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Explanation of Encore

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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby Tash8 » Jul 13th, '08, 03:52

TruEmFan wrote:
Tash8 wrote:true

also lose yourself is used a lot

here's another example:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d7hs4VMj3vo
and
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jS_71WybxYY


Of course Lose Yourself is used a lot, it was his biggest song. :p

Like when Jodie Foster quoted it at that college speech. And I remember reading about Queen using it as background music on their tour. I never saw the video though. :y:

And there's no sound on your second link :unsure:
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ya there is lol, maybe ur volume is too low??
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby meinem » Jul 13th, '08, 07:54

AJS2050 wrote:ahh theres too many threads about encore, it was a great album em was having a good time enougth said :smoking: , and just relax and wait paintienly for the new joint :8)

but good read :y:


great theory but encore was still a great eminem album and a classic, he just chose to go down a different line.

eminem HAS NOT fallen off people just didnt understand the concept of each track on encorfe and some of the best tracks were not even mentioned i mean puke was a classic to ya know then you got spend some time and crazy in love was as it says crazy but you ever listened to the lyrical content and the flow on that song is fast a furious

i just dont get why every slags encore when it was easily a clear classic and easily as good as all his other albums he just chose to muck around more on some tracks taking the mick out of some lifestyle concepts to
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby SayGoodbyeHollywood » Jul 13th, '08, 21:55

i dont think Encore is a bad album i just think that the order of the songs makes the album seem worse than it is
first 6 tracks
evil deeds
never enough
yellow brick road
like toy soldiers
mosh
puke

All of those are good tracks then the album goes downhill with
My 1st Single
Rain man
Big Weenie( its decent but still below average)
Just lose it
Ass like that

5 tracks in a row where its obvious the album collapses .. but then it comes back up to close it out

Spend some time
Mockingbird
Crazy in Love ( i feel like everyone forgets about this track)
One shot 2 Shot( good song feat D-12)
Encore


point is even if he took 2 songs out of ,1st single , ass like that, just lose it, big weenie, or rain man and put them in the beginning of the album i think people would have a different opinion of the album because theres a span of about like 15-20 min where the albums weak and this can lose someones attention if they arent a big Em fan
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby JMG » Jul 14th, '08, 00:25

he shots his fans, not literally but with encore he shoots us.
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby Emadyville » Jul 14th, '08, 03:20

SayGoodbyeHollywood wrote:i dont think Encore is a bad album i just think that the order of the songs makes the album seem worse than it is


Good point to be honest, but I think the fact that those 5 songs were on it brought it down because no other album had 5 bad tracks, although they are funny, the other funny shit he did had good lyricism. O well, maybe on his next album he'll say something about encore.
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby neversnooze » Jul 14th, '08, 04:46

i couldnt read the whole thing but i read like half of it, if he purposely made encore suck, why take dr.dre and 50 with him, can someone explain it
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby Evan C. » Jul 14th, '08, 09:15

If Eminem made Encore on purpose that way, and hasn't really fallen off, he did a damn fine job.

IMO though I don't buy it..You could tell he TRIED to make good, meaningful songs (like mockingbird and When i'm Gone) he just lost the talent to make that shit appealing. The genius word play and delivery from his previous self was totally gone on that whole album...I doubt that making somethign that shitty could be faked.

On the other hand though, that interview with LL makes me think he might have come out of whatever funk he was in since 2004. He sounded good rapping on the phone and his voice sounded a lot better. He doesn't sound exhausted anymore...
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby SayGoodbyeHollywood » Jul 14th, '08, 16:19

when im gone isnt on encore :b:
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby theJFKshow » Jul 14th, '08, 17:56

Just listen to Big Weenie, My First Single, and Ass Like That. Now compare them to any of his other songs. You can obviously tell he doesn't try on these songs.

I believe he did it on purpose.
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby Darkblade44431 » Jul 14th, '08, 18:07

I don't think he did it on purpose, he just did what he wanted to do. I mean, i think if he did make it suck on purpose to lose fame, it wouldn't help anyways, ppl would still be all over him. Now of course they aren't, but then they would've been. I still stand by what i said about his new album though(nothin bad)
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby Emadyville » Jul 15th, '08, 03:19

SayGoodbyeHollywood wrote:when im gone isnt on encore :b:


Haha yeah I was thinking the same thing, good thing you said it.
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby anniee » Aug 20th, '08, 00:07

i dont care what anyone says, i loved encore. it wasnt his BEST but it was still great!

yellow brick road
mockingbird
like toy soldiers
evil deeds
puke
crazy in love
one shot two shot
spend some time
my 1st single

my favorite songs from the album.
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby B.A.D. » Aug 20th, '08, 21:28

TruEmFan wrote: Hip Hop ruled the music industry from 2000 - 2005.


oh hell naw.. its 2008 and counting....

we don't even hear mariachi no more in mexico, its all about hip hop right now, and shitty hip hop, thats why we need eminem

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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby firepower » Aug 20th, '08, 22:16

Kinda makes sence yeah, good read!
I still got hopes for his new cd tho
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Re: Explanation of Encore

Postby mart85 » Aug 20th, '08, 22:38

here's a part of an interview I read a few days ago and it *partially* explains why Encore wasn't as good. Well not really, but here it is:


Loder: Does your daughter Hailie know who you are, in the full sense of it?

Eminem: Oh, yeah. She does now, she definitely does. She's five years old now, and she's really smart for her age. And my niece lives with us too, and she's eight, and Hailie learns a lot from my niece ... they just feed off each other. It's kind of scary, how smart a little girl can get so quick. She has sleepovers and their friends run around the house, like, "Is that your uncle?" They say, "Hailie, is that your dad? You're so lucky." [They're] getting autographs before I leave, and asking me to come upstairs and rap for them. People used to ask me, "Do you let your daughter listen to your music?" And it used to be � when she couldn't pick up on it � "Yeah, I do." When she didn't understand all the words. But now she's starting to understand all the words, and � especially [with] my new stuff � I can't really play it around her. She picks up on it, and I don't want her to get the wrong idea, because she's not going to know how to take it.

Loder: What words do you not want her to hear?

Eminem: Not just the words: the anger in my voice. I don't bring that around her. That's one thing I don't want her to see or to have to experience. Being this little, the only thing I want her to worry about is playing � What's she going to play with today? Is she going to play with dolls, is she going to color today?

Loder: Are there words or concepts you don't want her to hear either? Or just are there songs you prefer to keep away from her, not just because the anger in them, but because of the things that you are saying?

Eminem: Yeah, it's a combination of things, but I think � mostly with my new material � I think it's the anger in my voice even more so than the words.

Loder: The stuff you're writing now?

Eminem: I used to play my music when � If I was working on something and checking out a mix, I used to play it around her. But now, it's like, I don't even want to do that anymore. The more adult I'm becoming, the more I'm realizing that this might have an affect on her, or it might scare her, or she might hear a word or a sentence that she doesn't know how to take. I'd just rather not even play it around her.
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The part about the anger in his voice. I thought that was an interesting part cause if you listen to the tracks that people don't like on Encore (and ever since) most of the times, he sounds bored, like he's just talking. Even in his good emotional songs on Encore, he sounds bored. One of the reasons is that he mostly talked about pointless stuff and he probably lost that anger/fire in him when he made all those songs. But I guess it was also a conscious decision, to try to make songs with a "lighter" voice. Anyways, like I said, it's not really an explanation, but I thought it was interesting, especially since that interview is from around 2002.
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