God doesn't exist

[EminemBase]

^ Lmao, you joined in November man. You're a virgin.

[classthe_king]

because there's no evidence for any god, no reason to believe in god and it's fundamentally illogical...

yeah, the idea that there was absolutely nothing in the universe and then in 1 billionth of a second out of an infinitely dense point the entire universe was formed makes more sense

[Arrinef]

^ Lmao, you joined in November man. You're a virgin.

yeah, homie
but im not riding the hate wagon, and getting everyone else to hate me.
your just setting yourself up for shit later down the road.

One thing thats different from me and you, is i respect.
So until you do, hit me back with a logical response.

[EminemBase]

but im not riding the hate wagon, and getting everyone else to hate me.
your just setting yourself up for shit later down the road.

Who the fuck hates me :S I'm not 'riding no hate wagon thanks'. I think if you go check my posts (apart from this thread) - You'll find all I've been getting is props dick head.

So hit me back when you know what you're talking about okay.

yeah, the idea that there was absolutely nothing in the universe and then in 1 billionth of a second out of an infinitely dense point the entire universe was formed makes more sense

Well I think you'll find the Big Bang is explained a lot better than that. With evidence to support it.

But of course the idea that a supernatural creator that was 'just there' magically poofed the Universe out of nowhere makes better sense?

Unlike you, the rest of us accept we don't have the answer yet, but that's okay. Doesn't mean we won't get it. And saying god did it, does NOTHING. You have to explain the creator. If you say 'he was just there' then why not the universe just there.

People used to think god created man but we proved that was not the case and we know how we got from bacteria to here. Fact. You've had your fingers burned once, what makes you think they won't be burned again.

It's this thing of... "Oh we don't know yet... So god did it" = No, that solves nothing. It just kicks the can back. Why not just accept we don't fully know yet. So fucking stupid. The god theory is the lamest attempt to explain the Universe ever invented.

[Arrinef]

but im not riding the hate wagon, and getting everyone else to hate me.
your just setting yourself up for shit later down the road.

Who the fuck hates me :S I'm not 'riding no hate wagon thanks'. I think if you go check my posts (apart from this thread) - You'll find all I've been getting is props dick head.

So hit me back when you know what you're talking about okay.

yeah, the idea that there was absolutely nothing in the universe and then in 1 billionth of a second out of an infinitely dense point the entire universe was formed makes more sense

Well I think you'll find the Big Bang is explained a lot better than that. With evidence to support it.

But of course the idea that a supernatural creator that was 'just there' magically poofed the Universe out of nowhere makes better sense?

Unlike you, the rest of us accept we don't have the answer yet, but that's okay. Doesn't mean we won't get it. And saying god did it, does NOTHING. You have to explain the creator. If you say 'he was just there' then why not the universe just there.

People used to think god created man but we proved that was not the case and we know how we got from bacteria to here. Fact. You've had your fingers burned once, what makes you think they won't be burned again.

It's this thing of... "Oh we don't know yet... So god did it" = No, that solves nothing. It just kicks the can back. Why not just accept we don't fully know yet. So fucking stupid. The god theory is the lamest attempt to explain the Universe ever invented.

Like i said man...

Respect

[Dark Blue]

well i think he does exist and whoever don't, don't be bitchin at me because i believe in god its just what i think, im not hating on no one for not believing in him so don't hate on me for thinkin he exist

[Arrinef]

well i think he does exist and whoever don't, don't be bitchin at me because i believe in god its just what i think, im not hating on no one for not believing in him so don't hate on me for thinkin he exist

exactly.
I couldnt have said it better myself

[classthe_king]

lol im not using the we don't know so god must have done it theory. I think the universe was created by some supernatural thing, that we call god. How did god get here, how the fuck do i know lol. The people that argue for the big bang theory i just say why can't god have caused the big bang theory. I don't look at science as a way of disproving religion, but finding out the methods of how god created the things.

What you said about we came from bacteria. Yeah i believe that, i don't believe that God just randomly created Adam and Eve and the world in seven days. I think that the seven days are just an extremely simplified version of the billions of years it took us to get here. If humans created bacteria, why can't god have created the bacteria and programmed them to eventually evolve into the now-a-day humans.

[EminemBase]

^^ Yeah but my point is man, saying god did anything does nothing. You still have to explain god, so you're just left with a bigger problem.

If you're willing to say how the fuck should I know about god why not that about the universe. Putting god there does nothing other than create a new problem.

ArrineF

Man give it a rest. I'm not 'hating' or disrespecting anybody.

It's called a debate. Me and this guy are having a debate man not going at each other's throats. We're having a sensible fucking debate.

You know... Given this IS a DEBATE section. Disagreeing with each other for the sake of futhering and deepening the discussion with the interest of reaching a conclusion basically defines DEBATE.

[classthe_king]

^^ Yeah but my point is man, saying god did anything does nothing. You still have to explain god, so you're just left with a bigger problem.

If you're willing to say how the fuck should I know about god why not that about the universe. Putting god there does nothing other than create a new problem.

ArrineF

Man give it a rest. I'm not 'hating' or disrespecting anybody.

It's called a debate. Me and this guy are having a debate man not going at each other's throats. We're having a sensible fucking debate.

You know... Given this IS a DEBATE section. Disagreeing with each other for the sake of futhering and deepening the discussion with the interest of reaching a conclusion basically defines DEBATE.

It does do something, lol it gives you faith in what comes after life. It gives people hope and a reason to be happy. Why go through life thinking ahhh shit, as soon as i die my mind will be lost and i will disapear from the world like i never even existed.

[Arrinef]

^^ Yeah but my point is man, saying god did anything does nothing. You still have to explain god, so you're just left with a bigger problem.

If you're willing to say how the fuck should I know about god why not that about the universe. Putting god there does nothing other than create a new problem.

ArrineF

Man give it a rest. I'm not 'hating' or disrespecting anybody.

It's called a debate. Me and this guy are having a debate man not going at each other's throats. We're having a sensible fucking debate.

You know... Given this IS a DEBATE section. Disagreeing with each other for the sake of futhering and deepening the discussion with the interest of reaching a conclusion basically defines DEBATE.

indeed, i never went against your belief on god. you got your beliefs, i got mine.
we on the same page.

Im not hating, your not hating. I was just talking about respect, no where in my post did i call you out. But it threw me off when you called me a dickhead.
Yeah im pretty new myself, but i didnt start off with any disrepectful shit, i never disrespect people in my posts. ya dig?
all in all, im not tryin to beef with you, or stray off topic(which we both have)
But i think respect is key.

[EminemBase]

It does do something, lol it gives you faith in what comes after life. It gives people hope and a reason to be happy. Why go through life thinking ahhh shit, as soon as i die my mind will be lost and i will disapear from the world like i never even existed.

Yeah that means you want to believe it. That doesn't make it true.

I only care about true. I'm incapable of believing something which I don't. So I can't just make myself believe something I consider totally ridiculous.

I'm glad it's not true. In no way would I want to believe there's a celestial dictator who watches my every move and reads my every thought. And that you have to be endlessly thankful to this god you have no idea even exists and then you can't even fucking die in peace, you then have to suck his cock eternally.

But on that subject, death, since you brought it up. I don't go through life thinking "ahh shit as soon as I die my mind will be lost and I will disaprear forever from the world like I never existed". I DO believe that's what will happen, as in, we die - that's it. But that doesn't mean I walk around thinking it.

Also that's all the more reason to enjoy this life. It's like people like... Muslims. Who spend about 60% of their life praying and 30% sleeping are fucking INSANE.

I consider this the only life so that's all the more reason to enjoy it. All the more reason to be ambitious. All the more reason to make something of yourself and make a mark so that you can rest assured when you die, certain people will know who you were and will revere your work.

My aim is self-satisfaction. But living your life to serve a figment of imagination that you have no logical reason to believe is true on the 0.0000001% there is an afterlife is utter madness. Enjoy this one. It's almost 100% more likely that THIS is the only life. So why not dedicate all your effort to loving this one and not yearning for another one?

The idea of god also shows the complete arrogance of the human species lmao. As if god created the entire universe just for our sake. There's 12 planets in our solar system, 11 of them are unable to inhibit life. Every one but Earth is too hot, too cold, too violent... You name it. Yeah, one hell of a designer. 11 dud planets, was he just mucking around or what.

Gets better than that though. That's just our solar system. Lets not forget the billions of other planets lmao, the lightyears of space, thousands of other species yet he creates it all... For us.

I mean it could be no other way than god being a man made invention lmao. Only a species as intelligent but arrogant and self-centered as humans could create and yearn for such a think. I'm actually quite happy that I don't have a jealous, petty dictator reading my every thought and judging my every action until I die. Sick stuff.

[Arrinef]

It does do something, lol it gives you faith in what comes after life. It gives people hope and a reason to be happy. Why go through life thinking ahhh shit, as soon as i die my mind will be lost and i will disapear from the world like i never even existed.

Yeah that means you want to believe it. That doesn't make it true.

I only care about true. I'm incapable of believing something which I don't. So I can't just make myself believe something I consider totally ridiculous.

I'm glad it's not true. In no way would I want to believe there's a celestial dictator who watches my every move and reads my every thought. And that you have to be endlessly thankful to this god you have no idea even exists and then you can't even fucking die in peace, you then have to suck his cock eternally.

But on that subject, death, since you brought it up. I don't go through life thinking "ahh shit as soon as I die my mind will be lost and I will disaprear forever from the world like I never existed". I DO believe that's what will happen, as in, we die - that's it. But that doesn't mean I walk around thinking it.

Also that's all the more reason to enjoy this life. It's like people like... Muslims. Who spend about 60% of their life praying and 30% sleeping are fucking INSANE.

I consider this the only life so that's all the more reason to enjoy it. All the more reason to be ambitious. All the more reason to make something of yourself and make a mark so that you can rest assured when you die, certain people will know who you were and will revere your work.

My aim is self-satisfaction. But living your life to serve a figment of imagination that you have no logical reason to believe is true on the 0.0000001% there is an afterlife is utter madness. Enjoy this one. It's almost 100% more likely that THIS is the only life. So why not dedicate all your effort to loving this one and not yearning for another one?

The idea of god also shows the complete arrogance of the human species lmao. As if god created the entire universe just for our sake. There's 12 planets in our solar system, 11 of them are unable to inhibit life. Every one but Earth is too hot, too cold, too violent... You name it. Yeah, one hell of a designer. 11 dud planets, was he just mucking around or what.

Gets better than that though. That's just our solar system. Lets not forget the billions of other planets lmao, the lightyears of space, thousands of other species yet he creates it all... For us.

I mean it could be no other way than god being a man made invention lmao. Only a species as intelligent but arrogant and self-centered as humans could create and yearn for such a think. I'm actually quite happy that I don't have a jealous, petty dictator reading my every thought and judging my every action until I die. Sick stuff.

word

but shit, if you ask me
i still think we're descendants of Donkey & Diddy kong

[Sophie]

Eminembase, if you had another account then yes you will get banned for making two accounts, talk to Sajn about it.

Also, don't say your opinion like it's fact. People have their believes, respect them for it as they will to you. Don't set yourself up for a rocky ride here, if you've been here for a year you'd know how to act on a forum right? Just because there isn't proof that he exists, doesn't mean there won't be in the future. I don't believe in God myself, but i like the idea of it, and respect the people that believe in God.

It's this thing of... "Oh we don't know yet... So god did it" = No, that solves nothing. It just kicks the can back. Why not just accept we don't fully know yet. So fucking stupid. The god theory is the lamest attempt to explain the Universe ever invented.

Yes, why don't you answer your own question? We DON'T FULLY KNOW YET, so don't doubt that there is a God.

[Pistolpoppin]

You shouldn't have to prove that something doesn't exist (therefore, just because you can't prove that somesthing doesn't exist, it does not mean that it does exist) i.e both outcomes are still possible

You should have to prove that something does exist (therefore, if you prove that something does exist, then you know that saying it doesn't exist cannot be ture) i.e only one outcome is possible

So trying to prove that god doesn't exist is pretty much pointless

Agreed?