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God doesn't exist

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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby mcZu » Dec 31st, '09, 18:59

Similar symbols do not equal in plagiarism, you could deduce all kinds of aspects from the knowledge you have right now. Which means that the concept of these modern religions have set a base line for people to try to find similar traits in myths and other religions. Which means we're biased towards certain things, which on term means that the things we observe immidiately fall under the same catogory as that baseline.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby SajN » Dec 31st, '09, 19:01

OK, THIS IS AN INTERESTING DEBATE, BUT IF I SEE MORE NAMECALLINGS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PERSON AND NOT ABOUT THE TOPIC I AM GOING TO WARN THAT GUY!!
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby Xray » Dec 31st, '09, 19:03

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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby EminemBase » Dec 31st, '09, 19:29

mcZu wrote:Similar symbols do not equal in plagiarism, you could deduce all kinds of aspects from the knowledge you have right now. Which means that the concept of these modern religions have set a base line for people to try to find similar traits in myths and other religions. Which means we're biased towards certain things, which on term means that the things we observe immidiately fall under the same catogory as that baseline.


It's not 'similar' symbols.

The EXACT same traits in Christianity - Virgin birth on 25th December, dead on cross for three days, rise are totally and 100% traceable in astrology.

These are not mild similarities. These are absolutely obvious plagerisms... Or actually, probably not even that, they're re-interpretations in human tales of these star-bred myths.

Which is why it's bizarre to take any of it as fact or truth of ANYTHING in this day and age. Even back then. But at least they hardly knew anything back then.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby EminemBase » Dec 31st, '09, 19:49

But whatever.

If you find any of that stuff at all convincing or satisfying as answers for... Anything. That's up to you.

I'm out of this thread for real now. God debates are circular and ever-repeating.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby AbramIsaac » Dec 31st, '09, 21:00

EminemBase wrote:God debates are circular and ever-repeating.

That.

Interesting debate for sure, but not one that will lead to many concessions from either side.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby Solace » Dec 31st, '09, 23:14

EminemBase wrote:The EXACT same traits in Christianity - Virgin birth on 25th December, dead on cross for three days, rise are totally and 100% traceable in astrology.

You're not implying that Jesus was born on 12/25 are you?
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Jan 1st, '10, 14:00

Solace wrote:
EminemBase wrote:The EXACT same traits in Christianity - Virgin birth on 25th December, dead on cross for three days, rise are totally and 100% traceable in astrology.

You're not implying that Jesus was born on 12/25 are you?

You're right, Jesus was not born on the 25th of December.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby EminemBase » Jan 1st, '10, 14:32

^I know, he wasn't born at all. He's a myth. Bye.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby Sophie » Jan 1st, '10, 17:10

EminemBase wrote:^I know, he wasn't born at all. He's a myth. Bye.

The man Jesus is actually real, whether or not he perfomed all the miracles and other things however is another story.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby Solace » Jan 1st, '10, 17:41

Sophie wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^I know, he wasn't born at all. He's a myth. Bye.

The man Jesus is actually real, whether or not he perfomed all the miracles and other things however is another story.

That.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby Elision » Jan 1st, '10, 17:59

Sophie wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^I know, he wasn't born at all. He's a myth. Bye.

The man Jesus is actually real, whether or not he perfomed all the miracles and other things however is another story.



Please read this thoroughly.

http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/christi ... jesus.html

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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby Bistnal » Jan 4th, '10, 06:17

I believe in God (Muslim) and I respect (but disagree) with Atheist beliefs. But one thing I've found from discussing religion with them is they are extremely disrespectful. They don't seem to have a respect for other people's differing opinions on this subject. It seems like no matter how "good" their argument is they have this need to insult and mock religious people who believe in God. If you were good at debating and confident, then why would you need to insult and degrade the person you're debating with? Can't you just have a friendly, intellectually stimulating debate without name calling? This is why I don't really debate anymore because it always ends in name calling and atheists calling religious people morons and blind and stupid. It infuriates me, it's like they feel they're on a pedestal and superior to people who believe in God.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby Elision » Jan 4th, '10, 07:13

Bistnal wrote:I believe in God (Muslim) and I respect (but disagree) with Atheist beliefs. But one thing I've found from discussing religion with them is they are extremely disrespectful. They don't seem to have a respect for other people's differing opinions on this subject. It seems like no matter how "good" their argument is they have this need to insult and mock religious people who believe in God. If you were good at debating and confident, then why would you need to insult and degrade the person you're debating with? Can't you just have a friendly, intellectually stimulating debate without name calling? This is why I don't really debate anymore because it always ends in name calling and atheists calling religious people morons and blind and stupid. It infuriates me, it's like they feel they're on a pedestal and superior to people who believe in God.
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Think about it this way.

Would you have respect for someone who was trying to convince you that they truly believed in the tooth faerie? And based their entire life off of that belief.
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Re: God doesn't exist

Postby RapName » Jan 4th, '10, 09:10

Bistnal wrote:Can't you just have a intellectually debate without name calling?

That's not easy when you're debating with a religious person... :p
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