i still think that his 3rd verse in Til i Collapse is his best hes ever wrote and the only reason that renegade is in the top 20 is cause it was a collab wit Jay. Its still one of the best verses but i think Em should of got more respect for his own song which i think had a better verse. What u guys think


Soon as the verse starts, I eat at an MC's heart
What is he thinkin'? How not to go against me, smart!
And it's absurd, how people hang on every word
I'll probably never get the props I feel I ever deserve
But I'll never be served, my spot is forever reserved
If I ever leave Earth, that would be the death of me first
Cause in my heart of hearts I know nothin’ could ever be worse
That's why I'm clever when I put together every verse
My thoughts, are sporadic, I act, like I'm a addict
I rap, like I'm addicted to smack like I'm Kim Mathers
But I don't wanna go forth and back in constant battles
The fact is I would rather sit back and bomb some rappers
So this is like a full-blown attack I'm launchin' at 'em
The track is on some battlin' raps who want some static?
Cause I don't really think that the fact that I'm Slim matters
A plaque and platinum status is wack if I'm not the baddest

[shady_soldier_]

That's a pretty good point. I think it was overlooked by most people, but I'm sure there are others who feel this song was great. Maybe they just didn't mention because of the fact that it's his own song and it's not like a Jay-Z vs Eminem thing?

[SayGoodbyeHollywood]

i was saying that renegade got more noticed because its Eminem and Jay z

[<Stiiccy>]

Renegade anyday...

[mcZu]

Renegade, a RENEGADE
Till I collapse, collapsed before Renegade

There are both good, just Renegade is better

[SayGoodbyeHollywood]

I love TIC

but all the verses on Renegade just shit on it.

Renegade for president

alll the verses are better than Til i collapse 3rd verse ???? no wayyyy Ems 1st verse ok i understand that i just dont see it that way . but all of them i dont know about that

[Solace]

To be truthful I could listen to Til I Collapse over Renegade anyday.

[Tash8]

Renegade might of been the 1st beat Eminem sold to a big outside artist.

and 2 think it went to jay-z, eminem had to be fucking grateful

he didn't sell it, emienm gives free beats to people like jayz and nas and etc. even all the beats he did for the 2pac album, were free, he didn't get a single cent from that album

he's not in it for the money, obviously

[Tash8]

Renegade might of been the 1st beat Eminem sold to a big outside artist.

and 2 think it went to jay-z, eminem had to be fucking grateful

he didn't sell it, emienm gives free beats to people like jayz and nas and etc. even all the beats he did for the 2pac album, were free, he didn't get a single cent from that album

he's not in it for the money, obviously

I didn't know that

well he still must of been excited

who wouldn't be, Jay-Z is considered one of the top 10 rappers ever..

[SayGoodbyeHollywood]

yea i agree completely that renegade is a master piece . i just like the last verse in TIC better just preference i guess ...but both songs are classics

[gladimnotsoluble]

Ha. Royce shitted on Jay on the original renegade. And if it had the production that Jay's has it would have been a God song.

Okay i'm kidding that's a little drastic, Jay acutally had two sick verses, but Royce's verse were good too, and he should get some credit

[lakaisx]

I personally loved both songs especially TIC but when i heard Renegade and especially Ems second verse i was like thats going straight to history and never leavin..so its honestly like a tie to me

[Throwback24]

Renegade quite easily. Till I collapse gets annoying.

[Arabian Shady]

both are equally as good as each other, i mean since TIC has a faster beat it uplifts ur mood and renegade has its own place,like u could listen to it anytime of the day,know wat i'm sayin?

[Steve Spag]

As much as I love Till I Collapse... lyrically, it can't top Renegade. This is like the epitome of the complexity of Em's rhymes. Not only that, but the content which he talks about in his two verses has more substance than in Till I Collapse.

I agree 100% with you. "Till I Collapse" is such a great song, and his rhymes in it are amazing, but Renegade is just "it" when it comes to delievery, flow, lyrics, and the messege.