Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

[$0 R3@L]

Because love it or hate it but gay people are constantly attacked,both physically and mentally.If your parents are gay and your friends in school for example find out,you will be bullied to say the least.How can you even consider this the best posistion to place a child.Not to mention gay people run a MUCH higher risk of having aids! and drug usage which is popular within the gay community.

And they do 'choose' to be gay like i choose not to be.This bullshit about being born a homo is bollocks.Your emotions and your lifestyle is a repersentation of the enviorment you grow within.You will notice alot of gay people are within the rich crowd and also a number of them had a 'forceful' parent...this isnt 'self-acceptance' ,this is self-choice.

[joelle]

Because love it or hate it but gay people are constantly attacked,both physically and mentally.

If gay people are constantly attacked, that's society's problem and something society should fix. Each straight person should get off their high horse of the opposite gender and learn to respect others, and teach their kids to do the same. That'll benefit everyone way more than not allowing orphaned kids to go to loving homes will. Your solution to stop them being attacked is to...what? Be homophobic?

If your parents are gay and your friends in school for example find out,you will be bullied to say the least.How can you even consider this the best posistion to place a child.

Newsflash..all kids get bullied. Should people with eyesight problems not be allowed to have kids? Kids with glasses get picked on, too. Mixed kids get bullied..maybe white people and black people shouldn't be allowed to fuck, cuz their kid might be picked on. FYI, kids are cruel. They will ALWAYS bully one another. It's a fact of life and nothing will change that.

Not to mention gay people run a MUCH higher risk of having aids! and drug usage which is popular within the gay community.

Yeah and I hear crime is popular amongst the black community. Perhaps black people shouldn't be allowed to adopt, either. And hey, I hear Asian people are bad drivers. Maybe they shouldn't be allowed to adopt. You're generalizing. Just so you know..adoption agencies don't just toss out kids at random and whoever catches them is their parent. There's a whole legal system with a series of background checks. Pretty sure a couple of AIDS-infested drug addicts wouldn't be allowed to adopt..

And they do 'choose' to be gay like i choose not to be.This bullshit about being born a homo is bollocks.Your emotions and your lifestyle is a repersentation of the enviorment you grow within.You will notice alot of gay people are within the rich crowd and also a number of them had a 'forceful' parent...this isnt 'self-acceptance' ,this is self-choice.

That's bullshit and you know it. You didn't wake up one day and flip a coin to decide if you'd like men or women. Who in their right mind would CHOOSE to be gay? You think they enjoy being told they can't get married or have a family or leave their house for fear of infecting all of us with their homoness? Yeah, I'm sure there's a line waiting for that lifestyle. You can't choose your emotions. You can't choose what you like. You like what you like, you're attracted to what you're attracted to. I can't think of a single person who would choose to be gay..which usually goes hand-in-hand with disownment, getting bullied, depression, loss of friends, discrimination, etc etc etc.

[$0 R3@L]

Whatever...you obviously dismiss everyone elses views and opinions and only wish to accept your own.

I cant be botherd to talk bout and wit da homos

[yoshi]

Wasn't it supposed to be about gay people adopting children? It's not about whether they choose to be gay or not, it's about whether they should get a chance to adopt a kid. So no, they shouldn't. And I'm not saying it because I'm against gay people, some kind of sick homophobe. No, I'm saying it because I believe that by raising children both parents - mother and father - are needed. No matter how "feminine" will a guy be, he won't replace the MOTHER for a girl and two women won't make it for a FATHER. Or the other way around. I know kids want to be loved, fed and kissed goodnight, but the thing is, that there are always issues that girls want talk about with their mothers. And mother is always the one who's gonna kiss your finger when it's injuried, who's gonna wait for you at home with hot meal and so on.. No one can replace a mother in kid's life and no one can replace a father. Kids [no matter if boy or girl] need to have parents of both sexes to see the difference between them. Men are different than women, women are different than men. That's how it works since centuries and I don't see any reason to change it. And I'd like to make it clear once again - I'm not homophobic, I don't say gays are pedophiles, zoophiles or whatever. It's just that a gay can't be a mother and a lesbian can't be a father.

[LoCoScousa]

If gay people are constantly attacked, that's society's problem and something society should fix. Each straight person should get off their high horse of the opposite gender and learn to respect others, and teach their kids to do the same.

How about everyone has their own views, you can not change it, you might be one of these society peace loving hippy nut jobs, but me... i see homosexuals as wrong, thats my view exactly the same as many more, i will also teach my children that its wrong.

Problem? Simply take it up with someone that gives a shit about homosexuals.

In the bible its Adam and Eve Not Adam and Ewan.
(not a religions person, just example.)

Never have i disrespected anyone/anything, but i will disrespect humans that shit stab.
Simple because its disgusting.

As i said, Its a possibility! yeah gay people might want a child, but two cock sucking men with a child don't look good to the out side world, (specially if they ask for a boy. ) Anyway i don't give a toss, i stand by what i said, GAYS shouldn't be aloud to adopt, for the simple reason both sides of the parental skills are need to evolve a child into adult hood on a scale from both male and female parents, as any child needs a femanine side aswell as masculine one.
For that other wanker james.r, it has nothing to do with infertile beings when i say " tough fucking titty" to gay people just because they haven't the facilities within their own body's between them to create a child, difference being an infertile couple has, i would gladly hand over a child for adoption to an infertile couple after various checks to make sure the child has a secure, safe and stable life within that family. (Nothing to do with gays, Big Difference You Stupid Prick! The whole conversation is about gay couples adopting children, not straight couples that cannot conceive. "Dip Shit" ? )

To sum this up, your both defending gays when you don't know the out come, the issue is to do with "Should gays be able to adopt?" I have gave my view and you pair have miss interpreted it.
The higher percentage of the world do not like gays for the same reasons if not more ever changing ones, stop fighting their corner when they probably wouldn't fight yours.

(Oh yeah, the plane analogy far from stands, you cannot compare the flight of a mechanical device to having sex with the same sex. As its Biology not Physics.)

[joelle]

How about everyone has their own views, you can not change it, you might be one of these society peace loving hippy nut jobs, but me... i see homosexuals as wrong, thats my view exactly the same as many more, i will also teach my children that its wrong.

If you're helping to promote the "attacks" then you cannot argue that that's a reason gay people can't adopt.

In the bible its Adam and Eve Not Adam and Ewan.
(not a religions person, just example.)

Ok. In the bible it's also "no incest", though how do you think we all decended from Adam and Eve? Somebody had to be screwing their sister.
In the bible it's also Thou shalt not kill....what were with the Crusades then?
In the bible it's "do not molest little boys"...clearly certain priests don't follow that.
The bible is shit. Don't use it as an example at all, especially if you're not religious.

Never have i disrespected anyone/anything, but i will disrespect humans that shit stab.
Simple because its disgusting.

You must be a very unhappy little boy.

As i said, Its a possibility! yeah gay people might want a child, but two cock sucking men with a child don't look good to the out side world, (specially if they ask for a boy. )

Ok.......and a straight man clearly likes vagina, so he shouldn't be allowed to have a girl, then. Your arguments, as every anti-adoption argument is in this thread, is completely illogical with no basis behind it. You're just repeating yourself. "Homosexuality is icky." Ok? So don't be one. But don't tell them how to live their life. It has nothing to do with you.

Anyway i don't give a toss, i stand by what i said, GAYS shouldn't be aloud to adopt, for the simple reason both sides of the parental skills are need to evolve a child into adult hood on a scale from both male and female parents, as any child needs a femanine side aswell as masculine one.

ok, so what about single parents, via divorce, death, what have you? Should they have their kids taken away? I know plenty of well nurtured, roundly developed teenagers and adults who grew up in single parent homes. I stand by what I said. A kid doesn't need a mom and a dad. A kid needs a HAPPY mom/dad. A kid needs love, nurturing, support, and a little money doesn't hurt....all of those things it can get with gay parents. That's a fact.

For that other wanker james.r,

hahahaha I think you made him cry a little.

i would gladly hand over a child for adoption to an infertile couple after various checks to make sure the child has a secure, safe and stable life within that family. (Nothing to do with gays, Big Difference You Stupid Prick! The whole conversation is about gay couples adopting children, not straight couples that cannot conceive. "Dip Shit" ? )

And if various checks were done to ensure that a child was secure, safe, and stable with gay parents, you'd protest? You have no reasons to suggest a child wouldn't be these things, other than your opinion, which, on the grand scheme of things, means nothing. Nor does mine. Nor does anyone's. But I'm not arrogant enough to believe that my opinion should affect anyone else's life. And why don't you try owning up to what you said instead of saying "but thats not what I meant" and using pathetic name-calling? You said what you said, regardless of what you meant.

To sum this up, your both defending gays when you don't know the out come, the issue is to do with "Should gays be able to adopt?" I have gave my view and you pair have miss interpreted it.
The higher percentage of the world do not like gays for the same reasons if not more ever changing ones, stop fighting their corner when they probably wouldn't fight yours.

Ok...your point? The higher percentage of the world once thought it was flat. Did that make them right?
Also, you'll find that if you don't stand for anyone just because you're not one of them, no one will ever stand for you, either.

(Oh yeah, the plane analogy far from stands, you cannot compare the flight of a mechanical device to having sex with the same sex. As its Biology not Physics.)

If you can't wrap your mind around a simple analogy, that's not my problem.

Anyways, I'm done here. This argument is going in circles and honestly? No one's saying anything new, and certainly nothing that makes sense. It's beginning to bore me.

P.s.
"50Cent, James.R and Joelle All Love Shit Stabbing In Their Own Little Fucked Up Way's! "
should be:
"50 Cent, James R., and Joelle All Love Shit-Stabbing in Their Own Little Fucked-Up Ways!"
Try and form a comprehendible sentence. Thanks.

[AspirinE]

Ok a lot of people are missing the point the point of the discussion, especially the pro-faggotry coalition.

It all comes to to what you relate homosexuality to. To me homosexuality is the same disorder as pedophilia and other absurd fetishes that don't make any sense (and don't quote me to try to prove me wrong since there is no difference between the two fetishes except one is more harmful). If a child has an opportunity to be adopted by a straight couple they should get priority, if in unfavorable circumstances a child is to be adopted by gay people they shouldn't be classed as "parents" because they cant be parents, parents are wife and husband, not guy and guy or girl and girl. Guardian status ... maybe, cause a guardian can be a single "parent", but family values are much more important then gay rights, especially if your country has a problem with decreasing population (like mine). It's only a better solution to decrease the number of kids given up for adoption then to make adoption easier and as means of satisfying gay population.


edit: sorry i forgot to implement a random insult to people that have opposing views. [brit]ya fellas are all wankas and tossers[/brit]

[LoCoScousa]

Joelle, stop being so naive over gay people and them wanting to adopt, if they want to they can, i just don't agree with it and never will, this is why i shall pass it onto my children as it has through my family.

Everyone has a view of right and wrong, now see past your own.

Now take on board that i don't give a toss even though you do hold a good argument, even if it is about gays.

AsprinE, I completely agree with you, this is what i tried to say first time round.
But was bombarded with insults.

You're just repeating yourself. "Homosexuality is icky." Ok? So don't be one. But don't tell them how to live their life. It has nothing to do with you.

From the horses mouth, i was reapeating my self just to let you know i wasn't branding all gays as pedos, some could be yes, but i know that all are not, mabey to each other (The main point.) as i don't know what posses people to do such things, but take a leaf out of your own book please, my veiw has nothing to do with you or anyone else for that matter.

all of those things it can get with gay parents. That's a fact.

O'Kay, you might thinks so, i will let your veiw go untouched because I'm not the one being a complete control freak.

Oh... also for that comment on the decent sentance, its a good shot consdering i have only attended school for just over six years of my life, that would mean i barly left elementary in your country. O'kay.
Try and learn not to tell me how to run my life, wether it be from a simple sentance, to a gay person that wants to adopt. Thanks.

[ToxicBlood]

A gay man should try to breastfeed his adopted baby, he'll figure out that it's unnatural for a kid not to have a mother.

[Robbie G]

I agree with asp and Bar.

don't bump old threads..

[Solace]

Yes.

[<Stiiccy>]

hell no...
no offence to fags
but a kid dont need to be around that shit

[<Stiiccy>]

Yes.