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Postby rahavan » Mar 22nd, '09, 18:39

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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby Brandon S » Mar 22nd, '09, 19:01

Yeah, read it last night I was about to post it but fell asleep lol.....

Its a pretty good article tho
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby Jens14 » Mar 22nd, '09, 19:09

Don't really know what to think about the article but I liked how Jon2k9 set stuff straight :y:
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby matz » Mar 22nd, '09, 19:21

Most of what you say is wrong and bloated.

Eminem is not like other stars. He's not releasing another album to produce 'more hits' or get his face in the paper again. He's doing it because he loves hip-hop and he just wants to contribute more to the genre mainly given that it's in such a state at the moment.

Secondly, Eminem has not been 'out of the studio' for five years lmao. After 2004's Encore he largely focused on production. He took a break from solo work but was still in the studio basically every single day.

2005 was still a year for Encore and then came Curtain Call. 2006 Came The Re-Up to introduce several new Shady / Aftermath artists. Then Proof died so he took a year off to recover from that tragedy.

Since recovery he's been banging out new tracks and made over 300 since he's been gone, some, as he says, he will keep purely for his own amusement.

Eminem is an integral artists, he doesn't give a shit about how many albums he sells for bragging rights or how many more millions he makes. He just wants to make great hip-hop. Which is what, no doubt, he will do.

And his loyal fans memories are still in tact. I've been listening to Em for a decade and his music and persona is still as exciting as ever. And all his fans are behind him, dying for new material.

That's why Eminem's interest has never faded because he's smart. He knows how to keep the interest there. He puts out material in dribs and drabs and never floods or oversaturates the market. At about 2002 you could argue he was as big as Elvis in terms of pure fame and notority yet you still barely saw him on feature tracks.

Fame comes as an upshot of what he does. At the heart, he is a true MC and genuine hip-hop head. Wheras Lil Wayne knows nothing and has done the stupidest thing ever by selling himself thin and basically getting on every track in creation. Which leads to one thing and one thing only, people getting sick of you. And now he's coming out with an abysmal rock album with auto-tune... What next.

Kanye West on the other hand is a genuinely interesting MC. Lyrically he's not a scratch on Eminem but what's fun about Kanye is the constant improvement and experimentation. He is, in that respect, very much like Eminem in that he sounds different (or at least tries to) on every album. Constantly pushing himself lyrically and production wise.

As for your comments on Encore. Blame Dr.Dre for the lazily produced tracks on that album. All of Eminem's produced tracks inspired him to write some genuinely interesting material 'Evil Deeds', 'Yellow Brick Road', 'Like Toy Soldiers'. He also pushed new boundries with 'Mosh'. An actualy decent political track.

If it wasn't for leaked material then Encore would of been another straight classic. Originally intended for the album were 'Bully', 'Love You More', 'Ricky Ticky Toc' and 'We As Americans'. Which are all outstanding songs. But they leaked early so Em quickly made some filler tracks which were 'Rain Man', 'Big Weenie' and 'Ass Like That'. Which is explains the apparent lack of interest and dull creativity.

As for Crack A Bottle, if I were you I wouldn't judge Em's new material even remotely on that. It's not from Relapse, it was a leaked track that is simply a promo track to get the 3 back out there and they simply finished it up to cover the leak. You're right about one thing though, 50 Cent is as crap as ever. That man is a pure bore, one of the most unexplainable stars on this planet. What a pile of poo.

Em's new single is coming April 7th with an accompanying video. I've no doubt it's gonna be inspiring stuff.


yep thats what john2k9 said and i pretty much agree with it tbh
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby Jens14 » Mar 22nd, '09, 19:22

Chet Starr wrote:best article on eminem I've read in a while :b: thanks


This one is good too (way better actually):

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/eminem-the-fall-and-rise-of-a-superstar-1544787.html
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 22nd, '09, 19:25

if he only shifts, say, 400,000 units in that first seven days – does this mean Game Over?


does anyone actually think this is possible?
i think there's no way he sells less than 800k first week....but 400k would really suck though
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby Jens14 » Mar 22nd, '09, 19:40

slimsoxshady wrote:
if he only shifts, say, 400,000 units in that first seven days – does this mean Game Over?


does anyone actually think this is possible?
i think there's no way he sells less than 800k first week....but 400k would really suck though


I don't know, time's changed, nowadays 400k first week is very good. U2 brought their first album out in 5 years and it got like 500k sales. I think Eminem will do 700k+ though if the first single is good.
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 22nd, '09, 19:45

Jens14 wrote:
slimsoxshady wrote:
if he only shifts, say, 400,000 units in that first seven days – does this mean Game Over?


does anyone actually think this is possible?
i think there's no way he sells less than 800k first week....but 400k would really suck though


I don't know, time's changed, nowadays 400k first week is very good. U2 brought their first album out in 5 years and it got like 500k sales. I think Eminem will do 700k+ though if the first single is good.


do you think they are now counting iTunes sales as part of the the "units moved"?
i would because thats become a large part of the sales...cuz a lot of people have ipods, even in their cars, so there's no reason for them to go out and buy a CD anymore
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby heva » Mar 22nd, '09, 20:29

I agree with this guy john2k9 about eminem fans, I mean eminem has really big fan base and loyal fans so I think he will sell good
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby Eckoo » Mar 22nd, '09, 20:55

omfg the title is in Does the world still need Superman style :D niceeee
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby Evil-Genius » Mar 22nd, '09, 21:03

Good article , Em need to save the rap game..4/7/2009 is the day hiphop will be saved By the greatest MC ever :flower:
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby E&M » Mar 22nd, '09, 21:47

slimsoxshady wrote:
if he only shifts, say, 400,000 units in that first seven days – does this mean Game Over?


does anyone actually think this is possible?
i think there's no way he sells less than 800k first week....but 400k would really suck though


He will sell 400k records in 2 hours not 7 days. This article is fairly biased and the first comment on that site explains it all more briefly.
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 22nd, '09, 22:37

E&M wrote:
slimsoxshady wrote:
if he only shifts, say, 400,000 units in that first seven days – does this mean Game Over?


does anyone actually think this is possible?
i think there's no way he sells less than 800k first week....but 400k would really suck though


He will sell 400k records in 2 hours not 7 days. This article is fairly biased and the first comment on that site explains it all more briefly.


i think he's already sold 400k from the pre-orders lol
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby Jay-19 » Mar 22nd, '09, 23:59

John2k9 pretty much said in his comment what I felt about this interview.
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Re: New Article On Em's Return

Postby Brandon S » Mar 23rd, '09, 02:43

Evil G3n1us wrote:Good article , Em need to save the rap game..4/7/2009 is the day hiphop will be saved By the greatest MC ever :flower:



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