DOnt u think that we all lying to our selves?

[Mr. Cookie]

I like D-12 with or without Eminem...doesn't matter for me...really like their last mixtape..

[gutawafang]

I don't lie to myself.

I haven't checked D12's new shit since Proof died, and judging from their releases such as "Fugh U" i'm glad i haven't.

I only ever really liked Eminem and at a push, Proof from D12. The others on their solo shit (like Kuniva on "Pawns In The Game") are great, but as a crew Kon Artis, Kuniva and Swifty sound too similiar to me to be that interesting.

Plus i don't know if it's intended, but every verse Eminem has ever put on a D12 song he seems to stand out from the rest of them, oftentimes with the beat actually being extended or edited just on his verse and with him normally being either first or last.

Well man. I kinda realized I love Proof's verses too. Thanks for reminding me!

[Tornado]

Ok, Em got me into D12,, but to be truthful only Kon Artis & Bizarre suck really, thought individullay they have had some good tracks and contribute on some songs. Swifty's EP he released are good, nothing mind blowing, but better than most of the mainstream today, same with Kuniva aswell. Both have D12 tracks which they kill (Swift: Pimp Like Me, Instigator, Leave Dat Boy Alone,) Kuniva (D12- World, Keep Talkin, Nasty Mind, That's How). Proof is probably the most unique out of D12 and as a whole,if you listen to the majority of D12 songs, Em doesn't overshadow them as much as people are saying

[Wallace]

I first knew D12 by "Purple Hills", but searchin for Eminem's songs. As the impression was good, I used to check every song wth D12 or his members, but Em music was always easier to find. And used to sound better... so I listen more do D12 songs with Eminem, cuz he's one of the best of the group, but not ONLY him matters. The rest of the crew matters to me too. Plus I don't like most fo Bizarre's solo shit, and I think Kon artis is better on beats. Swifty and Kuniva are good, not as good as Eminem, but good too.

[Robbie G]

idk..I like them. I'd buy a D12 even if it didn't have eminem.

[Brandon S]

D12 is obviously gonna be better with em on a track than without em. But if the'yre new lp doesnt feature em on it, i'd still buy it probably. Ya'll should check out their Return Of The Dozen mixtape its dope

[shadylujie@gmail.com]

I agree I like D12 only with Eminem's verses in it!

Agreed

[benrumbles]

idk..I like them. I'd buy a D12 even if it didn't have eminem.

Yeah I cannot help myself! First song I ever heard of D12 was Shit On You and while Em totally outshined the rest of D12 on that track I was still intrigued by the other members! Then I started searching Kazaar for they shit and found The Slim Shady EP & other Misc. songs featuring members of D12 and starting liking they shit more & more!...and then Devil's Night came out and I was like WTF these dudes CRAZY, not just Em but all of them - I thought Fuck these dudes can actually rap! From that release on I have made it my mission to get every piece of D12 related material I can get my hands on(THERE IS A FUCKLOAD it is a BIG task!)! I LOVE D-TWIZZY FOR LIFE! Peace.

[Xray]

^^Respect D-12 boy.

[Evil-Genius]

No no lets not kid ourselves here...We all know we`re not gonna buy a New d12 Album that only have ( kon artist,kuniva,swifty,bizarre ) It`ll totally be the end of D12 if that happens
Without eminem D12 would be Unknown Even with proof in d12 , Cause Em is the one who brought them to the world..
I love D12 with all my heart but the sad truth is D12 without eminem is nothing special at all Even g-unit are better

[Nick419]

No no lets not kid ourselves here...We all know we`re not gonna buy a New d12 Album that only have ( kon artist,kuniva,swifty,bizarre ) It`ll totally be the end of D12 if that happens
Without eminem D12 would be Unknown Even with proof in d12 , Cause Em is the one who brought them to the world..
I love D12 with all my heart but the sad truth is D12 without eminem is nothing special at all Even g-unit are better

o yeah? watch me buy that shit the first day it drops with or w/o em

[Boston]

I disagree. Swift, Proof, Kon Artist > Eminem, Bizzare, Kuniva on every song from the Devils Night album, and I'm being serious.

lol da fuck outta here man, eminem had some of his best verses in general on that CD

[benrumbles]

No no lets not kid ourselves here...We all know we`re not gonna buy a New d12 Album that only have ( kon artist,kuniva,swifty,bizarre ) It`ll totally be the end of D12 if that happens
Without eminem D12 would be Unknown Even with proof in d12 , Cause Em is the one who brought them to the world..
I love D12 with all my heart but the sad truth is D12 without eminem is nothing special at all Even g-unit are better

o yeah? watch me buy that shit the first day it drops with or w/o em

You cant say "we all know" - you aint speaking for everyone Evil G3n1us - it is all opinions and yours is that of above - but totally true bout the Em brought D12 to the world thing - but if Em had of been a solo artist the whole time do you think he would have came out on top? NO - D12 brought that gangsta/thug/street appeal that alot of people would have liked and also had his back on ALOT of his beefs(especially Proof)! also w/out D12 he would be less rich cuz both Devil's Night and D12 World went platinum! So dont say "we all" think this or "we all" think that! It is all opinions/mixed with fact but you can never speak for everyone dude!

[Le Tunisien]

and yeah we all now found out that proofs verses were greats after he died,after his death i personnaly went back to listen all his verses and shit,i Found out proof is so Great and so funny and he is so special,im so sad that he died, i really wished he was still there

[matz]

i liked return of the dozen......nuff said