Is the "Encore excuse" valid?

[Jens14]

I don't know, maybe he rushed it a bit and didn't make too many songs. Also maybe he had joke songs because he didn't have much else. I mean Bully, We as americans and Love you more got leaked, those are songs that have good concepts and sound good. Maybe he gave up a little then, he did say in the book he felt whipped having to go back to the studio.

[Evil-Genius]

Well enocre was a good album in my opinion , And about the bonus tracks in Encore originally were supposed to be in the album and leaked to the internet then they had to rush some quick songs I dont know about this but it seems reasonable to me cause the bonus tracks in encore were good,
I do agree with you chris that Em has some have some good trakcs since encore that he didnt release and might be in relapse 2 ,
Man his album should be good cause he had some much time to make the perfect album
Lets wait and see

[Jens14]

Well enocre was a good album in my opinion , And about the bonus tracks in Encore originally were supposed to be in the album and leaked to the internet then they had to rush some quick songs I dont know about this but it seems reasonable to me cause the bonus tracks in encore were good,
I do agree with you chris that Em has some have some good trakcs since encore that he didnt release and might be in relapse 2 ,
Man his album should be good cause he had some much time to make the perfect album
Lets wait and see

I don't think he'll put songs in Relapse or Relapse 2 made in 2004 lmao. Remember 50 Cent said he'd even threw songs away he made in 2007, he wants to come with fresh material.

[AJS2050]

i believe there is hundreds of em tunes made over the years that are amazing and that have never leaked, and as for encore i believe he had better tracks but for some reason choose big weenie over them but anywho my focus is on relapse now

[°[~CHR!$~]°]

as i heard...all the new tracks which have been on Straight To The Lab should have been on Encore..but since the tracks on Straight to the Lab have leaked...[Monkey See Monkey Do,Can I Bitch,Bully,Love You More,Real 911]...these tracks were sick actually...its not just about Ricky Ticky Toc and We As Americans...its almost 25% off an album...thatz why he had to hurry Encore...
but i agree its not excuse....i doubt that Em was put under pressure to release it...
oh well just thought i would point out that whole Straight To The Lab issue...dont know if its true but i heard somthin like that...
include songs like Monkey See Monkey Do,Bully,Can i bitch,Love you More and throw out Ass Like that,Big Weenie,Puke,Rainman...there you have a solid album

[Shadizz]

Em' has recorded alot of tracks those months, so I really don't think he'll put some tracks from 2004 ...

[Solace]

No its not valid, i agree that he could have probably used better songs but he didnt for some reason. Ive read that people think that he wanted to put out crappy music to get people off his nuts. Maybe thats true. About the good songs that he didnt use, who knows maybe Big Weenie was one of the best lol. I doubt he'll be using them in Relapse 2 since he probably feels that using fresher material is the smarter decision.

[shadygeneral]

^I wasnt saying he might use them in Relapse 2 i was trying to prove a point about how many tracks are made to go on a album etc. But if he wanted people to back off he just shouldnt put a album out period.

as i heard...all the new tracks which have been on Straight To The Lab should have been on Encore..but since the tracks on Straight to the Lab have leaked...[Monkey See Monkey Do,Can I Bitch,Bully,Love You More,Real 911]...these tracks were sick actually...its not just about Ricky Ticky Toc and We As Americans...its almost 25% off an album...thatz why he had to hurry Encore...
but i agree its not excuse....i doubt that Em was put under pressure to release it...
oh well just thought i would point out that whole Straight To The Lab issue...dont know if its true but i heard somthin like that...
include songs like Monkey See Monkey Do,Bully,Can i bitch,Love you More and throw out Ass Like that,Big Weenie,Puke,Rainman...there you have a solid album

Yeah i heard that to but im still thinking that are the tracks on Encore REALLY second to them? Ya know? Cos theres a HUGE diffrence in quality between them.

The leaked songs are lower quality because they weren't finished. Not mastered yet i think

[Tash8]

Okay so ive been hearing this comeback for years now and i really dont see how its a valid excuse as to why Encore was a disapointment. People say "We as Americans/Love you more etc was leaked so he had to rush to make new tracks". But for anyone who is aware to how albums are made should know theres GOT to be more to it than this. A typical Album ranges from 16-20 tracks normally,sometimes a little less. We hear in interviews regually and its common knowledge that a cd isnt made when 20 tracks are done. Artists spend months making track after track and the best are normally selected for the album. Normally anywhere between 60 to 300 tracks can be made for 1 album, The amount of unheard tracks there are from many artists is unreal. Infact its the reason there will be a Relapse 2 i belive? So are we REALLY supposed to belive that the tracks that made Encore to replace said tracks had to be made and used? There had to of been better stuff Em hadnt released right?

not true, def not true, rappers like Cashis need to make a 100 tracks to select a decent 15 to put on an album.. but an artist like eminem he can make 20 songs and put 15 on an album...

[,-,'-{Bar}-',-,]

Okay so ive been hearing this comeback for years now and i really dont see how its a valid excuse as to why Encore was a disapointment. People say "We as Americans/Love you more etc was leaked so he had to rush to make new tracks". But for anyone who is aware to how albums are made should know theres GOT to be more to it than this. A typical Album ranges from 16-20 tracks normally,sometimes a little less. We hear in interviews regually and its common knowledge that a cd isnt made when 20 tracks are done. Artists spend months making track after track and the best are normally selected for the album. Normally anywhere between 60 to 300 tracks can be made for 1 album, The amount of unheard tracks there are from many artists is unreal. Infact its the reason there will be a Relapse 2 i belive? So are we REALLY supposed to belive that the tracks that made Encore to replace said tracks had to be made and used? There had to of been better stuff Em hadnt released right?

not true, def not true, rappers like Cashis need to make a 100 tracks to select a decent 15 to put on an album.. but an artist like eminem he can make 20 songs and put 15 on an album...

by an artist like eminem you mean a guy with real talent right ?

look at jay-z he walks in a studio does 10 tracks then leaves, maybe 1 of them will make the album hes working on, he says that himself, same for nas he makes loads of tracks and puts the good ones on albums.

if jay and nas still do the 50+ songs then best on the album im pretty sure em is no different.

the only genre that now a days makes 20 tracks then put 15 on the album is indie, rock ect. coz they need to hire studio time and have there own band in to play the tracks and shit, with hip hop a A&R wants 50+ tracks made before they start selecting the best for the album.

[Cyndi]

Encore in my opinion was a great album as I stated a billion times. LOL Like others have said, alot of songs were leaked from Encore & he had to make new songs. From what I heard, Encore was a burden, he was at a phase where he didn't wanna do it anymore. Shaun verified that in Detroit in magazines & whatever. That was his right hand man & he knew what was goin' on. Don't say "just do an album", when he has an obligation to his higher authorities. It is still his job wheter he likes it or not. I have no problem with the crazy tracks of the album. They made me laugh. From what I hear, he's explainin' & tryin' to apologize for the song that got leaked by Bezino. After that, he was tryna get a bit personal, but still tryin' 2 not say the same thing. Then he did the Triumph thing, that was pokin' fun of the situation he got booed 4. I mean it's still the same antics 2 me. The rest of the album is just silly crazy shit that I expect from him.

[Kez]

Has Eminem ever personally blamed the Love You More/We As Americans/Bully etc leak for the tracks on Encore?

I always got the impression, and i'm sure i read this somewhere, that he was just going for a different approach in concept on some songs, i.e. the more light-hearted shit.

Most of the people who make up these excuses tend to be his Stans.

I have accepted that he was trying something new on Encore and it just wasn't to my taste, but that doesn't mean it was a terrible album like some say.

[bom-bom]

Encore imo isnt em's best album, but its not that bad either, i mean every artist have best albums and worst albums, u cant expect them to make the music u want to hear everytime they release something new
there are several songs that i enjoy listening like mosh, toy soldiers, mockingbird..etc
of course when it comes to listen an album i prefer listening tes or mmlp because i liek most of the songs there and i enjoy listening the full album
i dont know

[Sofi]

encore its not bad its just.. not his best album
mosh, never enough, yellow brick road like toy soldiers, mockingbird.. were really good songs

[Acid_M]

I would like to think that Encore was a decent album, definitely not Em's best, but really not that bad.

Looking at the album from a completely objective view however - its plainly obvious that Encore was just garbage. Yes there were a handful of good songs (Like Toy Soldiers is a classic even) but really... Just Lose It pales in comparison to his previous singles, his flow on Mosh is completely off and songs like Puke, Ass Like That, Big Weenie, My 1st single, 1 shot, 2 shot - just pure trash imo. I've always considered the 3 albums prior to this were all near perfect and while its true that everyone's entitled to fuckups once in a while, i still dont think there's an excuse for an album like Encore.