Chamillionare Talks about Call with Eminem

[Requiem]

Lil Wayne never called him personally. His people reached out to his people to do a song, but he wouldn't.

too many quoting in this page

i like u true think, eminem is the most talented person, but then agian we can probably relate to him more than let's say a person who grew up in the hood can relate to nas more..

I know, but that's personal preference. On the other board I was talking about, most of them are black (and let's face it, most of the people Em relates to are white) and they give Em the respect he deserves. They hold him in the caliber of a Jay-Z or Nas. Whether they can relate to it or not, or whether they enjoy the content of Em's songs or not, the talent is still there and can't be denied.

very true, because everyone i talk too, (yes, even the Soulja/Weezy freaks) all respect Eminem as an artist. Love him or hate him, they can't deny he changed the game, bridged a gap, and has just a incredible amount of talent. And he's been on 106 and park, and at Bet awards. he's got respect from alot of people.

[Throwback24]

Lil Wayne never called him personally. His people reached out to his people to do a song, but he wouldn't.

too many quoting in this page

i like u true think, eminem is the most talented person, but then agian we can probably relate to him more than let's say a person who grew up in the hood can relate to nas more..

I know, but that's personal preference. On the other board I was talking about, most of them are black (and let's face it, most of the people Em relates to are white) and they give Em the respect he deserves. They hold him in the caliber of a Jay-Z or Nas. Whether they can relate to it or not, or whether they enjoy the content of Em's songs or not, the talent is still there and can't be denied.

I'm black and I relate more to Eminem than I do any other rapper (outside of Joe Budden and Slugs but even then Eminem hits home a lot more). I give Em the respect he deserves but that's where it stops. When both Nas and Jay had colossal failures(Nastradamus - Nas, The Dynasty - Jay) failures they came back and proved everyone wrong. What distinguishes Jay/Nas from Em is longevity, they're not what they used to be but their differentiating styles kept them on top of their game. Em's different style is and lyrical content is intolerable. I'm not questioning Em's talent, I'm not questioning Em's talent to put out another good album, I'm questioning his maturity and ear for music. If he thinks Encore what was his fans wanted You guys are in for one helluva surprise. If Em can look at me with a straight face and tell me he put actual time into Encore, I'd quit being a fan.

[Throwback24]

Both of them have a few of what many consider classic albums (Nas - Illmatic, Stillmatic, possibly It Was Written; Jay - Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint), while Em has 3 out of his 4. And I know some people are going to disagree that The SSLP, MMLP, and TES aren't "classics," but from what I've heard generally from fans and journalists, they are.

SSLP, MMLP are comparable to Nas and Jays classics. I guess what puts Jay and Nas ahead of Em is their catalogs and consistency (at least to me).

You said his new album will just prove that he's not in the same category as people like Jay and Nas, but I argue that he already is, just from the past shit he's done. He's already got a spot there.

I'll stop being so negative about his "up coming" album but there will be a Untitled vs. BP3 vs. Em thread coming soon. And that's dependent on whether or not Em comes out with an album cause we all know Jay will.

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I'm black and I relate more to Eminem than I do any other rapper (outside of Joe Budden and Slugs but even then Eminem hits home a lot more). I give Em the respect he deserves but that's where it stops. When both Nas and Jay had colossal failures(Nastradamus - Nas, The Dynasty - Jay) failures they came back and proved everyone wrong. What distinguishes Jay/Nas from Em is longevity, they're not what they used to be but their differentiating styles kept them on top of their game.

I agree that Jay and Nas seem to be more consitent with their work, which is why they stay at the top but if you look at their discography, they have a lot more shit than Em does. Both of them have a few of what many consider classic albums (Nas - Illmatic, Stillmatic, possibly It Was Written; Jay - Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint), while Em has 3 out of his 4. And I know some people are going to disagree that The SSLP, MMLP, and TES aren't "classics," but from what I've heard generally from fans and journalists, they are. Em may not have been on a more consistent level, but he's had a longer run at the top.

You said his new album will just prove that he's not in the same category as people like Jay and Nas, but I argue that he already is, just from the past shit he's done. He's already got a spot there.

well classics or not ill just think who has more good albums ? coz its nas (i dont rate jay so wont comment)


but i get what yout talking about me n tash were actually talking about it last night, and came to the conclusion that if you compare nas and eminem from 1999 they have basicaly the same workload and ill not give my opinion on the best albums coz em got three classics and from 1999 everyone would say nas only got 1 (stillmatic) but for me as a nas fan he has 3 (stillmatic, gods son and untitled) but then again i dont think it was written was classic when generally people do, overall for me nas got 4 classics, what i mentioned and illmatic..but the one thing both me and tash agreed on was that the thing that seperates eminem from nas and jay-z is that they did not pussy out releasing a album coz they had a flop, they picked thereselves up and got back on top...eminem hasnt done this and its taking him a long time to do it if he does do it.

but before anyone hates, we also got the reason why this is (only comparing nas and eminem here), Eminem is not a concept rapper, if nothing big has happened in his life he cant go into a studio and think of a concept like, Fetus, No Idea's Original, Fried Chicken ect. coz thats not the type of rapper eminem is he is extremely personel and raps about expeirence or feeling/thoughts , he doesnt do the smart metaphor track so its harder for him to lock himself in a studio and think of dope concepts coz thats not what he's used to doin hes used to having a feeling and rapping about it (like being really pissed at alot of people so doin the way i am).

now again so no one hates, im not saying he isnt creative, he is, just listen to SSLP tracks like brain damage thats random story being creative and funny he is creative but isnt creative about smart concepts, hes creative in expressing his personel feeling and humor, and underground emienm wouldnt have a problem either coz back then he did lyrical excersice type tracks but he hasnt did one of them since bad meets evil on SSLP (i think) so thats why its most likely taking so long.

[SayGoodbyeHollywood]

now again so no one hates, im not saying he isnt creative, he is, just listen to SSLP tracks like brain damage thats random story being creative and funny he is creative but isnt creative about smart concepts, hes creative in expressing his personel feeling and humor, and underground emienm wouldnt have a problem either coz back then he did lyrical excersice type tracks but he hasnt did one of them since bad meets evil on SSLP (i think) so thats why its most likely taking so long.

i see what your saying but back in the day like on SSLP he does have good concepts on certain songs like you said but just because he hasnt done a song like that in a while doesnt mean "he cant go in the studio and think of a concept". i feel em chooses to stay away from that style of rapping he chooses to stay more personal but he can like he showed us "..like you said and i agree that nas is a better at expressing his concepts but hes always done that and stays with that style.. eminem changes it up gives us all different styles.. tracks like business til i collapse arent really personal songs not as lyrical as bad meets evil but their not personal so saying that if nothing has happened in his life he cant do a track is stretching it a lil bit

[Tash8]

^ till i collapse is a pretty personal song, he's saying i'm not giving up till i collapse and get my respect

[Kez]

but before anyone hates, we also got the reason why this is (only comparing nas and eminem here), Eminem is not a concept rapper, if nothing big has happened in his life he cant go into a studio and think of a concept like, Fetus, No Idea's Original, Fried Chicken ect. coz thats not the type of rapper eminem is he is extremely personel and raps about expeirence or feeling/thoughts , he doesnt do the smart metaphor track so its harder for him to lock himself in a studio and think of dope concepts coz thats not what he's used to doin hes used to having a feeling and rapping about it (like being really pissed at alot of people so doin the way i am).

Hit the nail on the head

[SayGoodbyeHollywood]

^ till i collapse is a pretty personal song, he's saying i'm not giving up till i collapse and get my respect

i agree somewhat but TIC is not on the same levels as like the way i am or cleanin out my closet or yellow brick road where everything is about his personal life ..

[Hadez]

they can't deny he changed the game

you guys keep saying that. but no he hasn't changed anything. he just jumped in and said hey look at me! everybody looked then kept doin what they were doin. he didn't change anything, he just happened.

[Tash8]

they can't deny he changed the game

you guys keep saying that. but no he hasn't changed anything. he just jumped in and said hey look at me! everybody looked then kept doin what they were doin. he didn't change anything, he just happened.

ur right he didn't change at all, just add about 100k new white rap fans..

[grabdat]

It's funny to me that Em's own fans won't hold him in that high self-esteem with Jay-Z, Nas, Rakim, etc. when others, even the rappers themselves, do.

THIS.