Rap vs Hip Hop

[<Stiiccy>]

im not hip i can't hop very well
but my wrapping skills are great

[Slim Zaddy]

I see hip-hop as the whole, the dress, the style, the dj's, the clubs, the money, the alcohol, etc. I see rap as being part of hip-hop along with R&B and soul, maybe even jazz just because of the roots.

In regards to artists I think lyricism is rap (Em, Jay, Nas, Lupe, Luda, Pac, Big, etc)
And that's because rap is freestyling and battling, which all involves lyricism, punchlines, humor, rhyming, etc.

And in regards to hip-hop I see artists like- 50 cent, Dre, Jeezy, Wayne, etc.
This is because they seem to focus more on the culture then the actual lyricism shit, although they all have songs that would fit my idea of "rap", so it's obviously debatable.

There are obviously also some that will mix, at least in my mind. For instance Game has always been pretty lyrical but he's basically the definition of hip-hop too. That's why I think this is such a hard thing to define.

great topic

And souja boy I consider exploitation of hip-hop.

i guess you hve covered the whole thing ,, ummm, ha nah , nothin to spit more .. enough said

[neb121]

i actually think hip hop and rap have a different beat.

rap is more gangsta and hip hop is more something you can dance too.
cuz like Mariah carey is half hip hop so it doesnt always have to be a rapper.
akon is also half hip hop and he more sings
so i think it is the beat of the music.

[Ak25]

Rap - Ice Cube
Hip-Hop - Soulja Boy...

Rap - Papoose
Hip-Hop - Soulja Boy....

Rap is just more hardcore

[kalbird]

i was like 13-14 when i heard this guy once and this was his way to explain the difference between rap and hip hop lol "so, see, rap is like.. hip hop without the beat" i didn't have much to say about it back in the days when i was 13, but then i worked the difference out myself

i just wanted to know how do you guys see the difference. for me it's like rap is just a kind of music, and hip hop is a culture, a movement, which includes rap, graffiti, breakdance, dj-ing, beatboxing and so on.. I think we r in the same boat. That's the way i understand both of them.

i always lol @ people who are like "well.. Usher ain't rap, he's hip hop" or "rap/hip hop artist, Eminem" - wtf

dunno, that's just me. anyone's got a different point?

[Boston]

Rap - Ice Cube
Hip-Hop - Soulja Boy...

Rap - Papoose
Hip-Hop - Soulja Boy....

Rap is just more hardcore

completely wrong IMO.

well i can't say that because sadly this is what hip hop turned into.
but no way represents it. its sad to see

[James R.]

Somehow I haven't replied to this and if I have I can't find my reply. Well here goes.

The notion that hip-hop and rap are different styles of music is completely incorrect. Hip-hop is the culture that includes music, clothing, food, slang, and the race to achieve success. Rap is simply a part of hip-hop that can be further broken down into the categories that are being argued which is classic/old school (Run DMC, NWA), dance (Soulja Boy, DJ Unk), hardcore (Styles P), acid (Eshom), horrorcore (...I dunno... some old Three-6 Mafia), underground (what people seem to consider real rap), and commercial (which is everything combined into a marketed product, this is more or less the business end of rap).

So, simply put, to try to choose rap over hip hop would be like choosing the heart over the entire body. You can prefer that organ, but it's only a part of a larger organism, and on the other hand to accept the entire body would mean to accept organs you weren't fond of... like the liver or something. It's all packaged together.

[Tekdino]

This topic is fucking irritating.

Just think about it.

-what do you do, you sing?
-no, I hip-hop.

Another:

-under what culture is breakdance?
-under rap

*brains running idle*

Would it be so funny to just accept that hip-hop is the "culture" and rap is the rythmical argumentating by poetry or whatever the R.A.P came from. I'm too lazy to check with google...

It's just awkward how lil gangsta kids are calling everything good rap and everything stupid hip-hop/RnB. That's just because they don't want to admit that some Christina Aquileras are rapping when they are. As if just rapping makes one a genius...

[neb121]

i really think and have heard it is in the beat. like i said before. hip hop is more of a hip beat and rap is more gangsta. it also is the style aswell.

[Darkblade44431]

Rap isn't more "gangsta"....stop pulling that out of mainstream shit.

[neb121]

i wasnt.

i was saying my opinion.
it is in the beat but my opinion is that rap is more gangsta.
and hip hop is more hip.

[yoshi]

lol @ people who still claim that 'rap' is more gangsta than 'hip hop' after like 3 pages of discussing it and coming to a conclusion it is NOT?

hip hop is bigger than rap, it consists of more elements. it's a way of life, a culture, a style.. check out Guru's Jazzalude III - 'hip hop is the lifestyle, the philosophy, even the religion.. just as jazz had had it's own culture, rap music has it's own culture which we proudly call hip hop..

[neb121]

im not hip i can't hop very well
but my wrapping skills are great

yeah not the same thing lol

[Ak25]

Listen to the album "Fundamentals Of Hip-Hop" - KRS ONE

[Tash8]

i really think and have heard it is in the beat. like i said before. hip hop is more of a hip beat and rap is more gangsta. it also is the style aswell.

your a moron

im not hip i can't hop very well
but my wrapping skills are great

yeah not the same thing lol

did i forget to mention that your a moron?