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Are Abortions Moral?

Postby Robbie G » Sep 30th, '08, 03:48

First off I don't think it is right, and I would never let it be done to my kid.

If a girl goes out and has sex and gets pregnant she needs to take responsibility for her actions. Abortion for the most part is just the easy way out. Also I don't buy the "do what you wan't with YOUR body". Well no, it's not like you no longer want your appendix and your cutting it out. Your killing ANOTHER life.

The only times that I can see an abortion is in cases of incest or really young rape. I guess it's also better if it's early in the pregnancy, like the first few weeks. I just find it disgusting when like 6-7 months in and they want an abortion.

And finally live birth abortions make me sick, and is the same in my eyes as murder.

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One night, a nursing co-worker was taking a Down’s syndrome baby who was aborted alive to our Soiled Utility Room because his parents did not want to hold him, and she did not have time to hold him. I could not bear the thought of this suffering child dying alone in a Soiled Utility Room, so I cradled and rocked him for the 45 minutes that he lived. He was between 21 and 22 weeks old, weighed about 1/2 pound, and was about 10 inches long. He was too weak to move very much, expending any energy he had trying to breathe. Toward the end he was so quiet that I could not tell if he was still alive. I held him up to the light to see through his chest wall whether his heart was still beating. After he was pronounced dead, we folded his little arms across his chest, wrapped him in a tiny shroud, and carried him to the hospital morgue where all of our dead patients are taken.



well there's my rant discuss.
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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby BlaqReaper » Sep 30th, '08, 03:55

Your story isn't an abortion...it's infanticide and that's truly despicable and I hope the parents get what they deserved. However, I do support abortion because who gives me the right to say what a pregnant woman should do with her fetus/body (sorry you said not to use that but I can't help it...it's a decent argument).

I'm glad you at least agree that abortion should be allowed for girls who are raped because she may not be able to support the baby, financially/emotionally. Plus, think of the kid:

"Mommy, how was I born? Where was my Daddy?"

"Awwww...Honey, you were a rape child."

All jokes aside, I think another good reason for abortion is if their child/fetus is detected with some terminal/horrible disease and the parent feels there would be less suffering if the baby was never born and aware to begin with.

I think abortion should be legal, but people shouldn't abuse it.
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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby Robbie G » Sep 30th, '08, 03:58

BlaqReaper wrote:All jokes aside, I think another good reason for abortion is if their child/fetus is detected with some terminal/horrible disease and the parent feels there would be less suffering if the baby was never born and aware to begin with.


Yeah, I completely agree with that. :y:

Oh and screw Obama for supporting Infanticide:

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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby Robbie G » Sep 30th, '08, 04:15

Chet wrote:Yes it should

I don't know what else to say :(


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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby Emadyville » Sep 30th, '08, 04:31

Yes it should. And like many before me have said, I have nothing else to say lol. Actually I'll explain my opinion why tomo, I need to go to bed. Goodnight TR people!

Edit: Okay here's my opinion on why it should be legal. I think that in some a decent percentage of cases a girl gets pregnant who doesn't want a child, can't support it, or is not fit to be a parent. I think that th choice should be up to the woman since it's her body. And while I do think in a lot of ways it's wrong, I think if I was born into the circumstances I would rather have not been born because a lot of times those are kids who grow up into the criminal life, and that affects others negatively. Also the world is getting way too overpopulated, and while we all can't say anything cause we are all here, that's just how I feel. Not to say my opinion won't change over time, this is just how I feel now.
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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby Tash8 » Sep 30th, '08, 05:18

Yes it should be legal, fucking conservatives!

If we're going to legalize gay marriage then abortion and marijuana should be legal.
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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby ShadyHerb » Sep 30th, '08, 05:38

I believe abortion should be legal. Because first off your taking away the choice for women to make on whether they want to keep it or not. I hate how people hype it up saying its taking away a life. Its not even considered human till it reaches nine weeks. Also what if they got raped or it was an incest case where they don't want to deal with that. Abortion just needs to be in the decision of the mother. So Fuck all you pro-life loser. :n: I'm for pro choice! :y:
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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby Xray » Sep 30th, '08, 06:08

wait abortion isn't legal? :confusion:
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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby Hadez » Sep 30th, '08, 06:59

i didn't read anyone else's posts. but here's mine.


abortion will prolly be forever legal. i only condone it if the girl was raped, that's somethin she don't have control over. but the problem with that is every girl will say she was raped. they could just make it 100% illegal no exceptions but rape victims will get screwed over if the rapist got them pregnant. so in a way the victim is bein punished for being impregnated from a rape.

so yes, it should be legal. for that reason and that reason alone.

EDIT: i just read the quote in the first post. while i think it should stay legal, it should, however, be illegal to kill it once it's got a heartbeat.
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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby notoriouS-K-M » Sep 30th, '08, 09:02

Yeah whatever...it should be legal. I mean killing all these Iraqis and Afghanis and all the racial killings happening in Africa those are murders, abortion isn't. But i think if u can't support a child it would make more sense taking contraceptive pills before having sex......or if u never wanna have a child then getting ur ovaries removed.
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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby Kez » Sep 30th, '08, 09:36

Xray wrote:wait abortion isn't legal? :confusion:


Yeah my thoughts exactly.

Anyway, i hate to be the guy to disagree with the rest of you, but you don't have any right to say anything, frankly. You think it's immoral, fine, but don't be a prick and force your opinion as fact onto everyone.

i would never let it be done to my kid


Well fine. Nobody's trying to make you do it to your kid.
Just like nobody is making you go around shouting what you think to everyone.

If young idiot girls get pregnant and they are forced to have the baby, can you imagine it's upbringing? In poverty with a mother that didn't want it but was forced to because of people on moral high horses such as yourself.

So i think it should be legal.
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Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Postby Robbie G » Sep 30th, '08, 11:50

Tash8 wrote:Yes it should be legal, fucking conservatives!

If we're going to legalize gay marriage then abortion and marijuana should be legal.


Well i think Gay marriage should be legalized even though I don't care for it. It's blocked for religious reasons and they shouldn't be tied to the government.

Also I changed the title to is it moral. because it will always be legal for what hadez said and the fact that if doctors can't do it women will try to do ti themselves and mess it up. :n:
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Re: Are Abortions Moral?

Postby Tornado » Sep 30th, '08, 14:22

only if the girl is raped and/or child has some disease ( what Blaqreaper was saying) other that that, is wrong to me
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Re: Are Abortions Moral?

Postby yoshi » Oct 1st, '08, 11:16

It's not about being "moral" but "justified". Like almost everyone said - rape is one of the justified cases - you cannot make a woman want a baby which 'comes' from rape. The only problem is that a woman could easily admit that she was raped, so it'd be up to the judge and physicians. There are ways to confirm the rape, to give an exact date when the baby was conceived, so I think it could work.

The other case which I think might be a reason for abortion is when a child has some genetic disease. There are some diseases that cause death in the few weeks/months/years after birth (Patau Syndrome, Edwards Syndrome), babies are born deformed, with genetic defects.. It's hard to tell, because some parents probably would like to have the chance to hold the baby anyway, so they'd like it to be born.. Others wouldn't, so that's why I said that 'might' be a reason for abortion.

Next case: if having the baby could cause mother's death. She shouldn't be forced to have the baby and die.

Abortion should not be used as a way of getting rid of the baby because "oh, i forgot bout the condom" or something like that, and it's something we all agree about. And also having abortion in 7 or 8th month should be totally prohibited, that's just inhuman and abominable.

But making abortion illegal won't solve the problem, I'd say it'd increase it. There are hundreds of doctors that would do it for some extra money, without asking "why". So I say we should keep it legal in justified cases.
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Re: Are Abortions Moral?

Postby Robbie G » Oct 1st, '08, 11:54

yoshi wrote:It's not about being "moral" but "justified". Like almost everyone said - rape is one of the justified cases - you cannot make a woman want a baby which 'comes' from rape. The only problem is that a woman could easily admit that she was raped, so it'd be up to the judge and physicians. There are ways to confirm the rape, to give an exact date when the baby was conceived, so I think it could work.

The other case which I think might be a reason for abortion is when a child has some genetic disease. There are some diseases that cause death in the few weeks/months/years after birth (Patau Syndrome, Edwards Syndrome), babies are born deformed, with genetic defects.. It's hard to tell, because some parents probably would like to have the chance to hold the baby anyway, so they'd like it to be born.. Others wouldn't, so that's why I said that 'might' be a reason for abortion.

Next case: if having the baby could cause mother's death. She shouldn't be forced to have the baby and die.

Abortion should not be used as a way of getting rid of the baby because "oh, i forgot bout the condom" or something like that, and it's something we all agree about. And also having abortion in 7 or 8th month should be totally prohibited, that's just inhuman and abominable.

But making abortion illegal won't solve the problem, I'd say it'd increase it. There are hundreds of doctors that would do it for some extra money, without asking "why". So I say we should keep it legal in justified cases.


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