Explanation of Encore

[anniee]

i think eminem just wasnt as passionate for rap like he was in his other albums.

like in my 1st single, he says:

Tryna pick up where the Eminem Show left off
I know anything's possible
Though I'm not gonna top what I sold

he wasnt as faithful in himself, ya know?

[Throwback24]

Just like in basketball, when you lose a step you either play smarter or fade into Bolivian (Ala Jordan, heavily relying on his jumpshot and b-ball IQ in the latter part of his career.) Eminem hasn't shown the ability to keep true to himself and still rap at a high level with his recent *metamorphosis*. I'm tired of all these excuses, the next album Eminem releases will put this kitten to rest. He's either lost it or has something left in the tank.

Although I doubt there's a next album coming anytime soon.

[Throwback24]

Just like in basketball, when you lose a step you either play smarter or fade into Bolivian (Ala Jordan, heavily relying on his jumpshot and b-ball IQ in the latter part of his career.) Eminem hasn't shown the ability to keep true to himself and still rap at a high level with his recent *metamorphosis*. I'm tired of all these excuses, the next album Eminem releases will put this kitten to rest. He's either lost it or has something left in the tank.

I agree.

But it's interesting you mentioned Jordan, because at the end of the day, Michael Jordan is a legend in basketball. Even though he un-retired and joined the Wizards, no one's gonna remember that shit. Fans remember him in Chicago, flying in the air with his tongue out. He will be remembered as one of the best to do it.

I'm not sure if I can say the same for Em. I personally will remember him as being one of the best, but I don't think his fans in general will. Which is sad imo because a few bad songs shouldn't overshadow the great stuff he's done. And he's done some GREAT stuff.

I would even go as far as to say Jordan was still a top 10 player when he made his triumphant return to the Wizards. It was obvious he wasn't the Jordan of old but he utilized his superb knowledge of the game and experience to stay a step of head of the rest of the pack. The angles, the inches, the defensive formations, Jordan saw the game one move ahead. This may be an unjust comparison but I consider Eminem to be one of the greatest if not the best to ever grab hold of a mic.

"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."

And that in essence was what spiraled Jordan to succeed, taking chances and learning from your mistakes. There's a thin line between experimenting/having a good time and just letting yourself go which Eminem clearly did on Encore. I just don't see how you allow yourself to falter that much, in every aspect of life you hold yourself to a level of excellence. You don't go from Hero to Zero overnight and that's what puzzles me about Eminem. I'm sure Em's entourage were with him every step of the way, how do you let someone you consider to be a friend put out material like that? Nothing on 'The Re-up' impressed me either, I'll be the first to admit I hold Em to a higher standard than I do with others but that's because of his earlier work. You can't realistically expect me to hold Fack, Jimmy Crack Corn, Step Right up in the same regard as Guilty Conscience, Square Dance, and Run Rabbit Run. It's like comparing LT to Frank Gore, two different tiers.

[Throwback24]

I heard him say Hailie's name on a song and I just lost it
It was crazy, this shit way beyond some Jay-z and Nas shit
And even though the battle was won, I feel like we lost it
I spent too much energy on it, honestly I'm exhausted
And I'm so caught in it I almost feel I'm the one who caused it

His effort was noted on tracks such as: The Sauce, Nail in the coffin. Both considered to be top 10 diss tracks of all time. It's quite obvious he didn't give two shits about putting out quality material on Encore.

[Throwback24]

You kinda went a little deeper than what I was trying to say , but I respect what you said

When MJ joined the Wizards, sure he still had some game and was the best player on the team, but he didn't even make it to the playoffs. Like with Em's Encore. He had some great songs on there, and his album was arguably better than a lot of other rapper's albums out at the time, but it didn't compare to his past work, critically and commercially.

My whole point is MJ is not going to be remembered for his stuff with the Wizards. He'll be remembered in his prime. Em, on the otherhand, if he doesn't come out with anything that tops or equals his first 3 albums, I think a lot of his fans will remember him for the "lesser" songs.

Naw, I caught that. I just went off on a tangent and ended up forgetting to go back to that at the end of my post lol. I def. agree with your last sentence. On every forum I frequent you have someone who'll bring up Em and I can't help but think in past tense. Everything relating to Em is in past tense.

He *use* to be relevant in the game.
He *use* to put the illest shit out.
He *was* the best rapper on the planet for a span of 2-3 years.

And then I ultimately go from that to Encore which then ties into Eminem "falling off." Nas and Jay aged more gracefully, it's Eminem's terrible attempts at humor (smack a child actors butt) and juvenile body noses that turned everyone against him.

[anniee]

alright no offense but you guys are taking this way too deeply lol. its just an album that maybe wasnt as good as his others.


i think the eminem fans compared encore to his other shit and were upset with it, when really its not that bad. just not as good as eminem can do, ya know?


thats why i think people say its worse then it really is. hes got some of his best work on there guys. it wasnt totally terrible. it was just so-so, when were used to eminem doing amazing.

[Emadyville]

Wouldn't fans remember him for his best songs? If they are fans, am I wrong here?

[shadysully22]

Okay, where do I start? SSLP was ridiclulous!!! MMLP was better in my opinion. TES was also rididculous, how could you ever say that album was not good? There is not one song from that album I did not like. Encore is not anywhere up to par with his other albums but it still has like 10 sick songs!! There are a couple of weird songs on there but even on the weird songs like Big Weenie he still kills it on a couple of parts. It is not like Encore had no good songs, he might have just rushed the album or something. 16 songs on the album and I love 10 of them.....not a bad album to me!!

[Emadyville]

Okay, where do I start? SSLP was ridiclulous!!! MMLP was better in my opinion. TES was also rididculous, how could you ever say that album was not good? There is not one song from that album I did not like. Encore is not anywhere up to par with his other albums but it still has like 10 sick songs!! There are a couple of weird songs on there but even on the weird songs like Big Weenie he still kills it on a couple of parts. It is not like Encore had no good songs, he might have just rushed the album or something. 16 songs on the album and I love 10 of them.....not a bad album to me!!

True but remember we are all comparing it to the stuff he did earlier, like you said, all ridiculous. Encore = not ridiculous.

[,-,'-{Bar}-',-,]

i read the first post fuck the rest coz this discussion shouldnt have amde it this far one saying sums it up.


"pulling at straws"


please, make yourself bad ? great fuckign excuse for anyone that has ever falling off "oh i ment it coz i didnt want the publicity anymore"

whoever beileives this shit is a fucking imbacile

[Emadyville]

i read the first post fuck the rest coz this discussion shouldnt have amde it this far one saying sums it up.


"pulling at straws"


please, make yourself bad ? great fuckign excuse for anyone that has ever falling off "oh i ment it coz i didnt want the publicity anymore"

whoever beileives this shit is a fucking imbacile

a fucking mend....he wasn't trying to be bad...he did what he was thinking we wanted and fucked up

Or he was doing what Jimmy wanted

[infrowland]

He put out straight from the lab EP which had 7 really good songs which could have been on encore to make it a much better album

[Emadyville]

He put out straight from the lab EP which had 7 really good songs which could have been on encore to make it a much better album

This was talked about but I can't help but re-agree.