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Re: Prostitution: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Hadez » Aug 14th, '08, 00:53

rape is illegal and should stay illegal.
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Re: Prostitution: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby yoshi » Aug 14th, '08, 01:01

Hadez wrote:rape is illegal and should stay illegal.


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who the fuck brought the rape topic up? they aren't raped, not in this 'classic' way. they got their ID's taken away, they're threatened and beaten up if needed and made having sex for money. the pimps or the mob, they don't rape them - they exploit them.
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Re: Prostition: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Tash8 » Aug 14th, '08, 01:09

yoshi wrote:oh, you fucking idiot, prostitution refers to both, so called sex slavery and conscious choice of the girl.


no, that's forced prostitution, and that is different than what i was talking about and that should be ILLEGAL regardless if prostitution was legalized, that's slavery, we already got passed that

wow, so now you're like.. prostitution expert?


i'm no expert, but i try to research a topic before i go and argue it.

a lot of girls from Eastern Europe are sold to public houses in the West. we both live in Europe so we know what happens, so why shouldn't we say it out loud? since when stating facts is called "dickriding"?


regardless, ur stating facts that are irrelevant to this topic, sex slave are and should always be illegal, now if u thought for a minute that i would be arguing that sex slaves should be legalized then you are fucked up.
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Re: Prostitution: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Hadez » Aug 14th, '08, 01:15

yoshi wrote:
Hadez wrote:rape is illegal and should stay illegal.


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who the fuck brought the rape topic up? they aren't raped, not in this 'classic' way. they got their ID's taken away, they're threatened and beaten up if needed and made having sex for money. the pimps or the mob, they don't rape them - they exploit them.

yoshi wrote:you want us to believe that making girls have sex without their will doesn't happen in the United Stated? 8-[

and yes, i understand what you are saying. it's horrible what's going on over there, it shouldn't be happening. never at any time should somebody be stripped of everything, etc... but those particular actions are not what i'm questioning the law for.
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Re: Prostition: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby yoshi » Aug 14th, '08, 12:01

Tash8 wrote:no, that's forced prostitution, and that is different than what i was talking about and that should be ILLEGAL regardless if prostitution was legalized, that's slavery, we already got passed that


you never made it clear in your first post, unles "..." refers to the non-forced prostitution.


i'm no expert, but i try to research a topic before i go and argue it.



sorry for not being particularly interested in hookers.

there's nothing to research btw. i could research a topic if we talked about BLS or ATLS, since we're on prostitution topic.. i'm not gonna type up 'prostitutes-wordlwide.com' and think how could would it be if there was a Red Light Distric next to my little brother's school.


regardless, ur stating facts that are irrelevant to this topic, sex slave are and should always be illegal, now if u thought for a minute that i would be arguing that sex slaves should be legalized then you are fucked up.


they are not irrelevant. we talked about prostitution and sex slavery is a big part of the - let's call it - 'business' here, so yes, they are relevant.
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Re: Prostitution: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Slimm » Aug 14th, '08, 12:42

Look you asked why it was illegal.

Well since its almost impossible to monitor which girls are forced, or do it for money. Since you cant know that, and ALOT of girls who are in legalised red light districts here still are still the import girls yoshi talks about. I know a guy who goes to poland 4 times a year to get these girls, he just searches for the poorest, tells them theres a bright future in Holland and they end up being prostitutes. (and before someone starts whining no i dont think thats cool).

But actually i cant debate on this topic cause its legal here, im not sure why, maybe because there will be less rapings and because its the oldest proffesion in the world. They try to monitor it here to make sure all the girls are there for theirselfs, but once in a while u hear a story of a hooker getting hit so hard by her pimp that she died so it aint all good there yet.
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Re: Prostitution: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Xray » Aug 14th, '08, 13:41

what? prostitution is illegal? :unsure:
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Re: Prostition: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Tash8 » Aug 14th, '08, 18:24

yoshi wrote:i'm no expert, but i try to research a topic before i go and argue it.


u'd seriously think i'd be discussing if a part of slavery should be legalized? wow, u made a mistake don't try to act like i'm the stupid one here.


sorry for not being particularly interested in hookers.

there's nothing to research btw. i could research a topic if we talked about BLS or ATLS, since we're on prostitution topic.. i'm not gonna type up 'prostitutes-wordlwide.com' and think how could would it be if there was a Red Light Distric next to my little brother's school.


haha now a jokster huh....

they are not irrelevant. we talked about prostitution and sex slavery is a big part of the - let's call it - 'business' here, so yes, they are relevant.


who in there right mind would think this is about sex slavery... fine next time when we discuss something like this, i'll make sure to also explain the obvious and common sense..

and @ slimm, i agree with the second part it'd be easier to control and monitor... now ur contradicting urself, u said u can't always monitor which are forced or not, but when it's legalized i'm sure it can be easier monitored because it wont be under-the-table type of work, u get me?
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Re: Prostition: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby BlaqReaper » Aug 14th, '08, 21:36

Tash8 wrote:
yoshi wrote:i'm no expert, but i try to research a topic before i go and argue it.


u'd seriously think i'd be discussing if a part of slavery should be legalized? wow, u made a mistake don't try to act like i'm the stupid one here.

who in there right mind would think this is about sex slavery... fine next time when we discuss something like this, i'll make sure to also explain the obvious and common sense..

and @ slimm, i agree with the second part it'd be easier to control and monitor... now ur contradicting urself, u said u can't always monitor which are forced or not, but when it's legalized i'm sure it can be easier monitored because it wont be under-the-table type of work, u get me?


I'd just like to add that, even with your stance against slavery, sex slavery may go hand in hand with prostitution. I mean if prostitution becomes legalized, it will become a business right? In our capitalist society, big businesses often cut corners to gain the advantage over others. Sometimes these tactics are not moral, ethical, or legal... yet these big businesses can get away with anything so they do it anyways.
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Re: Prostition: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Tash8 » Aug 14th, '08, 22:45

BlaqReaper wrote:
Tash8 wrote:
yoshi wrote:i'm no expert, but i try to research a topic before i go and argue it.


u'd seriously think i'd be discussing if a part of slavery should be legalized? wow, u made a mistake don't try to act like i'm the stupid one here.

who in there right mind would think this is about sex slavery... fine next time when we discuss something like this, i'll make sure to also explain the obvious and common sense..

and @ slimm, i agree with the second part it'd be easier to control and monitor... now ur contradicting urself, u said u can't always monitor which are forced or not, but when it's legalized i'm sure it can be easier monitored because it wont be under-the-table type of work, u get me?


I'd just like to add that, even with your stance against slavery, sex slavery may go hand in hand with prostitution. I mean if prostitution becomes legalized, it will become a business right? In our capitalist society, big businesses often cut corners to gain the advantage over others. Sometimes these tactics are not moral, ethical, or legal... yet these big businesses can get away with anything so they do it anyways.


whether they can get away with it or not does not matter... the amount of forced prostitution will be lowered just by the fact that prostitution would be monitored...

of course, same thing happens with every job or whatever... sometimes people sign up to do something, sometimes it's forced... the forced part is always, always, illegal.
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Re: Prostition: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby yoshi » Aug 15th, '08, 01:22

Tash8 wrote:
u'd seriously think i'd be discussing if a part of slavery should be legalized? wow, u made a mistake don't try to act like i'm the stupid one here.


no, i did not make a mistake. i posted my opinion, because it was YOU who was like "wow-i-don't-know-what-age-you-live-in" and acted like it never happened, because YOUR country is oh so awesome.


haha now a jokster huh....


no, just being honest with you.

who in there right mind would think this is about sex slavery... fine next time when we discuss something like this, i'll make sure to also explain the obvious and common sense..


first of all - make sure to post something meanigful instead of "...", ok?
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Re: Prostition: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Tash8 » Aug 15th, '08, 01:55

yoshi wrote:
no, i did not make a mistake. i posted my opinion, because it was YOU who was like "wow-i-don't-know-what-age-you-live-in" and acted like it never happened, because YOUR country is oh so awesome.


another mistake by the oh so great... shit, check back i never denied once that, that shit was not happening, i never once said oh i dont know what age ur livin in... i never said U.S. is amazing it ain't happenin here..


first of all - make sure to post something meanigful instead of "...", ok?


the title said it all, no need to say again, like i said if ur dumb enough to think i'd be talking about allowing SLAVERY, then u must have ur brain attached wrong.
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Re: Prostition: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby yoshi » Aug 15th, '08, 02:09

Tash8 wrote:the title said it all, no need to say again, like i said if ur dumb enough to think i'd be talking about allowing SLAVERY, then u must have ur brain attached wrong.




no, i think you have your brain attached wrong. prostitution is still called prostitution, no matter if it's free choice or not, so i decided to elaborate on that particular branch of prostitution and the very simple reason why it is illegal.

if you're dumb enough to post threads with topics included only and expect people to think what was your point, then.. well.. again, you have your brain attached wrong.


besides - does it hurt you that much that i said prostitution should be illegal? or that i said it was dumb to start with "..."? you got any complexes you'd like to talk about?..
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Re: Prostition: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Tash8 » Aug 15th, '08, 02:14

yoshi wrote:
Tash8 wrote:the title said it all, no need to say again, like i said if ur dumb enough to think i'd be talking about allowing SLAVERY, then u must have ur brain attached wrong.




no, i think you have your brain attached wrong. prostitution is still called prostitution, no matter if it's free choice or not, so i decided to elaborate on that particular branch of prostitution and the very simple reason why it is illegal.

if you're dumb enough to post threads with topics included only and expect people to think what was your point, then.. well.. again, you have your brain attached wrong.


besides - does it hurt you that much that i said prostitution should be illegal? or that i said it was dumb to start with "..."? you got any complexes you'd like to talk about?..


i couldn't careless if u want prostitution illegal, i dont even want prostitution legal, I just asked a simple question why it was illegal, then you, or actually miranda, respond with the stupidest argument, ever.

whatever I'm done with this, regardless with what i say, i'm reference bar in my own word... you just pick the part of my argument that you can rebuttal against and ignore the other stuff which you know is right and won't even argue.

edit: and now that I look at it, i dun even know why i'm arguing with you, u didn't make a stupid argument, it was miranda who somehow brought up forced prostitution and you just continued it.
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Re: Prostitution: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby yoshi » Aug 15th, '08, 02:20

blah.


it wasn't the stupidest argument ever, no one brought the religious aspect here :b:
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