Obama's Stimulus Package

[Robbie G]

I see this as nothing more than a way for Obama and Pelosi to pass all the random shit that they want. A ton of money is being given to welfare, how will that create jobs? After promising no earmarks he passes 800 billion worth of them.

They're using the bad economy to scare people into spending a ton of money for their projects. Also how much money are we willing to spend? Didn't we just pass a 800 billion dollar stimulus package? I'm not an economist but that can't be good for us down the road.


I don't know...but that's strike two.

[<Stiiccy>]

I don't know...but that's strike two.

how many strikes are we gonna have in 4 years?

[gladimnotsoluble]

House republicans plus the eleven democrats won today.


800billion dollars of pork is ridiculous.

335 million to stds? 650 to tv coupons?

4 BILLION dollars to Acorn?



How can Obama promise bipartisanship, and not have 1 republican sign on. This will not go well, and it will be all on Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. Which is a shame, I want Obama too succeed.

Unfortunately, America has to suffer in order to get rid of all these socialist rat bastards in Washington

[James R.]

What the fuck was strike one?

[James R.]

i'm betting "killing 18 people"

Which would be retarded as fuck.

[Robbie G]

What the fuck was strike one?

Sticcy gave him a strike for Guantanomo.

[Requiem]

i think if it WORKS it's fine. the only way to fix the economy is for the govt. to spend money and create jobs. don't forget, obama's going to build alternate fuel factories, and shit. so he's starting new industries. i think he's going to be a great president.
America fucking voted for him, so we have no one to blame but ourselves! if it dont' work

[Robbie G]

the only way to fix the economy is for the govt. to spend money

That could be debated.

[James R.]

Sticcy gave him a strike for Guantanomo.

Fuck strike one

But ok regardless of what bull shit ass "strike" he was given, like it even matters how many "strikes" he racks up, I'll actually state my opinion on this.

I'm reading about it and I'm not seeing exactly what is getting this almost $1 trillion. I know social plans are going to get a piece of it, but the unemployment rate is sky rocketing and that's fact. If you don't want entire towns to get laid off with nothing to fall back on and send our economy even DEEPER into the shit hole then something is going to have to break that fall.

No one is "scaring" people with the economic crisis. The economic crisis is what's "scaring" people. It has nothing to do with being socialist. That's just stupid. Do I agree with using all this money to curve this? Not really, but I don't really prefer the republican approach of acting like it's something that happens and it'll fix itself while everything goes to hell *reference great depression*

Our economy is BASED on money moving through people's hands, in and out of banks (the more that's in the better the less the worse), how much shit people are buying, and how many people are working to keep that all going.

Now I'm not an economist but I know there are only a few options as to what to do. To name a few: Create social programs that keep people from falling flat, create more jobs, or go to war. The war thing isn't working. We already have social programs, and a lot of the most broken have been either fixed or eliminated (i.e. putting a limit on welfare, although disability has become the newest broken system). And the whole creating more jobs thing kinda took a turn for the worse when Bush thought it'd be a great idea to outsource every company and its mother. Not that it was completely his fault, but he sent it over the edge.

So what is there to do? Pumping money into the economy is obviously an option and it's the option that will have the most immediate effect. If you want to wait another 6-10 years for the economy to fix itself then be my guest and complain about how everyone you know is getting laid off like hell. It's all about instant gratification at this point seeing as how Bush (the guy McCain was all gung ho about) let his administration do w/e the hell they wanted. Not because he's a bad guy, but because he didn't understand anything that was going on. So there's a corrupt system in place and he decided to give them 800 billion dollars to do the SAME exact shit they'd been doing.

So this is a different approach. No one KNOWS what's going to happen, so we just have to wait and see. Maybe this will be enough (with a revamping of the administrations and policies in place) to halt this and send us back in a more positive direction.

[<Stiiccy>]

the only way to fix the economy is for the govt. to spend money

That could be debated.

debated? that can be proven wrong easily

[Requiem]

Yep^ to James R.

[Robbie G]

Your right james, we do just have to wait and See.

I just have a bad feeling about this.

[<Stiiccy>]

but what happens if the majority of the people save the stimulus instead of spending it...(not saying that will happen) just askin

[Robbie G]

I think I heard somewhere that with all the money being spent in this bill they could give every citezen like 20k. Wouldn't that stimulate the economy lol?

i dont know...

[<Stiiccy>]

I think I heard somewhere that with all the money being spent in this bill they could give every citezen like 20k. Wouldn't that stimulate the economy lol?

i dont know...

this seems risky man