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Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby chad08 » Aug 19th, '08, 22:36

it should be.. because they sell pipes bongs papers ect... but they dont sell the weed?
two black gun i dont know, maybe there magnums, i dont know what the fuck there called i just grab them
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Robbie G » Aug 20th, '08, 04:40

so begin chets transformation from nice young guy to stoned drug lord. :'(

I don't know why it's illegal. Cigarettes should be illegal instead as it is more dangerous and addictive. From what I understand that won't happen because the government would lose a ton of cash from taxing it.
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Xray » Aug 21st, '08, 04:00

don't talk about that lung bullshit. cause firstly if you want to get high its because you don't give a fuck or either your tired of giving a fuck. so no smoker even wants to know if its bad for your health cause we all die someday and if its today or tomorrow i don't give a fuck, just don't tell me.
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Epidemik » Aug 21st, '08, 09:37

McMaybe wrote:
Xray wrote:don't talk about that lung bullshit. cause firstly if you want to get high its because you don't give a fuck or either your tired of giving a fuck. so no smoker even wants to know if its bad for your health cause we all die someday and if its today or tomorrow i don't give a fuck, just don't tell me.



Yeah, but the question was why is it illegal... I gave you guys the answer, and what I said is 100% true... that's the reason weed is illegal.


about that money thing...

Californians consume between $870 millionand $ 2 billion worth of medical marijuana per year, according to a report to Oakland’s Measure Z cannabis policy oversight committee.

The report projects that the state could receive some $70 million to $120 million in sales tax revenues alone if medical marijuana was taxed legally like other herbal medicines.

A substantial portion of medical cannabis sales remains off the books due to the continued illegality of cannabis under federal law, which discourages accurate reporting. Despite this, a growing number of communities, led by Oakland, have begun to legally regulate and license medical cannabis sales through dispensaries. Although federal officials have sought to portray dispensaries as criminal enterprises, most have lawfully complied with local regulations like other legal businesses.

According to the Oakland business tax office, the city’s medical cannabis dispensaries reported $26 million in revenues in fiscal year 2004. Revenues declined dramatically to just $5 million in FY 2006 after the city forced all but two of the city’s cannabis clubs to close. Revenue is expected to rebound this year, as two new clubs have opened. The report estimates that potential revenues from medical dispensaries in greater Oakland could range as high as $64 million. Oakland’s cannabis clubs pay the city an annual licensing fee of $20,000 plus a business tax of 0.1 percent on revenues.

California Healthcare Collective Inc., reported paying $93,000 per quarter in federal IRS taxes, $25,000 per quarter in state payroll taxes, and $50-60,000 per month in sales taxes before being raided by the DEA. Closure of the club has deprived the public of over $1 million in tax revenues per year.

State taxpayers currently spend over $160 million per year to arrest, prosecute and imprison cannabis offenders. Altogether, Californians consume nearly $6 billion of cannabis per year. California NORML estimates that the state could net some $1.5 - $2.5 billion per year by legalizing cannabis for general adult use: canorml.org/background/CA_legalization.html.


marijuana can easily make the government a ton of fucking money..
p.s. for the rest of the article... http://www.oaksterdamnews.net/content/view/287/10021/
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Xray » Aug 22nd, '08, 12:43

McMaybe wrote:
Xray wrote:don't talk about that lung bullshit. cause firstly if you want to get high its because you don't give a fuck or either your tired of giving a fuck. so no smoker even wants to know if its bad for your health cause we all die someday and if its today or tomorrow i don't give a fuck, just don't tell me.



Yeah, but the question was why is it illegal... I gave you guys the answer, and what I said is 100% true... that's the reason weed is illegal.

oh i didn't read your post. i know why it's illegal its so people like cocoa can live the "illegal" life.
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Xray » Aug 22nd, '08, 16:17

McMaybe wrote:Lmfao and feel gangsta.

i thought gangstas don't have feelings? i thought they were cold blooded? that explains the tears that dropped from his fat gigantic eye balls, when the bakery was closed during normal week hours.
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Epidemik » Aug 23rd, '08, 00:01

Yeah... No. That's wrong and I don't feel like explaining now cause I just woke up... Just because it CAN make money, doesn't mean it would. Anything that can be gathered by the consumer will lose money for the government. Most weed dealers get their shit from a source that gets it directly from a source that grows it, where is the government making money here?


ya but if they made it legal and controlled the growth and distribution.. it would get rid of alot of "delaers"
either way.. they would be better off legalizing it.. california alone spends $160 million a year fighting it.. why not make money off it rather than spending money to stop what clearly isnt going to go away?
some states already do make loads of money off it anyway.. they should just legalize it in every state..
also.. tobacco and liquior make loads of money for the government.? how is weed any different?
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Epidemik » Aug 24th, '08, 11:45

ok... i looked up why cocaine was made illegal.. i couldnt find anything saying it just wasnt profitable enough..

but anyway back to Weed...

What the government could do is keep laws on cultivating the product (unless licensed just like a brewerey with alcohol) and make the penalties more harsh. same with trafficing unless you have a license to sell it legally, keep it illegal and make the penalties more harsh..
I mean, why risk 20 years in jail for smuggling and distribution charges when you can just go down to your local store and pick up a carton of Happy Smokes? It's a pretty easy choice. Plus, because the federal government can tax sales to death, they could make anywhere from a 75 percent to a 150 percent profit on sales. That would more easily make up for the billions of dollars they have sunk into the FDA and the War on Drugs. Strictly from a business standpoint, it makes a lot of sense.

http://media.www.msureporter.com/media/ ... 7050.shtml

also... if they sold 20 joints just like ciggarettes for say $10 a pack, that would kill "dealers" alone..
average price say $5 a joint on the street... a bit less if you buy in quantity but regardless.. growers and dealers would have to lower prices dramatically to compete.. making the profit not even worth the risk of doing federal time..
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Xray » Aug 25th, '08, 07:40

Epidemik wrote:ok... i looked up why cocaine was made illegal.. i couldnt find anything saying it just wasnt profitable enough..

but anyway back to Weed...

What the government could do is keep laws on cultivating the product (unless licensed just like a brewerey with alcohol) and make the penalties more harsh. same with trafficing unless you have a license to sell it legally, keep it illegal and make the penalties more harsh..
I mean, why risk 20 years in jail for smuggling and distribution charges when you can just go down to your local store and pick up a carton of Happy Smokes? It's a pretty easy choice. Plus, because the federal government can tax sales to death, they could make anywhere from a 75 percent to a 150 percent profit on sales. That would more easily make up for the billions of dollars they have sunk into the FDA and the War on Drugs. Strictly from a business standpoint, it makes a lot of sense.

http://media.www.msureporter.com/media/ ... 7050.shtml

also... if they sold 20 joints just like ciggarettes for say $10 a pack, that would kill "dealers" alone..
average price say $5 a joint on the street... a bit less if you buy in quantity but regardless.. growers and dealers would have to lower prices dramatically to compete.. making the profit not even worth the risk of doing federal time..

your a heavy dealer aren't you? :o
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Epidemik » Aug 25th, '08, 08:56

haha no.. :shifty:
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Sep 3rd, '08, 16:20

didnt read the whole thread but its simple as this.


when the goverment need the tax money they will legalise is, produce it grow it ect. and collect the £1 tax thatll be on it
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Solace » Sep 9th, '08, 00:32

im not gunna read this all. but i think its cause lots of people can do really stupid things while high. like once i remember on the news there was a group of teens who got high, attacked and then raped some 60 year old lady.

shit like that, id rather have less of it.
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Cwayon_Murder » Sep 9th, '08, 03:41

shadymademe wrote:im not gunna read this all. but i think its cause lots of people can do really stupid things while high. like once i remember on the news there was a group of teens who got high, attacked and then raped some 60 year old lady.

shit like that, id rather have less of it.


Drugs don't make you rape 60 year old ladies. Bad parenting, stupidity, and being a total asshole make you rape old ladies.
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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby Epidemik » Sep 9th, '08, 09:51

Cwayon_Murder wrote:
shadymademe wrote:im not gunna read this all. but i think its cause lots of people can do really stupid things while high. like once i remember on the news there was a group of teens who got high, attacked and then raped some 60 year old lady.

shit like that, id rather have less of it.


Drugs don't make you rape 60 year old ladies. Bad parenting, stupidity, and being a total asshole make you rape old ladies.


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Re: Weed: Why Is It Illegal?

Postby DrRapid » Sep 18th, '08, 16:09

I just think smoking weed is not a problem really. Making it legal, well... It can be fun to smoke it in a party once in a while. That's what I've done a few times and no problem.
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