God doesn't exist

[EminemBase]

god is fictional, like batman.

[Drama Setter]

god is fictional, like batman.

A true fiction imo

[EminemBase]

^ lmao well that doesn't make sense.

fiction is improvable and based on imagination. So you can't have true fiction. If it's fiction, it's false.

As is god.

In that same breath, whether you believe in a god or not, which god I don't know as there's been hundreds discarded throughout history (I assume you no longer believe in Thor?)... You have to admit that god... Any god is fiction. There is no proof for any god and it's illogical, therefore... Sure, you can choose to believe it but it's in no way real. It's based only on your own imagination.

[EminemBase]

^ Well yes I do actually.

I know god is fictional like I know batman is fictional.

there is no evidence for a real batman existing. There's no evidence for... Santa existing. And don't try and say god is any more serious than any of these characters of fiction, it's on the same par.

It's a concept character that has no evidence to support its existence = FICTION.

[EminemBase]

Ahh bro. There's nothing I can say. You got me. God doesn't exist............anyways, c'mon, you can't compare something like God, a being who has been involved in the lives of millions for thousands of years just like that. It's not that simple.

I guess if everyone thought as logical as you, then the existence, or belief of His existence would have been disproved YEARS ago, damn homie. There's a bit more evidence to support God's existence than that of Batman or Santa - like fulfilled prophecies and scriptures having been found hundreds of years after the Bible came out.

Firstly, yes you can compare god to... Santa. Why can't you. Just because the belief of god entails a more wishful fulfillment for YOU... Means nothing. It's still equally ridiculous, actually, more ridiculous and also has zero proof.

You then say 'like God' 'who has been' - There's two things wrong there. To start, which god? There have been thousands of gods created and discarded throughout the thousands of years we've invented them. I assume you no longer believe in Zues? So which god, the god of The Bible for you I assume? The Bible... Which version of The Bible may I ask... Perhaps the King James version. This book of junk has been re-written so many times it's not even worth mentioning. It's also been translated, badly.

Second thing wrong with that, you say "who has been involved" - No, there is no evidence of that. A more appropriate statement would be "who has been in people's heads". You can't definitely say something has been involved when we have no evidence of it even being here. So yes, is that simple.

As for fulfilled prophecies - There have been no recorded and proven miracles EVER. Get that, not one, in history. Not a single one. Any 'fulfilled prophecy' has come from yet more secondary accounts and myths that have been passed on and exaggerated, like the book of babble these things stem from - The Bible. Don't be thinking I'm just 'picking on Christians' as you've stated people do before though as all religions are equally stupid and destructive. I just so happen to be of brought up around that faith so it's the easiest point of reference.

You then say "scriptures being found hundreds of years after The Bible 'coming out'". What scriptures. Nobody knows when the The Bible was written and nobody knows who by. The authors of the books go by first name bases and aside from those, everything in it has been re-written time after time at random points in history by anonymous authors.

Finally, you say the existence OR belief of his existence would of been disproven by now. This makes no sense. Firstly, the existence of god has been as 'disproven' as it possibly could be. You can't technically disprove it but that's just because the claim itself is so huge and absurd. We can't disprove that there's a flying teapot orbiting space either but that doesn't mean it's likely or that we've just yet to prove it. It's as unlikely a claim as we could think up. As is god. The fact there has never been any proof FOR god, disproves it as much as we need to for now. It's up to YOU and those who make the claim to prove there is a god, not people who doubt you to prove you wrong.

"Hey dave I can fly"

"Really? Prove it?"

"Prove that I can't"

This argument is desperate and ridiculous. It doesn't work. As for disproving the belief in god... Lmao I don't know what you mean by that. The belief in god is clearly real... I don't know your point with that though. Are you trying to say because people believes in him that makes it more likely or real. Yes the belief is real but no the claim is not. People believe in god because they want to survive death and go see loved ones. Half of them... Actually, about 80% of them don't even know the disgusting, perverted nonsense written in their own 'holy books' they just pretend to accept it so they can 'go to heaven'.

You can guarantee that if belief in god offered no get out of jail free card at the end of it, all religions would lose about 99% of their members instantly, probably yourself included. We've believed hundreds of things throughout history that we've later discarded as babble only to then study as proof of our inherent idiocy and primate nature. Belief in god is one of those things, for most scholars, academics and people looking into our past anyway.

But of course many wishful people still want it to be true. Why you'd want a petty, egocentric, jealous, violent dictator watching you 24/7, punishing you for merely thinking things only to then judge you for all eternity I have no idea. Of course you don't take this into consideration though you simply accept this yokish "god is love" absurdity spew out by every middle-American trucker with a flag-woven cowboy hat. You just want to survive death.

Well good luck with that, unfortunately you won't but if you honestly get solace and hope out of such bronze-age, twisted untruth... I feel sorry for you. Humans have believed and tossed away hundreds if not thousands of gods throughout history, some of us just go one god less.

[BILI]

Ahh bro. There's nothing I can say. You got me. God doesn't exist............anyways, c'mon, you can't compare something like God, a being who has been involved in the lives of millions for thousands of years just like that. It's not that simple.

I guess if everyone thought as logical as you, then the existence, or belief of His existence would have been disproved YEARS ago, damn homie. There's a bit more evidence to support God's existence than that of Batman or Santa - like fulfilled prophecies and scriptures having been found hundreds of years after the Bible came out.

Firstly, yes you can compare god to... Santa. Why can't you. Just because the belief of god entails a more wishful fulfillment for YOU... Means nothing. It's still equally ridiculous, actually, more ridiculous and also has zero proof.

You then say 'like God' 'who has been' - There's two things wrong there. To start, which god? There have been thousands of gods created and discarded throughout the thousands of years we've invented them. I assume you no longer believe in Zues? So which god, the god of The Bible for you I assume? The Bible... Which version of The Bible may I ask... Perhaps the King James version. This book of junk has been re-written so many times it's not even worth mentioning. It's also been translated, badly.

Second thing wrong with that, you say "who has been involved" - No, there is no evidence of that. A more appropriate statement would be "who has been in people's heads". You can't definitely say something has been involved when we have no evidence of it even being here. So yes, is that simple.

As for fulfilled prophecies - There have been no recorded and proven miracles EVER. Get that, not one, in history. Not a single one. Any 'fulfilled prophecy' has come from yet more secondary accounts and myths that have been passed on and exaggerated, like the book of babble these things stem from - The Bible. Don't be thinking I'm just 'picking on Christians' as you've stated people do before though as all religions are equally stupid and destructive. I just so happen to be of brought up around that faith so it's the easiest point of reference.

You then say "scriptures being found hundreds of years after The Bible 'coming out'". What scriptures. Nobody knows when the The Bible was written and nobody knows who by. The authors of the books go by first name bases and aside from those, everything in it has been re-written time after time at random points in history by anonymous authors.

Finally, you say the existence OR belief of his existence would of been disproven by now. This makes no sense. Firstly, the existence of god has been as 'disproven' as it possibly could be. You can't technically disprove it but that's just because the claim itself is so huge and absurd. We can't disprove that there's a flying teapot orbiting space either but that doesn't mean it's likely or that we've just yet to prove it. It's as unlikely a claim as we could think up. As is god. The fact there has never been any proof FOR god, disproves it as much as we need to for now. It's up to YOU and those who make the claim to prove there is a god, not people who doubt you to prove you wrong.

"Hey dave I can fly"

"Really? Prove it?"

"Prove that I can't"

This argument is desperate and ridiculous. It doesn't work. As for disproving the belief in god... Lmao I don't know what you mean by that. The belief in god is clearly real... I don't know your point with that though. Are you trying to say because people believes in him that makes it more likely or real. Yes the belief is real but no the claim is not. People believe in god because they want to survive death and go see loved ones. Half of them... Actually, about 80% of them don't even know the disgusting, perverted nonsense written in their own 'holy books' they just pretend to accept it so they can 'go to heaven'.

You can guarantee that if belief in god offered no get out of jail free card at the end of it, all religions would lose about 99% of their members instantly, probably yourself included. We've believed hundreds of things throughout history that we've later discarded as babble only to then study as proof of our inherent idiocy and primate nature. Belief in god is one of those things, for most scholars, academics and people looking into our past anyway.

But of course many wishful people still want it to be true. Why you'd want a petty, egocentric, jealous, violent dictator watching you 24/7, punishing you for merely thinking things only to then judge you for all eternity I have no idea. Of course you don't take this into consideration though you simply accept this yokish "god is love" absurdity spew out by every middle-American trucker with a flag-woven cowboy hat. You just want to survive death.

Well good luck with that, unfortunately you won't but if you honestly get solace and hope out of such bronze-age, twisted untruth... I feel sorry for you. Humans have believed and tossed away hundreds if not thousands of gods throughout history, some of us just go one god less.

But we have proof that Jesus existed,we have written proof,he`s like any other historical people,then you can also say that Napoleon never existed,or any other guy from history,so thats why I think that God is more relevant then Santa or Batman

[EminemBase]

But we have proof that Jesus existed,we have written proof,he`s like any other historical people,then you can also say that Napoleon never existed,or any other guy from history,so thats why I think that God is more relevant then Santa or Batman

No we don't have any proof that a real man named Jesus existed. When scholars have used typical historical techniques used to try and determine the validity of a real historical figure, Jesus = Myth.

Reason Jesus is different to Napoleon or other accepted figures is due to cross-references, eye-witness accounts and real-life events that we can attribute. The only 'proof' of Jesus is secondary accounts from The Bible which has been re-written and translated hundreds of times throughout history by anonymous authors. Hardly reliable now isit.

No known author, philosopher, writer, politician or anybody from that time mentions Jesus. There's not one single confirmed document other than The Bible which mentions Jesus Christ and his impossible miracles. He was THAT influential yet nobody mentions him... Once? Speaks volumes. Not that proof of Jesus would mean proof of god anyway. I mean that would just be proof that there was a man named Jesus... That's it. But if we're getting technical, we don't even have that.

There is however great evidence to suggest Jesus was nothing more than one of hundreds of Pagan 'Sun gods' created around that time. Pagans used to invent human carnations of gods to represent the Sun, literally. They needed the Sun to live, to grow crops, to eat... So they saw the Sun as their saviour. They quite literally worshiped it. They loved and needed light. So when the Sun used to go down in the evening as is nature, mythology would dictate that their hero (the Sun) was going DOWN (hell) to fight the darkness (night, evil, the devil). And when the Sun would rise again, in the morning, they would say the Sun has come to save mankind. The SUN has risen to save mankind. And every night the Sun would fight the Darkness, hence Day vs. Night, Light vs. Darkness, Good vs. Evil, God vs. Devil. This isn't speculation by the way, we know this, it's all traceable and documented.

Jesus, shared identical traits with tons of other Pagan Sun gods (also the reason early Jesus imagery has SUN rays out of his head) but most namely, Horus. Horus is a known Pagan Sun god which is almost identical to Jesus in every sense other than imagery (Westerners re-shaped Horus' imagery to fit their culture - White man, blue eyes etc.). For example, Horus was born of a Virgin, visited by three Kings who brought him gifts etc. etc. This is true not just of Horus but of nearly every Sun god created and passed on throughout the World in those times. It's all connected to Egyptian mythology, we can even explain perfectly why Jesus, Horus, whoever - Is crucified for three days then rises again.

So all of this, we know. It also all makes perfect sense. So you have to now ask yourself two questions as you only have two options. Do you think it's more likely that Jesus was just another Pagan Sun god created by lowly civilizations to link a point of worship and explanation, as is apparent with hundreds of others. OR do you think it's more likely that there really was a man named Jesus who was one of the most influential figures of his time, not mentioned by anybody other than anonymous authors of a single book, who traveled and performed undocumented miracles and was the sun of an unproven god.

I know which one I plump for. Quite fascinating when you know the history of the myths but very scary when you consider wars are still being faught and people still dedicating their lives to this Pagan nonsense.

[BILI]

But we have proof that Jesus existed,we have written proof,he`s like any other historical people,then you can also say that Napoleon never existed,or any other guy from history,so thats why I think that God is more relevant then Santa or Batman

No we don't have any proof that a real man named Jesus existed. When scholars have used typical historical techniques used to try and determine the validity of a real historical figure, Jesus = Myth.

Reason Jesus is different to Napoleon or other accepted figures is due to cross-references, eye-witness accounts and real-life events that we can attribute. The only 'proof' of Jesus is secondary accounts from The Bible which has been re-written and translated hundreds of times throughout history by anonymous authors. Hardly reliable now isit.

No known author, philosopher, writer, politician or anybody from that time mentions Jesus. There's not one single confirmed document other than The Bible which mentions Jesus Christ and his impossible miracles. He was THAT influential yet nobody mentions him... Once? Speaks volumes. Not that proof of Jesus would mean proof of god anyway. I mean that would just be proof that there was a man named Jesus... That's it. But if we're getting technical, we don't even have that.

There is however great evidence to suggest Jesus was nothing more than one of hundreds of Pagan 'Sun gods' created around that time. Pagans used to invent human carnations of gods to represent the Sun, literally. They needed the Sun to live, to grow crops, to eat... So they saw the Sun as their saviour. They quite literally worshiped it. They loved and needed light. So when the Sun used to go down in the evening as is nature, mythology would dictate that their hero (the Sun) was going DOWN (hell) to fight the darkness (night, evil, the devil). And when the Sun would rise again, in the morning, they would say the Sun has come to save mankind. The SUN has risen to save mankind. And every night the Sun would fight the Darkness, hence Day vs. Night, Light vs. Darkness, Good vs. Evil, God vs. Devil. This isn't speculation by the way, we know this, it's all traceable and documented.

Jesus, shared identical traits with tons of other Pagan Sun gods (also the reason early Jesus imagery has SUN rays out of his head) but most namely, Horus. Horus is a known Pagan Sun god which is almost identical to Jesus in every sense other than imagery (Westerners re-shaped Horus' imagery to fit their culture - White man, blue eyes etc.). For example, Horus was born of a Virgin, visited by three Kings who brought him gifts etc. etc. This is true not just of Horus but of nearly every Sun god created and passed on throughout the World in those times. It's all connected to Egyptian mythology, we can even explain perfectly why Jesus, Horus, whoever - Is crucified for three days then rises again.

So all of this, we know. It also all makes perfect sense. So you have to now ask yourself two questions as you only have two options. Do you think it's more likely that Jesus was just another Pagan Sun god created by lowly civilizations to link a point of worship and explanation, as is apparent with hundreds of others. OR do you think it's more likely that there really was a man named Jesus who was one of the most influential figures of his time, not mentioned by anybody other than anonymous authors of a single book, who traveled and performed undocumented miracles and was the sun of an unproven god.

I know which one I plump for. Quite fascinating when you know the history of the myths but very scary when you consider wars are still being faught and people still dedicating their lives to this Pagan nonsense.

Good points,and logically I would choose the first option,but my because of my faith I cant choose,I jsut believe in God and thats it,no one can take that from me,even tho on the other hand,I dont live by his rules,so I`m certainly goin to hell(if there is one)cause for example I say fuck Jesus,or God 100 times a day,and I do all type of shit that are forbidden by my faith,but this hes nothin to do with this topic so Ima stop now.I hope you get my point

[ra1n]

But we have proof that Jesus existed,we have written proof,he`s like any other historical people,then you can also say that Napoleon never existed,or any other guy from history,so thats why I think that God is more relevant then Santa or Batman

No we don't have any proof that a real man named Jesus existed. When scholars have used typical historical techniques used to try and determine the validity of a real historical figure, Jesus = Myth.

Reason Jesus is different to Napoleon or other accepted figures is due to cross-references, eye-witness accounts and real-life events that we can attribute. The only 'proof' of Jesus is secondary accounts from The Bible which has been re-written and translated hundreds of times throughout history by anonymous authors. Hardly reliable now isit.

No known author, philosopher, writer, politician or anybody from that time mentions Jesus. There's not one single confirmed document other than The Bible which mentions Jesus Christ and his impossible miracles. He was THAT influential yet nobody mentions him... Once? Speaks volumes. Not that proof of Jesus would mean proof of god anyway. I mean that would just be proof that there was a man named Jesus... That's it. But if we're getting technical, we don't even have that.

There is however great evidence to suggest Jesus was nothing more than one of hundreds of Pagan 'Sun gods' created around that time. Pagans used to invent human carnations of gods to represent the Sun, literally. They needed the Sun to live, to grow crops, to eat... So they saw the Sun as their saviour. They quite literally worshiped it. They loved and needed light. So when the Sun used to go down in the evening as is nature, mythology would dictate that their hero (the Sun) was going DOWN (hell) to fight the darkness (night, evil, the devil). And when the Sun would rise again, in the morning, they would say the Sun has come to save mankind. The SUN has risen to save mankind. And every night the Sun would fight the Darkness, hence Day vs. Night, Light vs. Darkness, Good vs. Evil, God vs. Devil. This isn't speculation by the way, we know this, it's all traceable and documented.

Jesus, shared identical traits with tons of other Pagan Sun gods (also the reason early Jesus imagery has SUN rays out of his head) but most namely, Horus. Horus is a known Pagan Sun god which is almost identical to Jesus in every sense other than imagery (Westerners re-shaped Horus' imagery to fit their culture - White man, blue eyes etc.). For example, Horus was born of a Virgin, visited by three Kings who brought him gifts etc. etc. This is true not just of Horus but of nearly every Sun god created and passed on throughout the World in those times. It's all connected to Egyptian mythology, we can even explain perfectly why Jesus, Horus, whoever - Is crucified for three days then rises again.

So all of this, we know. It also all makes perfect sense. So you have to now ask yourself two questions as you only have two options. Do you think it's more likely that Jesus was just another Pagan Sun god created by lowly civilizations to link a point of worship and explanation, as is apparent with hundreds of others. OR do you think it's more likely that there really was a man named Jesus who was one of the most influential figures of his time, not mentioned by anybody other than anonymous authors of a single book, who traveled and performed undocumented miracles and was the sun of an unproven god.

I know which one I plump for. Quite fascinating when you know the history of the myths but very scary when you consider wars are still being faught and people still dedicating their lives to this Pagan nonsense.

Cornelius Tacitus
Roman historian and has been described as the greatest historian of Rome, noted for his integrity and moral uprightness.

Tacitus (c. 56–c. 117), writing c. 116, included in his Annals a mention of Christianity and "Christus", the Latinized Greek translation of the Hebrew word "Messiah". In describing Nero's persecution of this group following the Great Fire of Rome c. 64, he wrote:
Nero fastened the guilt of starting the blaze and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians [Chrestians] by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius 14-37 at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.

There have been suggestions that this was a Christian interpolation but the vast majority of scholars conclude that the passage was written by Tacitus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ

Tacitus was hostile to Christianity because in the same paragraph he describes Christus’ or Christ’s death, he describes Christianity as a pernicious superstition. It would have therefore been in his interests to declare that Jesus had never existed, but he did not, and perhaps he did not because he could not without betraying the historical record.

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more on the Historicity of Jesus;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

[emzee-frenzy]

Drunkendeath, you're a fucking idiot.
The evidence is that this world and this fucking universe are here. They didn't just appeared out of nowhere. How can you think that? I agree that the curch lies a lot and you don't need to believe it.
But a supreme being exists for sure and it's everywhere. Your own existance is evidence you ignorant motherfucker.

[Le Tunisien]

Have you ever seen a million bucks?Nope?So does that means they dont exist

props!

[Le Tunisien]

And I know beyond a reasonable doubt that there is at least one million dollars in this World otherwise it wouldn't be possible for it to run like it does. Economically. So one million bucks must exist.

and i know beyond for a reasonable doubt that there is a god for this world,otherwise it would be possible for it run like it does or be created this way,so god MUST exist

do you only believe in something onlyyyy if u see it?
do you fucking see the air that you breathe?no
but im pretty damn sure you believe that air exist

[gutawafang]

There is a God that made everything.

[Le Tunisien]

There is a God that made everything.

ok to all these people who doesnt believe in god,please never ever say again this expression:
"Oh my god" or "oh godddd" lol i hear it alot even from people who doesnt believe in god
OMG

[Dark Blue]

There is a God that made everything.

ok to all these people who doesnt believe in god,please never ever say again this expression:
"Oh my god" or "oh godddd" lol i hear it alot even from people who doesnt believe in god
OMG

true dat