What's The Defining Moment Of This Decade?

[Edge]

bush did fine his first term and the first 1-2 years in his second term...he did a good job with handling the aftermath of 9/11... 9/11 wasnt bush's fault... he was in office for a couple of months when it happened... there wasnt shit he could do about it... that was clintons fault for not worrying about terorism enough... and its not like obama is doing a great job either... hes going to raise taxes in order to gain the support of the poor people and hes going to give the poor a lot of benefits... im middle class and its going to hurt the middle class the most... im neither republician or democrat but i feel that bush is overly criticized because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time (global ression and 9/11)

Are you serious. He did a good job with the aftermath of 9/11? Well firstly, his fucking Administration had something to do with 9/11. Secondly, the handling of the aftermath was one of the worst handlings of any crime in modern history.

His Admin had 99% of the steel from all three towers shipped off IMMEDIATELY to be melted down. It's common practice in any building collapse to take the debri and have it forensically checked for explosives. So I guess you don't find that odd that for the first time in history, in this case, he immediately had it taken to be melted down and re-built. Ignoring the need to check the steel.

There was some steel left however that was independently checked (as well as the dust) by numerous scientists that got published in peer-reviewed papers. And what did they find? Nano-thermite. An explosive used by the US military. Lets also consider the fact that the scandelous commission headed to investigate 9/11 was a newly appointed commission called the '9/11 Commission'. What was particularly odd was that this board was made up almost entirely of people Bush had connections with as apposed to independent, respected scientists and crime investigators. Unless you were trying to hide something why would you build a new commission comprised of people you either knew personally or had business connections with to head the operation.

They were also given spec-of-dust funding to 'find out' the cause of the collapses. The original head stepped down and called it a national scandal. He said they were 'set up to fail' by the fact they were given a tiny timeslot, tiny amount of money and were refused eye-witness accounts and testimonies. I wonder why. Maybe because nearly every eye-witness (documented) reported sounds of explosions, even survivors, people who came out of the building - Reported explosions lower down in the building before the plane hit. People were thrown against walls.

But I don't blame Bush for this. I blame his advisors and the shadow government. A former top Bush advisor said in meetings he rarely had anything to contribute or say and was almost bewildered most of the time. The guy is a moron and no clue what he was doing. No question one of the worst presidents in history. And I'm not even American so I care less but after 9/11, it's pissed me off no end.

The 9/11 commission had to re-write their official report numerous times due to industry experts disputing their half-baked cover-ups and fucking nonsense. In the final report they have even put... Admitted, that they don't know how WTC 7 collapsed. This building by the way wasn't hit by a plane and was a football yard away from the Towers.

Planes alone couldn't of brought the towers down either but the original suggestion that 'flying debri' weakened the entire structure of WTC 7 and that's what caused the collapsed was rightfully ousted and lauded as soon as made. Total fucking babble. This building fell in 6.5 seconds. Free-fall speed. All collums failing instaniously and simoultaneously. Something that only ever happens in controlled demolitions as the explosions are TIMED so that this happens. This cannot happen by chance and it can't happen when a building gets damaged on random sides. WTC 7 wasn't even damaged, it had a few oxygen-starved office fires. Impossible that these caused every re-inforced steel collum to fail at the exact same time.

Also, even if that did happen by some miracle, it's another, seperate miracle that the building fell at free-fall speed. Not just speed but acceleration, they sped up. This, again, does not happen in normal collapses as when a building collapses normally - It meets resistance. Obviously, it's falling into the path of greatest resistance so for it to meet NONE is impossible. This only ever happens, again, in demolitions as the floors are being blown out AS it's falling, this is what totally diminishes nearly every second of resistance to allow the building to collapse in on itself at free-fall acceleration. Symetrically, into its own footprint. So that it damages no structure surrounding it.

You're then left with a huge pile of dust and rubble. Which is exactly what we see with every building on 9/11. No building in history has ever collapsed from fire damage. And buildings have burned for days on end. And if they do eventually topple - They do just that. Fires gradually weaken steel and parts can toppple. But then you're left with abuilding still holding it's main structure, the floors still in tact and you have black, distorted steel.

We see none of this on 9/11. Instead, with the steel colums of all three - They're not black, distorted or twisted, as you'd expect if it was just fire that had melted them to the point of collapse (which couldn't happen since fire doesn't get hot enough to melt steel). What they found was steel colums that were still solid, but 'sliced'. Exactly what you'd expect if nano-thermite (which was found in the steel and dust of all three) was used to demolish them. Since nano-thermite, unlike most explosives, isn't as noisy and doesn't produce big flashes. It cuts THROUGH steel. So if you put some thermite on a steel collum, it would slice through it and you'd be left with a solid beam cut in half. Precisely what was found. They also found molten-iron. The by-product of thermite. Impossible for molten iron to be created by fire. Doesn't even come close to getting hot enough.

So the collapses themselves defied physics and the findings defy chemistry. His scandal of a commission did a shit job handling the investigation, no surprise as they were set up, to cover-up.

But thankfully Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth are making great headway now. Even in Washington. New investigation on it's way. Don't forget Bush and Cheney both refused to testify under oath about 9/11 by the way. The scumbags will have with new subpeona power though.

to b honest... i stopped reading after the bolded part bc u dont know ur shit bushes administration didnt have anything to do with it. u just believe what the liberal media tells u... and he didnt have the steel shipped right away bc they went through it at the staten island landfill which was closed up years b4 9/11, and dont say thats right bc i live in staten island where they did it

[EminemBase]

I knew you would stop reading. There are of course intelligent people who think for themselves though and will read on, so I wrote it all for those people.

No I don't believe what any media tells me. I look into things myself, it's quite clear you believe what all media tells you that's why you can't have anything threaten your deluded picturesque view of things.

You also pointed out probably the most insignifgant fact of the entire post. Obviously evading the real points. It wouldn't matter if they didn't ship the steel off (which they did). That doesn't matter anyway though.

Can you please explain the nano-thermite in the dust. Actually, that's the prints on the gun, lets also pretend that's totally fabricated too then shall we.

Lets look at what we know as stone fact which neither of us can dispute. How about the buildings falling symetrically into their own footprint at free-fall speed? You can't explain this with the official account, it defies physics. So fuck opinions, try science dick head.

[dR3]

Are you serious. He did a good job with the aftermath of 9/11? Well firstly, his fucking Administration had something to do with 9/11. Secondly, the handling of the aftermath was one of the worst handlings of any crime in modern history.

His Admin had 99% of the steel from all three towers shipped off IMMEDIATELY to be melted down. It's common practice in any building collapse to take the debri and have it forensically checked for explosives. So I guess you don't find that odd that for the first time in history, in this case, he immediately had it taken to be melted down and re-built. Ignoring the need to check the steel.

There was some steel left however that was independently checked (as well as the dust) by numerous scientists that got published in peer-reviewed papers. And what did they find? Nano-thermite. An explosive used by the US military. Lets also consider the fact that the scandelous commission headed to investigate 9/11 was a newly appointed commission called the '9/11 Commission'. What was particularly odd was that this board was made up almost entirely of people Bush had connections with as apposed to independent, respected scientists and crime investigators. Unless you were trying to hide something why would you build a new commission comprised of people you either knew personally or had business connections with to head the operation.

They were also given spec-of-dust funding to 'find out' the cause of the collapses. The original head stepped down and called it a national scandal. He said they were 'set up to fail' by the fact they were given a tiny timeslot, tiny amount of money and were refused eye-witness accounts and testimonies. I wonder why. Maybe because nearly every eye-witness (documented) reported sounds of explosions, even survivors, people who came out of the building - Reported explosions lower down in the building before the plane hit. People were thrown against walls.

But I don't blame Bush for this. I blame his advisors and the shadow government. A former top Bush advisor said in meetings he rarely had anything to contribute or say and was almost bewildered most of the time. The guy is a moron and no clue what he was doing. No question one of the worst presidents in history. And I'm not even American so I care less but after 9/11, it's pissed me off no end.

The 9/11 commission had to re-write their official report numerous times due to industry experts disputing their half-baked cover-ups and fucking nonsense. In the final report they have even put... Admitted, that they don't know how WTC 7 collapsed. This building by the way wasn't hit by a plane and was a football yard away from the Towers.

Planes alone couldn't of brought the towers down either but the original suggestion that 'flying debri' weakened the entire structure of WTC 7 and that's what caused the collapsed was rightfully ousted and lauded as soon as made. Total fucking babble. This building fell in 6.5 seconds. Free-fall speed. All collums failing instaniously and simoultaneously. Something that only ever happens in controlled demolitions as the explosions are TIMED so that this happens. This cannot happen by chance and it can't happen when a building gets damaged on random sides. WTC 7 wasn't even damaged, it had a few oxygen-starved office fires. Impossible that these caused every re-inforced steel collum to fail at the exact same time.

Also, even if that did happen by some miracle, it's another, seperate miracle that the building fell at free-fall speed. Not just speed but acceleration, they sped up. This, again, does not happen in normal collapses as when a building collapses normally - It meets resistance. Obviously, it's falling into the path of greatest resistance so for it to meet NONE is impossible. This only ever happens, again, in demolitions as the floors are being blown out AS it's falling, this is what totally diminishes nearly every second of resistance to allow the building to collapse in on itself at free-fall acceleration. Symetrically, into its own footprint. So that it damages no structure surrounding it.

You're then left with a huge pile of dust and rubble. Which is exactly what we see with every building on 9/11. No building in history has ever collapsed from fire damage. And buildings have burned for days on end. And if they do eventually topple - They do just that. Fires gradually weaken steel and parts can toppple. But then you're left with abuilding still holding it's main structure, the floors still in tact and you have black, distorted steel.

We see none of this on 9/11. Instead, with the steel colums of all three - They're not black, distorted or twisted, as you'd expect if it was just fire that had melted them to the point of collapse (which couldn't happen since fire doesn't get hot enough to melt steel). What they found was steel colums that were still solid, but 'sliced'. Exactly what you'd expect if nano-thermite (which was found in the steel and dust of all three) was used to demolish them. Since nano-thermite, unlike most explosives, isn't as noisy and doesn't produce big flashes. It cuts THROUGH steel. So if you put some thermite on a steel collum, it would slice through it and you'd be left with a solid beam cut in half. Precisely what was found. They also found molten-iron. The by-product of thermite. Impossible for molten iron to be created by fire. Doesn't even come close to getting hot enough.

So the collapses themselves defied physics and the findings defy chemistry. His scandal of a commission did a shit job handling the investigation, no surprise as they were set up, to cover-up.

But thankfully Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth are making great headway now. Even in Washington. New investigation on it's way. Don't forget Bush and Cheney both refused to testify under oath about 9/11 by the way. The scumbags will have with new subpeona power though.

Damn, thanks for spreading my knowledge, you are one hell of a debater.

[Edge]

Are you serious. He did a good job with the aftermath of 9/11? Well firstly, his fucking Administration had something to do with 9/11. Secondly, the handling of the aftermath was one of the worst handlings of any crime in modern history.

His Admin had 99% of the steel from all three towers shipped off IMMEDIATELY to be melted down. It's common practice in any building collapse to take the debri and have it forensically checked for explosives. So I guess you don't find that odd that for the first time in history, in this case, he immediately had it taken to be melted down and re-built. Ignoring the need to check the steel.

There was some steel left however that was independently checked (as well as the dust) by numerous scientists that got published in peer-reviewed papers. And what did they find? Nano-thermite. An explosive used by the US military. Lets also consider the fact that the scandelous commission headed to investigate 9/11 was a newly appointed commission called the '9/11 Commission'. What was particularly odd was that this board was made up almost entirely of people Bush had connections with as apposed to independent, respected scientists and crime investigators. Unless you were trying to hide something why would you build a new commission comprised of people you either knew personally or had business connections with to head the operation.

They were also given spec-of-dust funding to 'find out' the cause of the collapses. The original head stepped down and called it a national scandal. He said they were 'set up to fail' by the fact they were given a tiny timeslot, tiny amount of money and were refused eye-witness accounts and testimonies. I wonder why. Maybe because nearly every eye-witness (documented) reported sounds of explosions, even survivors, people who came out of the building - Reported explosions lower down in the building before the plane hit. People were thrown against walls.

But I don't blame Bush for this. I blame his advisors and the shadow government. A former top Bush advisor said in meetings he rarely had anything to contribute or say and was almost bewildered most of the time. The guy is a moron and no clue what he was doing. No question one of the worst presidents in history. And I'm not even American so I care less but after 9/11, it's pissed me off no end.

The 9/11 commission had to re-write their official report numerous times due to industry experts disputing their half-baked cover-ups and fucking nonsense. In the final report they have even put... Admitted, that they don't know how WTC 7 collapsed. This building by the way wasn't hit by a plane and was a football yard away from the Towers.

Planes alone couldn't of brought the towers down either but the original suggestion that 'flying debri' weakened the entire structure of WTC 7 and that's what caused the collapsed was rightfully ousted and lauded as soon as made. Total fucking babble. This building fell in 6.5 seconds. Free-fall speed. All collums failing instaniously and simoultaneously. Something that only ever happens in controlled demolitions as the explosions are TIMED so that this happens. This cannot happen by chance and it can't happen when a building gets damaged on random sides. WTC 7 wasn't even damaged, it had a few oxygen-starved office fires. Impossible that these caused every re-inforced steel collum to fail at the exact same time.

Also, even if that did happen by some miracle, it's another, seperate miracle that the building fell at free-fall speed. Not just speed but acceleration, they sped up. This, again, does not happen in normal collapses as when a building collapses normally - It meets resistance. Obviously, it's falling into the path of greatest resistance so for it to meet NONE is impossible. This only ever happens, again, in demolitions as the floors are being blown out AS it's falling, this is what totally diminishes nearly every second of resistance to allow the building to collapse in on itself at free-fall acceleration. Symetrically, into its own footprint. So that it damages no structure surrounding it.

You're then left with a huge pile of dust and rubble. Which is exactly what we see with every building on 9/11. No building in history has ever collapsed from fire damage. And buildings have burned for days on end. And if they do eventually topple - They do just that. Fires gradually weaken steel and parts can toppple. But then you're left with abuilding still holding it's main structure, the floors still in tact and you have black, distorted steel.

We see none of this on 9/11. Instead, with the steel colums of all three - They're not black, distorted or twisted, as you'd expect if it was just fire that had melted them to the point of collapse (which couldn't happen since fire doesn't get hot enough to melt steel). What they found was steel colums that were still solid, but 'sliced'. Exactly what you'd expect if nano-thermite (which was found in the steel and dust of all three) was used to demolish them. Since nano-thermite, unlike most explosives, isn't as noisy and doesn't produce big flashes. It cuts THROUGH steel. So if you put some thermite on a steel collum, it would slice through it and you'd be left with a solid beam cut in half. Precisely what was found. They also found molten-iron. The by-product of thermite. Impossible for molten iron to be created by fire. Doesn't even come close to getting hot enough.

So the collapses themselves defied physics and the findings defy chemistry. His scandal of a commission did a shit job handling the investigation, no surprise as they were set up, to cover-up.

But thankfully Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth are making great headway now. Even in Washington. New investigation on it's way. Don't forget Bush and Cheney both refused to testify under oath about 9/11 by the way. The scumbags will have with new subpeona power though.

Damn, thanks for spreading my knowledge, you are one hell of a debater.

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