TruEmFan wrote:Beat - Till I Collapse 'cause it matches perfectly with the subject matter. It makes you feel like you
can do anything until you, ya know... you collapse.
Rhymes - Renegade 'cause they're so complex with the multis. And one of the small little flaws in Till I Collapse is the end of the first verse, when he has to resort to "You bizzles forgot Slizzle does not give a fuck." I always hated that line.
Lyrics - Till I Collapse 'cause they're more relevant than the stuff he says in Renegade. The content in Renegade was only appropriate at the time when he was being attacked for his lyrics and all that, while Till I Collapse, anyon can listen to that anyday and still get the full effect of it.
Flow - Renegade, but only by a little bit. Em just lived in that beat, and granted, he made it, but still. I think it was more difficult to flow on Renegade than Till I Collapse anyway, which sort of just has a simple pounding beat to it.
Oh, look at that, they're even. Lol.
wow look at you girl ,, you hve really impressed me

, everything you have explained just match with my point of view toward these 2 songs .. i guess i hve nothin to add more . but to ask you which one do u prefer ??? , cuz u kinda explain both of em , without mentionning which best for you ..
and i do totally agree with you ( The content in Renegade was only appropriate at the time when he was being attacked for his lyrics and all that, while Till I Collapse, anyon can listen to that anyday and still get the full effect of it.)

Throwback24 wrote:
Eminem can't make a song lyrically as good as Renegade or Till I Collapse ever again.
BTW, Till I Collapse > Renegade
well i dont agree wit u Throwback24 ,, if he still has potential , i guess he will do better .. i know it's hard cuz he must do a song which is better than renegade and till i collapse . But he is the one who did renegade and till i collapse, so he is the only one who can do a better songs in compare with them . but who knows