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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby <VerbalTouch> » Oct 21st, '08, 23:40

McMaybe wrote:
danigantt wrote:LMAO!! :laughing: I usually don't read or post, and maybe it should stay that way. :unsure: ....but the title stood out to me, and I'm sorry, I found the entire thing really entertaining. Do you ACTUALLY believe that Obama is apart of secret societies and such... a Black man from Hawaii? Like really? Lmao.

The Republican campaign is looking for dirt on Obama. They've been looking hard. They are in his anus looking for any hair out of place, and ANY.. and i mean ANY... association with ANYONE that has even the slightest sketchy past. Do you really think they, experts in campaigning, would overlook such an association while you, a layman, would find all this compelling evidence? Come on now...

And even if Obama WAS apart of any organizations or whatever.... WHAT AMERICAN PRESIDENT HASN'T BEEN APART OF SUCH SOCIETIES? It comes with the job. If you did even more research, I'm sure you'd find that all of them have. I'd say, he's meeting the presidential standard.

To make this quick, I completely agree with BlaqReaper on everything. :y:



Yes I do, and unfortunately the only reason you praise Obama is because he is Black. Prove me wrong.

Damn nig,gers trying to be president now :shifty:
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby kathryn_carsella » Oct 25th, '08, 00:19

are you guys serious?

JOHN MCCAIN IS RUNNING AGAINST HIMSELF AND HIS OWN PARTY.

the past eight years have been one disaster after another and horrible leadership abilites. the US has basically lost all support from our allies..countries such as France that gave us the Statue of Liberty!
When Barack Obama went to Berlin and other European areas and brought thousands of people. Leaders of those countries actually met with him! that is the first time in history that a candidate who has not even been elected has been able to meet with other leaders in that type of setting. We cannot fight terrorism without the help of other countries and why the fuck should we allow the rest of the world to hate us? how is that going to help anything?
Barack Obama brought 100,000 people to St Louis this previous weekend. You are on the wrong side of history..and in years from now you will look back and regret your ignorance at this time when you realize how much better off we are going to be when Obama and Biden take office in January.

Barack definitely has great leadership to say the least. One thing I don't understand is people who want a "from the hip" type of leader; I, personally, vastly prefer a pragmatic type. One that will listen to all sides of an idea or issue and make decisions based on that. I think the calm he displays is critical..this whole cowboy image of the past eight years is going to drive our country further apart if it continues. I think he will do a wonderful job of not shunning the Republicans out of the government and I will not be the least bit surprised to see some Republicans in his Cabinet. (Many republicans have already endorsed him...VERY prominent and respected conservatives at that)
Healthcare...ARE YOU SERIOUS? the usa is the only civilized country without a healthcare plan for all citizens. we have people DYING every single day because they can NOT pay their health care fees...most of the time due to illnesses and diseases they have no control over. It has nothing to do with communism...just the well being of other people and taking care of our fellow Americans. President Bush has left so many people behind and its time we have someone in office willing to take a stand for the people who have not been given a voice for a LONG time.
tax cuts..you do realize that the current tax policies give tax cuts to the wealthy, large companies (some that ship our jobs overseas!!) and oil companies. while the middle and lower class have had hardly anything? so its considered wel fare if you give a tax cut to the working class but its just part of a democracy if its for the wealthy? that is bullshit.

wake up.
(john mccain is very respectable and honorable. its not that i'm anti mccain...i'm just EXTREMELY pro-barack obama. oh yeah, Sarah Palin makes McCain just completely out of the question. My worst nightmare is watching her celebrate a victory on Nov 4th then eight months later John McCain is rushed to the hospital...and the next morning Sarah Palin is our president.)
one other thing...when did Joe the plumber and joe six pack become the american dream? i was raised to think big, get a strong education and i could accomplish anything if i had enough determination. inteligence and acceptance of others use to be what america was about, and my parents instilled those values in me..and now we are raising our children to achieve that amount of success as some average joe ? i just dont know when that happened.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby Robbie G » Oct 25th, '08, 01:50

No offense but everything you've said doesn't change the fact that he's a socialist with links to shady organizations and people. I can understand why you think the way you do, but in my opinion your dreaming.

Not to mention the fact that we don't even know if he's a citizen or not. A long time democrat former attorney general of Pensylvana is suing Obama to present is birth certificate. Which he hasn't responded to.

Heres the audio Link:
http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=2256

He also claims to have a recording of Obama's grandmother admitting to have witnessed the birth in Kenya. How hard would it be for Obama to just present his birth certificate? I'm not even saying he 100% isn't American born, just that questions like this should be asked.

Like Maybe's already covered though nothing will be done, the people who got him this far will cover it up.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby kathryn_carsella » Oct 25th, '08, 02:15

do you know what a socialist is?
do you know what barack obama's policies include? or do you just edit it to fit the description that best suits how you feel about him?
you are wrong about one of these things, most likely both. i would strongly suggest reading over some real information regarding these issues. the facts, not opinions. then base your opinion on that. be a person and think for yourself..because from what you are saying...there is nothing valid about why he isn't fit to run our country...except bullshit attacks and claims from the conservatives because they have nothing left..the only chance they have at winning is to scare people to death like they always do. but heres the thing they need to realize : hope beats hate. always.
now some people i believe have valid reasons for supporting john mccain..but i have not seen one of those listed at all in this topic.
i have lived in chicago nearly my entire life and i am extremely well informed on barack obama. as i am with john mccain...i was a huge supporter of his in the 2000 election when i was only eighteen, i actually supported him over al gore. but he is far from the john mccain i supported back then. i do not want a president that will compromise his values and beliefs just for the sake of a title. its been said a million times, candidate john mccain is running against senator john mccain. barack obama is running because he has a vision for our country and understands the true meaning of america. its a shame because the basis of which the conservative party started from was much more respectable than what it has turned into. we've had many great leaders from the republican party.
but now you're anti america if you don't vote for mccain/palin? excuse me? where is the logic in that?
its interesting you couldn't debate one thing from my previous post, so you had to resort to nonsense which i won't even waste time speaking of.
and those topics i brought up are very valid and important in deciding the next president.
i promise you..John McCain and Sarah Palin are not your answer. I promise.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby BrianBdamc » Oct 25th, '08, 04:59

Man thats not true, but this is, Mccains tax cuts are different! This is what Mccain is going to do as president, *ACTUALLY PROVEN*, he is going to give tax cuts to the big business, Wal-Mart for example to simplify it, and give them tax cuts. He has good morals, the republicans think that they will use this extra money to get bigger, giving Americans more jobs, but they are taking this money and putting it in the bank! Obama is for giving tax cuts to US, the american people. Obama has great health insurance plans and health care, which u took way out of context!

I actually respect you for something, you are one of the only people i know that talk about obama's ideas and actions, instead of "hes black! you can't vote for him!" Its good to not hear racism, living in Tennessee now -_- I hear a lot of it, redneck hicks.

Plus think of this, Micheal Moore made this point :smoking:
No offense that hes old or anything you know, but Mccain is pushing 72, and the normal life expectancy in the united states for men is 75. So while your voting for Mccain, think about in 2 years or so if he gets sick and dies, than we have President Palin..... think about that for a second.... President Palin. She has less experience than anyone I've seen run as vice, let alone be the president of the united states! :o
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby BrianBdamc » Oct 25th, '08, 05:02

McMaybe wrote:
danigantt wrote:LMAO!! :laughing: I usually don't read or post, and maybe it should stay that way. :unsure: ....but the title stood out to me, and I'm sorry, I found the entire thing really entertaining. Do you ACTUALLY believe that Obama is apart of secret societies and such... a Black man from Hawaii? Like really? Lmao.

The Republican campaign is looking for dirt on Obama. They've been looking hard. They are in his anus looking for any hair out of place, and ANY.. and i mean ANY... association with ANYONE that has even the slightest sketchy past. Do you really think they, experts in campaigning, would overlook such an association while you, a layman, would find all this compelling evidence? Come on now...

And even if Obama WAS apart of any organizations or whatever.... WHAT AMERICAN PRESIDENT HASN'T BEEN APART OF SUCH SOCIETIES? It comes with the job. If you did even more research, I'm sure you'd find that all of them have. I'd say, he's meeting the presidential standard.

To make this quick, I completely agree with BlaqReaper on everything. :y:



Yes I do, and unfortunately the only reason you praise Obama is because he is Black. Prove me wrong.


and, unfortunately, the only reason you are against Obama, is because he is black.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby BlaqReaper » Oct 25th, '08, 07:27

Did any of you guys read my post? Obama can't be in Skull and Bones, he's never been to Yale. As for him being in CHF, there isn't proof (at least that I can find on the internet), but McCain is in it. What other shady organizations are you guys talking about that Obama is in (please don't name terrorist groups, because that's retarded)?

As for socialist medical health plan, it's simply the republicans exaggerating Obama's plan to allow poorer people access to health care....jeez is that so bad? It's America, people with a crapload of money will end up well anyways.

Also, as for gun rights, I don't know Obama's stance, but I doubt even if he was completely against it, he can do anything about it. It takes a lot of manpower to change the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights, one person's opinion (even if he's President) isn't going to do it.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby Robbie G » Oct 25th, '08, 14:44

BlaqReaper wrote: What other shady organizations are you guys talking about that Obama is in?


There is reason to believe that Obama has had ties with al Queda. :o

Jk.

We'll see Blaqreaper, I sure hope your right. I'm not going to respond to the other two people because they just seemed to pull un-organized biased out their ass. i totally agree that McCain is not the answer, but i am just as sure that Obaam will be worse.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby hotnikelz » Oct 27th, '08, 10:11

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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby SajN » Oct 27th, '08, 11:24

^you can see that the Osama head is taken from somewhere else lolz!
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby Emadyville » Oct 27th, '08, 16:59

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I have a feeling this might be doctored, cause I could never imagine Osama not being in a cave :o
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby Call Me Pik » Oct 27th, '08, 19:18

obamas the caca in my book he got my vote lol :y:
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby Arabian Shady » Oct 31st, '08, 19:31

plus osama's from saudi, he shud be hairy as fuk, or does he wax :o :o :o
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby gladimnotsoluble » Nov 2nd, '08, 00:34

no matter who you're voting for, pictures will always be funny
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby Golden » Nov 2nd, '08, 02:07

Why is that amricans are so afraid of socialism?
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