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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Tornado » Dec 10th, '09, 17:48

Adam Quinn wrote:The reason of Hip Hop is to be noticed by mainstream



Rap music wasn't made to make people rich in the first place, the hip-hop culture is built around respect and rap wasn't considered a mainstream genre untill the 90's

Relapse.LP wrote:You gotta do what the people want. To be perfectly honest, [i]artists who do what they want to do are plainly selfish and lying.


Adam Quinn wrote:. At the same time, I want to be 'mainstream' if that means everyone enjoys and likes my music.


Not everyone will enjoy your music and to try is a massive waste of time, you alienate your loyal fans in the search for pop groupies? fuck that. Artists should do what they feel, that's not selfish as 1. They never asked you be a fan and you don't run their carear and 2. it's their music, their right to express themselves however they feel. Doing shit that others want is how we get stuck with these shitty artists in the first place, thats how rap gets boring
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby J Roc » Dec 10th, '09, 18:11

What if .. someone WANTED to make pop shit? .... Are they selling out , or making music they really wanted to make? ..... Just cuz it's hip pop , or whutever u wanna call it ... doesn't mean NOBODY want's to make it. and that the only reason they do is cuz , they'd make money. Biggie Made club shit. Other shit too but... You know whut im saying. He's not a sell out. People shouldn't have to rap about their life, and make shit public for MILLIONS of people..If they don't want to. Especially if they WANT to go to a club and hear their song's. Just seem's like most people in this thread think that 100% of the time they sold out instead of making music they actually wanted to make. Who's make's good music, or not is based on oppiniun.

Also .. There's 'Dumbing it down' Like 50 Cent Did. Then There's 'Not having Talent'. I'm almost positive Bow wow, Soulja Boy, And People like that .. Aren't on Nas's Level When they TRY lol. Don't be mad at people for not being as good as other rapper's. IF they used to make good music, Be mad at them for that lol.
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Emadyville » Dec 10th, '09, 18:14

J roc wrote:I Wouldn't Like Dating Though ..... You can't tell when a girl's gonna marry u for fame, then divorce u for the money .. or if she really likes you.


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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Mr. Chambers » Dec 11th, '09, 06:51

money ain't shit...that all disappears sooner or later...then you used to it...and can't adjust.....

being true to your art will always be there....yea some ppl lose their touch...but you can still tell they're inspired and gifted......

but yea....i'd rather be known for my art then being rich with shitty art.......youknow?
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby emzee-frenzy » Dec 11th, '09, 07:31

Yo, those are not rappers man, those are R'n'B singers, damn it. And i just hate they're music, i don't give a shit about them, i don't even know how soulja boy even looks, heard him a couple of times, he sucks, end of story.
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Tornado » Dec 12th, '09, 22:06

Adam Quinn wrote:Fuck all that true Hip Hop bullshit, I gotta eat.


Wanna really get money from music, don't bother being an artist or dealing with Rap altogether.

Adam Quinn wrote: For those who don't understand that fact, it pretty much seals the deal that they will forever get looked over. Music has so much more to do with marketing now. And I fuckin hate underground music and underground artist they are so full of shit.


Why do hate Underground music? Do you really hate it or you angry for people saying that mainstream music is lacking and expressing their views? I can't talk for EVRY underground artist cos they are shit underground wannabe mainstream bitches out there but being more skilled and lyrical and making better songs don't necessarily mean you're full of shit, it depends on the artist, and being full of sit is a mainstream trend And music was never made for marketing i know, like i said, it's for expressing yourself. Music to people is marketing and image if you're tryna sell, without that your gonna sell fuck all.

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And Hip Hop is supposed to go mainstream these days that's the whole purpose.


NO Genre has a "purpose" to go mainstream, thats the indivdual's aim and Hip-Hop is probably the ONE genre that's supposed to be about real stuff, struggle.obvioulsy, it's evolved, but Hip-Hop is, in essence, reality we live in

Adam Quinn wrote:Are you gonna put food on my table and clothes on my back? Thought Not..


Get a Job you lazy fucker..If your music ain't good, i wont buy it, simple. Am i supposed to feel pity that you can't make enough money to live off rap? There's LOADS of people who manage to do rap in-between regular jobs. If you wanna go rich and weanna do poppy shit i refer you to point 1

Adam Quinn wrote:So who gives a fuck if somebody sells out. Sell out my ass, the only thing im "selling out" is arenas, GTFOH with that true hip hop shit.


Don't wanna appreciate real hip-hop, fine, go pop rappy get a one-hit wonder have one semi-memorable song, one crittically and commercially panned album, get dropped, lose buzz, receive no money cos you sell so low and try to go on a talent show in the vain hope that somebsimon cowell -esque tryant signs you or you can build up a rep awith a loyal fan base from the underground and receive more tha enough p's to live off. But fuck it, i look forward to the single when it comes out. I jst hope it's different from the rest to give you a fighting chance. Oh, wait..mainstream doesn't do different.I guess you're fucked then
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Tornado » Dec 12th, '09, 22:50

First thank you for paying so much attention to every single word I wrote, I'm glad and happy about your reactions. :D But you still got shit wrong.

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Okay, First underground artist ARE full shit because if someone offered them a major deal or a deal that involved lots of money they would take it. All that I don't wanna be mainstream bullshit is exaclty that... BULLSHIT. Second, I have a job fucker you are just to ignorant to understand what that meant. Why do you care if I go mainstream, it's rappers like you that hate on Drake, Cudi and Asher and artist like those because you're jealous that people actually like and listen to their music. In Em's words, "Don't be mad cuz you SUCK.
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When Did i say i hate Drake or Wayne? I hate the music, not the person.And not EVERYONE is looking for fame and money, yeah it'd be nice to get paid but fuck it, life ain't a fucking fairly tale.Oh , i have a job aswell so i do know what it means ;) Oh yeah, how do you know that i suck? You MAY actually like my music but haven't checked it. Stop assuming shit.

All that I can rhyme every line in a song ain’t worth shit and I can and do rhyme a multis. But you underground rappers who are so concerned with that bullshit lose the purpose of music by doing that. What is the point of rhyming every line in a verse so much that no one understand your MUSIC? It's supposed to be MUSIC, MUSIC!!! Not "Hey look at me I can rhyme but I can't make a good song for shit." My goal is to make HIT records. I'm all for skill in rap, and I practice that in my songs, but I never forget why I'm doing it in the first place, to make great MUSIC.


Skill and good music go hand in hand. I agree not every great song has a shit load of multis but making great music requires more than following trends

"I gotta eat" means once again IF I HAVE TO MAKE SONGS THAT RADIO WILL LIKE TO GET MY RECORD HEARD IN AMERICAN AND AROUND THE WORLD, I WILL CALL ME A SELL OUT WHILE I'M SELLING OUT STADIUMS! There I put it in BOLD and In all caps for you!!! And underlined it. That "real hip hop" you speak of won't get you anywhere if you aren't prepared to do that. Go back to that Jay line. "IF SKILLS SOLD truth be told, I'd prolly be lyrically Talib Kweli. Truthfully I wanted to rap like Common Sense but I did FIVE MILL I ain't been rapping like Common since! WHEN YOUR SENSE got that much in common, and you been hustlin since, your inceptions FUCK PERCEPTION got with what makes SENCE (CENTS)"


I can read btw,i dont need it in bold,if couldn't reads, you wouldntve responded to my post OF WHAT YOU SAID. see, screaming in bold is annoying for everyoneFine, sell out, neve said don't. And btw you didn't actually make a point with the Jay line. Tbh, sounds like a excuse but whatever i'm boring both of us....

Study that! Say I'm not hip hop, and I could murder you in a battle, I can do what you do and better I'm just not dumb enough to try to feed that bullshit to the public. My mission is to go mainstream, that's MY POINT. You can be "real" and stay underground and stay dead... underground.


If you're doing better than me, where's the proof? Radio/TV..I aint done that yet, thats your goal so until i see you on TV you aint done shit either. As for murdering me in a battle is that a challenge? I wouldn't mind audio back and forth if i can find a studio. Let's put your money where your mouth is. Oh i never speak the bullshit to the public the truth is hard to swallow bruv

I'm not mad btw cos i wasz bored, this back and forth is intresting....
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Tornado » Dec 12th, '09, 23:50

Fine with me then, i aint looking to start beef, not over people's opinions anyway on the internet. And i was just saying if you said you'll murder me in a battle, i wouldnt mind if it was a face-to face battle yaknow, acapella or beat. just sayin..
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Mr. Chambers » Dec 16th, '09, 22:04

Okay, First underground artist ARE full shit because if someone offered them a major deal or a deal that involved lots of money they would take it. All that I don't wanna be mainstream bullshit is exaclty that... BULLSHIT. Second, I have a job fucker you are just to ignorant to understand what that meant. Why do you care if I go mainstream, it's rappers like you that hate on Drake, Cudi and Asher and artist like those because you're jealous that people actually like and listen to their music. In Em's words, "Don't be mad cuz you SUCK."


not true......this is just one example...but copywrite turned down a contract with roc-a-fella....and i'm sure there are plenty more who turned it down

i haven't read all your posts all the way throughtbh.....but your a complete idiot.....i'd turn down a major contract in a heartbeat...i'm no good @ deadlines.....i don't like being boxed into a silly formula....and i don't even give a fuck about money....and if you look @ half the bigger rappers...most of them complain of their fame and being lonely....then the other rappers who are big...but dead broke don't actually have shit..but put on a front.....

that shit your reaching for is only great for an album or so....after that its annoying....
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby DƎRDYPK » Dec 17th, '09, 02:56

As long as I got a pen, a pad & a mic I'm happy :smoking:
I don't believe I would sell out :unsure:
or maybe.....I would :shocked2:
maybe I'll change my name to something corny & start making club jams :sweating:
nawwwwwwww.....I keep it Underground like a casket :rock:
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Mr. Chambers » Dec 17th, '09, 05:51

Adam Quinn wrote:
chambers wrote:not true......this is just one example...but copywrite turned down a contract with roc-a-fella....and i'm sure there are plenty more who turned it down

i haven't read all your posts all the way throughtbh.....but your a complete idiot.....i'd turn down a major contract in a heartbeat...i'm no good @ deadlines.....i don't like being boxed into a silly formula....and i don't even give a fuck about money....and if you look @ half the bigger rappers...most of them complain of their fame and being lonely....then the other rappers who are big...but dead broke don't actually have shit..but put on a front.....

that shit your reaching for is only great for an album or so....after that its annoying....


Well thankfully you won't have to worry about signing to a major label because you fuckin suck. You don't have to worry about getting signed at all because you fuckin suck. You won't get offered a million dollar contract because you fuckin suck and you won't ever get the chance to turn down Rockafella because you fuckin suck.

Did I mention that you fuckin suck? Have fun doing shows for eleven people at Karaoke night... and being a "real" rapper.

"I'm gonna turn down money and I don't wanna go mainsteam cause I'm true hip hop." Get the fuck outta here with that shit dumbass.

Oh and if you're trying to insult someone you should learn how to spell it first.

chambers wrote: but your a complete idiot

It's you're (You Are) dumbass. As in you're an idiot or you're a dumbass. You're welcome.



oh lordy...

1st off...i never claimed to be "good" enough to sign....i do this for a hobby my dude.....doing it for anything more is pointless.....

and i never said i'ma "true hip hop" rapper...i've done plenty of songs over pop beats and shit...i have FUN with my music....

you on the other hand...will never be shit...never get shit...never win shit....."why's that tom?"

becuz you just another run of the mill rapper......flow and delivery......"but tom doesn't that sound like the south's method..."...
why yes it does.....and the south has had so many hit or misses it's almost too funny to comment on....

so have fun with that 1 hit wonder your sure to receive...getting ASS raped by major labels and going so far in debt that your great grandchildren will still be paying for your broke ass...might as well cut out most of the steps and apply for that McDonald's position right now....

and please enjoy correcting my spelling becuz i'll fuck up on et mur jist two pis u of.......

YOU ARE forever going to be a broke mother fucker reaching for something you'll never get.....
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Mr. Chambers » Dec 17th, '09, 09:01

oh noooooooooooooo.....e-beef......

yes it is a hobby...i don't got time or patients to do shows...but let me guarantee you if i did actually get "serious"...i'd wipe your lloyd banks reject ass up like the worthless diarrhea stain on the floor that you are.....sad thing is...you "live" in the studio yet you only an average rapper...and i can say my quality is up to par with yours and i prolly got 4 times less money invested into this then you do lulz....you ppl make me laugh.....but i guess its true...what happens in vegas stays in vegas...and that speaks volumes for your "career"...

i don't give a fuck if you "show me what a real rapper is"....cuz chances are i'ma laugh cuz it just proves how emotional you get over other ppl's opinions and how much words affect you....but please show me what a real rapper is...i need a good laugh right now....
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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby macdaddy019967 » Dec 17th, '09, 09:18

Adam Quinn wrote:
chambers wrote:oh noooooooooooooo.....e-beef......

yes it is a hobby...i don't got time or patients to do shows...but let me guarantee you if i did actually get "serious"...i'd wipe your lloyd banks reject ass up like the worthless diarrhea stain on the floor that you are.....sad thing is...you "live" in the studio yet you only an average rapper...and i can say my quality is up to par with yours and i prolly got 4 times less money invested into this then you do lulz....you ppl make me laugh.....but i guess its true...what happens in vegas stays in vegas...and that speaks volumes for your "career"...

i don't give a fuck if you "show me what a real rapper is"....cuz chances are i'ma laugh cuz it just proves how emotional you get over other ppl's opinions and how much words affect you....but please show me what a real rapper is...i need a good laugh right now....


Looks like I got a fan :laughing: . I ain't say shit to you homie, I don't give a fuck about you or your life let alone your opinion. YOU came at me with that bullshit post, YOU hated on my opinion. I ain't start this shit but I can and will finish it so go fuck yourself. You WISH you could rap and be like me.

E-beef my ass, back away before you get your feelings hurt. AND you should go listen to more of my music, maybe you might learn something dumbass. If you need a good laugh right now like you say you should just look at your life, you suck at life and rap lmfao. Quit taking your moms estrogen pills, grow a pair, get a fuckin life and go find a flow. Mark ass motherfucker

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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby DƎRDYPK » Dec 17th, '09, 09:18

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Re: Big Question About Rapping ..

Postby Mr. Chambers » Dec 17th, '09, 09:24

Adam Quinn wrote:
chambers wrote:oh noooooooooooooo.....e-beef......

yes it is a hobby...i don't got time or patients to do shows...but let me guarantee you if i did actually get "serious"...i'd wipe your lloyd banks reject ass up like the worthless diarrhea stain on the floor that you are.....sad thing is...you "live" in the studio yet you only an average rapper...and i can say my quality is up to par with yours and i prolly got 4 times less money invested into this then you do lulz....you ppl make me laugh.....but i guess its true...what happens in vegas stays in vegas...and that speaks volumes for your "career"...

i don't give a fuck if you "show me what a real rapper is"....cuz chances are i'ma laugh cuz it just proves how emotional you get over other ppl's opinions and how much words affect you....but please show me what a real rapper is...i need a good laugh right now....


Looks like I got a fan :laughing: . I ain't say shit to you homie, I don't give a fuck about you or your life let alone your opinion. YOU came at me with that bullshit post, YOU hated on my opinion. I ain't start this shit but I can and will finish it so go fuck yourself. You WISH you could rap and be like me.

E-beef my ass, back away before you get your feelings hurt. AND you should go listen to more of my music, maybe you might learn something dumbass. If you need a good laugh right now like you say you should just look at your life, you suck at life and rap lmfao. Quit taking your moms estrogen pills, grow a pair, get a fuckin life and go find a flow. Mark ass motherfucker


word...i ain't got a life...yet your going to show me what a real rapper is....i said YOU'RE a complete idiot (which you are) because of your opinion...then you went off on a tyrant about how i suck and would never be signed...i disproved your point...and you went on to insult me..so save that innocent rule.....save that for your husband poptart...

as far as my life...you don't know me for no more then what...20 seconds......and you can tell me my life?...this coming from the rapper who's a lloyd banks throw away and spends all his time in the studio yet only average lol.....call me when your "insults" are above 5th grade level....diss me when you can actually make something that i feel will challenge me....i smell pussaAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY...now stop this childish bullshit and go about your life..
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