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Why do people like/hate Kanye?

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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby D@vid » Dec 27th, '08, 10:25

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D@vid wrote:hip hop has been commercial from the start, kinda. its who u r, how u represent it. thats how he represents it. ur still mad, in a way, cuz he did it in a gay way to u and made money from it. hip hop is how u express it. do u like break dancing? do u know what its about? do u like tagging? do u know what its about? do u know all the different ways ppl wear clothes? do u like the flat bill caps with the 50/50 tag or whatever? its all hip hop. how u represent it, is on u. ur still hating him , in the end, cuz he did smth gay and made money. don't be a hater. ur focusing on one or two things. look at the whole, not just a few examples of somebody cuz u wanna follow the masses


Were you specifically addressing me as the "you"? :'( :unsure:

I don't even hate Lil Wayne like that. Like I said, it's a cop-out when people put so much hate and blame on the man.

I see both sides of the argument, tbh.


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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby theJFKshow » Dec 27th, '08, 10:42

I do hate Lil Wayne like that.
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby shady_soldier_ » Dec 27th, '08, 13:34

I don't hate Lil Wayne for making money or music. I don't even know what he's like outside of the booth, and frankly I don't care. He's not an artist that hits my radar. In my opinion, his lyrics are pretty weak. I can't even tell what the hell he's saying 80% of the time. But whatever, if he can entertain people with his grumbling voice, that's great for him. I'm not hating the player. I do, however, hate the fans that think he's the greatest. I think whoever finds him to be on Em's level is an idiot. No offense to anyone here.

My issue with Kanye is just the opposite, I suppose. It's not his music that bugs me, it's what he's like outside the booth that makes me think he deserves to die.
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby Tornado » Dec 28th, '08, 15:26

as a rapper: loved the frist 3 albums, hate the last one
as a person: steadily got more faggoty

james. R sums it up
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby Kez » Dec 28th, '08, 20:55

Wait how did this turn into talking about Lil Wayne?
Even with his recent faggot shit i still take Kanye > Lil Wayne a million times over.

Well i personally don't care what anyone says, Lil Wayne deserves all the hate he gets. His success is merely a testament to how stupid today's youth is (cause we all know that's who buys his shit). Saying he doesn't deserve hate because he's been doing it since he was a teen is as bad an excuse as saying Soulja Boy deserves respect because he did it when he was so young. I don't care that he's making money; but it's possible to make money without degrading your artistic integrity. Look at Eminem. He made shitloads of money and half his singles are full of decent lyrics, even if they are delivered in a pop way (no, i'm not talking about Just Lose It and Ass Like That, before you say; i know they were abominations). What does Lil Wayne use as his singles? Lollipop. A Milli. Got Money. Now what are all those songs about? Girls, money and how great he is. Lil Wayne's music, and it's themes, represents exactly what people view as hip hop; mindless bragging. And since he has so much exposure due to his idiotic mainstream audience, he gets spread further, making people get this impression of hip hop and believe in it even more. That's the main thing about him that pisses me off so much, more than anything else; more than his annoying voice, more than his simple lyrics, and more than his gay bird calls he shouts at the start of his songs.

Fuck Lil Wayne, i don't care what you say.
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby Mc Cubz » Dec 29th, '08, 13:28

I like kanye because his tracks do have some meaning and sound quite unique. Also since he produces aswell hes even more admirable.

I hate kanye because he sounds posh - in other words there's no character or charisma in his voice. Also he is too confident - he's not as good as he thinks/act like he is - getting up and fucking over someone elses award at the mtv awards was too much - even if he was correct in what he was saying.

Also - this is a important point that probably hasn't been thought of - kanye is well-spoken and clever - record companies want someone like him to represent hiphop at music events showcasing all genres such as live earth etc - this is because if he is asked a question he can give a politically correct and suitable answer - record labels don't want people that may say something wrong/controversial i.e. 'fuck up' on live tv or anything. I believe that this is a big reason kanye is given so many international shows etc. :sweating:

Overall I think hes a muppet! :o
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby James R. » Dec 30th, '08, 04:19

Mc Cubz wrote:kanye is well-spoken and clever...if he is asked a question he can give a politically correct and suitable answer - record labels don't want people that may say something wrong/controversial i.e. 'fuck up' on live tv or anything.


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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby Tash8 » Dec 30th, '08, 05:34

Mc Cubz wrote:Also - this is a important point that probably hasn't been thought of - kanye is well-spoken and clever - record companies want someone like him to represent hiphop at music events showcasing all genres such as live earth etc - this is because if he is asked a question he can give a politically correct and suitable answer - record labels don't want people that may say something wrong/controversial i.e. 'fuck up' on live tv or anything. I believe that this is a big reason kanye is given so many international shows etc. :sweating:


Yes man, your completely right and I agree one hundred and ten percent. It's not like Kanye ever went on stage after losing an award and bitched, nor did he ever call himself the "voice of this decade of this generation" and never did he call himself bigger than Elvis Presley.
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby shady_soldier_ » Dec 30th, '08, 19:09

TruEmFan wrote:Do you not remember "George Bush doesn't care about Black people?" :confusion:


The look on Mike Myers' face when he said that was priceless! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI

...Starts babbling a lot.
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby James R. » Dec 31st, '08, 01:09

HAHAHAHAHAHA he wanted to say "W.igga shut the fuck up!"
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby James R. » Dec 31st, '08, 01:29

Mrs. ƒresh wrote:
slimthps wrote:I do hate Lil Wayne like that.

^werd.. i hate him almost as much as a hate his fans.



i <3 kanye because his not scared to do what he dooooo :)

Even if what he do is fucking retarded and makes me gauge my ear drums
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby James R. » Dec 31st, '08, 01:33

He was my shit til he fucked with singing and autotune. I mean as long as he wasn't talking about anything. When he speaks about topics I tend to die a little inside.
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby James R. » Dec 31st, '08, 01:43

Mrs. ƒresh wrote:
James R. wrote:He was my shit til he fucked with singing and autotune. I mean as long as he wasn't talking about anything. When he speaks about topics I tend to die a little inside.

*shrugs at least his attempting to switch it up....
not to defend his recent album.. (only liked 4tracks on it)
at least his not doing the same shit.. over and over.. tends to get old and boring u dig?

I feel you. I just wish he would have experimented with something for a reason other than it being trendy. I mean had he tried that 3 yrs ago then that woulda been cool cuz no one was doing it. Now it's just the in thing and it's lame.
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby James R. » Dec 31st, '08, 01:47

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't watching me!
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Re: Why do people like/hate Kanye?

Postby Kez » Dec 31st, '08, 03:20

James R. wrote:He was my shit til he fucked with singing and autotune. I mean as long as he wasn't talking about anything. When he speaks about topics I tend to die a little inside.


I second this.

Angie wrote:at least his not doing the same shit.. over and over.. tends to get old and boring u dig?


Well i see what you're saying, but to be honest i would have been infinitely more satisfied with another rap album from Kanye over this auto-tune attempted singing bullshit.
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